thaibeachlovers

13 minutes ago, Leaver said:

The best defense we have at the moment is to not become a host.  

and how do you propose that we do that? Unless rich enough to get other people to go to the supermarket, we do and that is the place I will get it, if I do. I don't have a choice, and I'm not that stressed about it anyway. What happens happens, and if not that, a heart attack ( probably brought about from being in lockdown ) or a stroke. There's no way to avoid the grim reaper. He takes all of us sooner or later. What counts is what we did with our lives, not how long we live.

15 minutes ago, CGW said:

Should we accredit that to the fine leadership they have been getting over the years?

No, the ordinary Thais have been ruining the beaches for decades without any help from the government.

28 minutes ago, Leaver said:

How about trying not to become a host for the virus in the first place.

 

Prevention is great, particularly when there is no cure.  ????

I don't venture out much anyway, but even I have to eat, so must go to the supermarket. There is no way to not get it if an infected person spreads droplets on me unless wearing hazmat suit and they ain't handing them out at the moment.

20 minutes ago, Leaver said:

Your location.

 

Registered sim card. 

 

Name, DOB, address, ID card / Passport number, that means a photo also, and for expats, that now means fingerprints. 

 

But you call or text a friend on a smart phone, now they have them, and through them, can get your email, Facebook etc.

 

Maybe that call or text arranged a meeting.  Now they can listen in by turning on your friend's smart phone microphone during the meeting.

 

Great, but your withdrawals are recorded, along with CCTV of you withdrawing, fingerprints on the slip, and your signature for handwriting analysis, as well as DNA on the paper.

 

The above is just the start.  There's more. 

 

And all of this, and more, from a call or a text, from a "dumb phone."  ????

 

 

I certainly don't use the spy service of facebook on anything.

They can read my e mails if they want, but very boring.

Don't do meetings now I'm retired.

Don't use ATMs. The bank knows so the government knows, but as long as I can use cash they don't know everything I buy.

There are several billion electronic messages every day, So long as they have no reason to want to track me they will not be flagging up my few contributions. Even my posts on here will probably go unseen by human eyes in the security services of the world.

2 minutes ago, Leaver said:

No. 

 

However, we are in Thailand. 

 

Wrong.

 

Do you think they have just put the young dead 6ft under, or burnt them?  There is much we need to learn from their death.  Full autopsies.  Full medical history. 

 

We need to find out how this virus chooses its victims. 

True.

 

Young, super fit football professionals have dropped dead on the pitch.   It happens, but it doesn't happen to their team mate, just because they were in close contact with them.  

I'm saying wait till the autopsies are done before pronouncing that it attacks people with no underlying health problems as has been happening on here.

By all means stop team sports. I have zero problem with that.

On 4/2/2020 at 1:43 AM, drbeach said:

at least 1/4 of all the world's hotels will go out of business permanently.

If that's every hotel with "boutique" in it's name I for one shall rejoice. Too many Pattaya dives have tarted themselves up and put their prices up substantially without doing anything to improve their service.

I used to stay a lot at one 6 story hotel with no lift when it was 600 baht a night, but when they upped the price to 900 and still no lift that was it for me.

17 hours ago, RJRS1301 said:

Another person in UK under 20 dead without any underlying heath problems. 

You can't say that unless an autopsy found nothing. If it is true, it becomes a whole new ball game.

16 hours ago, jacko45k said:

That doesn't make any sense whatsoever in relation to the post you quoted. It can obviously be turned around to say older people are more likely to have these underlying health problems. 

Of course older people are more likely to have underlying health problems which is why it is mainly old people dying.

8 hours ago, Leaver said:

no apparent underlying health conditions

No apparent are the relevant words. Wait till after the autopsy.

On 4/4/2020 at 2:19 AM, Leaver said:

With Covid-19, age IS the underlying health problem. 

Are you saying every person over 65 is going to die of Corona?. It's actually all about underlying health problems and immune systems.

Till the younger dead people are investigated no one can say they didn't have underlying health problems. School boys have dropped dead of diagnosed health problems.

2 minutes ago, Leaver said:

You jest.

 

The world's largest democracy.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/nov/08/india-withdraws-500-1000-rupee-notes-fight-corruption

 

Entirely possible in western countries.  Just a matter of time.

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3437590/Banks-urged-ban-50-notes-bid-end-cash-hand-culture-help-recoup-billions-tax-Treasury.html

 

 

Of course the governments want to create the cashless society as it will give them total control over us. Our job is to make it as hard as possible to do so.

Do you want to be 100% in the power of faceless bureaucrats like in China?

Perhaps they'll just go full on and have a device implanted in us that explodes if we do something they don't like. I'm sure some bureaucrats have wet dreams about having that sort of power.

8 minutes ago, Leaver said:

I guess it all depends on who, and who's family and friends, are part of the "few." 

If I get it I'll be one of the "few" for sure. If I do I'm sure I won't be happy to suffocate to death, but it'll beat dying slowly with cancer.

3 minutes ago, Leaver said:

Google "Multidrug Resistant Bacteria"  for how microbes are one step ahead of us.

As a nurse I was entirely familiar with drug resistant bacteria- I don't need to google it.

Entirely caused by humans when they overused it, and didn't complete the course etc.

Some of us believe that Gaia is going to reduce the population and this virus may be the means, or if not this one, the one after or the one after that. That'll serve us for being terrible inhabitants of the planet and destroying it.

On 4/3/2020 at 3:04 PM, Gweiloman said:

And the sex scene for locals do not cater to the farang sexpats going to Pattaya.

LOL. Do you actually know much about it? Several places that are predominately for Thais, but cater for  farangs as well.

As long as one can pay, money is colour blind.

18 hours ago, Melbun said:

Yep, and unless you disguise yourself - facial recognition is being extensively used. Mongers are nothing compared to the perverted governments prying into peoples lives. And can you imaging if cash was eliminated. How do you secretly carry out ahem 'transactions of the heart' ??

I do pity people in the future. Big Brother is here and one doesn't have to stand in front of the bathroom  mirror. It's going to be so bad I won't be sorry to die.

3 hours ago, Leaver said:

What happens when they recall all of it, and stop printing it?  ????

What happens when the internet goes down and your paywave etc won't work?

On 4/4/2020 at 2:33 AM, Leaver said:

Even if you do not own a smart phone, they still know which tower your "dumb phone" is connected to.

 

If you want to go off the grid, give up ALL technology, including your ATM card. 

I do know that they can track me through the towers, but they don't know anything about me like they would if I was on a smart phone and used it for everything like people do.

I don't use ATMs and only use cash.

It's a bit of a bother now because the pharmacy only uses EFPOS, but I should not need to buy anything from them and the supermarket is taking real money.

I wonder what the AI that is reading all our chattering on TVF makes of me? Hopefully it's confused. It knows where I am because it sells the information to advertisers and some have where I live on them, but I will never click on them, so they wasted their money.

On 4/4/2020 at 1:04 AM, Youlike said:

This is the perfect time to totally bulldozer Pattaya to the ground, build new drains and electric/water/gas underground and then start building a new city...wide roads with busstops, skytrain, clean great beaches with a shaded boulevard....palmtree's everywhere, benches everywhere, high class resorts, new wide sidewalks....and so on.

 

But it will never happen...it will always be a filthy mess.

No law against dreaming.

My dream is that they bulldoze all the malls except Royal Garden and build lots of barbeers where they used to be, and the hotels can't charge more than 300 a night and the BGs only charge 500 a night. Ah, Pattaya was the cheese back in the 90s.

On 4/4/2020 at 12:09 AM, Leaver said:

Can you define, "a few lives?" 

Compared to 7 billion + even a million is a "few". Will it even reach the numbers that died during the Spanish flue and the world population was probably a quarter of now back then?

1 hour ago, digger70 said:

What's wrong with you people .I start at 4 Am , Have me toilet break and coffee and take a hand full of Meds god knows they might work. Then take the Dog for a walk and his Toilet break. when I come back I have some more coffee and muck around in the veg garden un till the Gf calls me for a cooked break fast after  that taking an Big Toilet break and walk the dog Again. when back, back in the Garden till 10/11 Am Then Relax with a n other coffee and finish with a nice shower and waiting for Lunch. After lunch Relax for a while maybe a NaNa Nap /Movie .After that Walk the dog and some more coffee snd a snack than more mucking around in the garden and the Lawn Feww busy all the time .No rest for the wicket. then have a few or more  beers and wait for a cooked dinner   

I'll tell you what is wrong with me- don't have a dog, don't have a garden, don't have a GF, don't get cooked breakfast or dinner.

Life's easy when you've got it all.

27 minutes ago, Nyezhov said:

Now that is a memory! Kudos to you. Winner! You pooped in Antactica and near Shakletons hut? He pooped in the same area! Dude, you far supass so many of us here, we are NOT worthy!

No need for sarcasm.

I was indeed very lucky to be able to spend a year there. Not many are able to. I do think I won the lottery by being able to do so and especially in the job I had. I don't think I'd like it much now though- the base is probably too PC now.

18 hours ago, Odysseus123 said:

Yes..I was standing on the footpath when they came streaming along so I just took a few snaps.

If I tried to do that in Australia it may have gone wrong very quickly.

WOW. Has Oz gone THAT bad?

Makes me wonder which is the third world country and which the first world?

No wonder I loved LOS.

On 4/2/2020 at 6:20 PM, owl sees all said:

I am beginning to hate windows 10.

Not as much as I. 7 is far superior to 10 for what I do. I also hate MS as they won't support perfectly good older software so they can get richer. I hope there is a circle of hell reserved for them.