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What most don't know is that if the serious infection rate increases significantly, there are not enough Drs, nurses and hospital beds in the west to handle it.
If the number requiring a ventilator or even just ICU care rises above a certain level, Drs will be having to choose whom to save. Just regarding nurses alone, to be an ICU nurse takes a lot of extra training over and above normal registered nurse training, and that is a minimum 3 year course for a registered nurse. An ICU nurse normally takes care of ONE patient- two would be pushing it. Extra nurses and ICU beds can't be magicked up.
In China they were able to build more hospitals just for Corona, though I have no idea where the nurses come from. That's just not possible in western countries. Another thing to remember is that western people on the whole don't want to be nurses any more ( the financial rewards are too poor to make it worthwhile ). They import nurses from the Philippines and places like India, and the supply is not unlimited. People think Drs are the ones that save them, but it's actually the nurses. Those tv series about hospitals always glorify Drs but they are fiction.
Also remember that if all the ICU beds are taken by Corona patients any elective surgery patients that require ICU care post surgery won't be able to have surgery. What happens when a serious road accident or heart attack needs a bed and they are all full?
Lots of things that no one is talking about.
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That'll serve Pixar for introducing characters irrelevant to the movie for entirely, IMO, purely social engineering reasons.
Personally I don't care about the homosexual angle, but I'm avoiding movies with PC social engineering as they are inevitably <deleted> movies.
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He probably had a lucky escape.
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19 minutes ago, heybruce said:
I don't think people without proper training should have guns. I also think people should be held responsible when they handle their weapons irresponsibly. The excuse "I didn't know it was loaded" should be taken as an admission of criminal negligence. Penalties for carrying a weapon under the influence should be as stiff as the penalties for driving under the influence.
No argument with me there. However people that cause problems with cars don't get their cars taken off them- they get punished for what they did.
I'm against gun control and FOR punishment for those that use them irresponsibly. Gun control is, IMO, the thin end of the wedge, and the agenda, IMO, is banning guns. The only party that won't ban guns is the GOP, IMO.
However, this is going off topic and that's the last from me on it.
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On 3/10/2020 at 3:48 PM, tifino said:
but who 'smart' would willingly answer a faceless 'survey'
- may as well submitted their Passwords wilst they were at it...
You think they don't already know what all the passwords are?
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Time that vile, IMO, platform is destroyed. If it takes winning billions against them in court so be it.
It started as a "good idea" and morphed into an evil method of stealing everyone's ( that uses it ) information.
I don't use it.
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3 minutes ago, heybruce said:
You been following too much right-wing fake news. What Democrat in office, or running for office, is calling for a ban on guns?
Far as I know none, but they want restrictions and we all know where "restrictions" end up. IMO, the ultimate goal of the Dems is to remove guns from the population.
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2 hours ago, Boomer6969 said:"Joe, what are you going to do to end the absurdity of billionaires buying elections and the three wealthiest Americans owning more wealth than the bottom half of our people,"
Given that Bloomberg is supporting Joe, probably nothing.
Anyway, go Bernie, go. Stick it to Biden. You have nothing to lose, and the big chair to win if you do it well enough.
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11 hours ago, heybruce said:
When Trump goes ballistic at every perceived slight it's called "counter-punching". When Biden calls BS on a worker who accuses him of trying to "take away our guns" he's accused of losing it.
Can you see why people don't take Trump supporters seriously?
C'mon. The Dems use every mass shooting to call for a ban on guns. No one that likes to own a gun trusts the Dems, IMO. That's why gun owners don't take the Dems seriously, IMO.
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7 hours ago, heybruce said:
Republican healthcare is Obamacare even though they are trying to repeal it. Really? You do know Republicans are fighting in court to defund the Affordable Care Act, don't you? https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2019-07-08/trump-backed-lawsuit-to-invalidate-obamacare-back-in-court
My point is that if we'd elected HRC in 2016 we would be better prepared for this and future pandemics. If we elect a Democrat this year we will be better prepared for future pandemics.
What is you point?
But you didn't ( elect HRC ). How about accepting the 2016 result and get on with fighting the election in November?
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1 hour ago, heybruce said:
Trump's promise was to repeal the Affordable Care Act and replace it with something cheaper and better.
How's he doing on that?
How'd it be if Congress stopped trying to impeach Trump and do their job and come up with a better, cheaper alternative.
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16 hours ago, earlinclaifornia said:
funny as he said he was making a joke Did you get it
I got it and it was funny.
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15 hours ago, Gervais Bilodeau said:
China is doing it right now. New cases and mortalities are going down every day. They started at the end of january...6 weeks ago. It can be done. Next they gonna have to make sure the virus not coming back in from other countries.
You believe what the Chinese government says?
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On 3/9/2020 at 10:38 PM, JHolmesJr said:This virus has proved that the whole world is "incompetent" at dealing with it.
The only way to conquer spread would be to lock the entire world up at home, close all borders,
cease all trading and business, stop all work, flights, trains, travel, visiting, shopping, walks in the park....
everywhere. Right from the day the first case was announced in early January. Can that be done?
NO!
All windows for prevention have expired....containment is a pipe dream...now mitigation is the only way
forward. Until then, panic needs to be actively discouraged or hospitals will be over run and even medical pros
will be too infected to care for patients. I fully understand why governments need to sound optimistic
because the alternative is too horrific to imagine.
So stop with the proselytising....it's tempting to keep bashing Trump because it's an election year.
If it was Biden in the hot seat I bet he would need constant reminding about what the name of the virus
was.....and that his name is Joe.
Get real folks. The cat is out of the bag, the horse has bolted, etc.
However, with a 3% mortality rate it's NOT THE END OF THE WORLD.
What is going to destroy us is the overreaction going on. Even if it ended tomorrow, it'd take months to get back to "normal" and many businesses going broke, people unemployed. That's the disaster, IMO.
Anyway, get used to it. People live in ideal conditions ( overpopulated cities ) to breed and spread viruses that are not good for humans. Expect another and another and another to follow.
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23 hours ago, geriatrickid said:
Postman delivers "infected mail? Where do you get such nonsense?
"Because of poor survivability of these coronaviruses on surfaces, there is likely very low risk of spread from products or packaging that are shipped over a period of days or weeks at ambient temperatures," US CDC
"It's not going to be transported on a box," says Dr. Michael Ison of Northwestern University, who studies viral infections among transplant patients, who have weakened immune systems.
"There is no evidence from any previous outbreak that anyone has ever gotten infected from a package," Elizabeth McGraw, director of the Center for Infectious Disease Dynamics at Pennsylvania State University, "it is highly unlikely that the virus could survive for multiple days outside or inside a cardboard box, for example, that contains something an infected person had sneezed on or handled."What we know about these viruses is that they don't last very long on surfaces, and that's particularly the case for a very porous surface" such as cardboard, McGraw explains.
Bit too quick on the draw there- try thinking before shooting. Infected postman infects mail just before it's collected- how about that?
there is likely very low risk
it is highly unlikely
Do you understand what you posted? Low risk is NOT no risk.
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On 3/6/2020 at 8:04 PM, toenail said:
.you just assume your steam rice in a restaurant will be delivered 15-20 minutes before the two dishes you ordered
I got sick of the dessert being delivered with the main, so I started ordering dessert AFTER the main was delivered.
I miss the little things that made LOS such an interesting place to live. I'd never go to a proper restaurant now, as they are all too expensive. The best I can do is a Maccers now and then.
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On 3/3/2020 at 4:12 PM, Vietem said:
You duck when stepping over someone’s outstretched legs when they are sitting on the floor.
That's not a duck, it's a bow. My SIL did it all the time. Really annoying.
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45 minutes ago, webfact said:Biden, whose propensity to veer off script occasionally causes self-inflicted wounds, snapped at the worker using an obscenity.
A great pick for president. If he loses it at a worker. I can just imagine how the debates are going to go.
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5 hours ago, geriatrickid said:
Wouldn't now be a good time to do all the infrastructure work they have been talking about? Close the roads, dig up the streets, bury the cables, paint the lines etc. when there is no traffic to jam. Maybe some hotels could start closing multiple floors to do some deep cleaning and renewal or to fumigate the bed bugs. This is an opportunity for pattaya to clean itself up.
Don't hold your breath.
At least the sea should be less toxic with so many fewer flushes going into the bay.
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6 minutes ago, jacko45k said:
Firstly the topic was tourists and their origins is another issue.... tourists from Bangkok, who stay for a weekend are beneficial. I know quite a few who come to Pattaya for the City and the pleasures it offers, the nightlife ... I would expect the golfers to be in the minority, not many sets of clubs leaning on the bar in soi Buakhao.
Still, I find the content of the OP amusing....effectively 'Come Visit Pattaya.... No Chinese!'
Golfers will doubtless be in short supply in grotty beer bars. They can afford better places to relax.
Pattaya has been a golfers mecca for decades.
In the 90s I went to Pattaya to find a temporary GF to take to the beaches of the south, and while there I went on a few tours. Even in the golden days of the 90s there was little to attract one to stay any longer than one had to, unless one spent all one's time in the bar beers and gogos.
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5 hours ago, impulse said:
Maybe 10 in one block... But I digress.
The point is that the criminal element is still there. They still have to eat and feed their families. Their monetary needs haven't decreased in the same ratios as the number of victims they now have to choose from. Still other (even honest) people won't be able to feed their families and some of them will become desperate. It's not as if a lot of them have any marketable skillsets that will tide them over while tourism is in the tank.
Simple math says that a higher percentage of tourists will become victims.
Edit: And if I lived in Pattaya (or any other tourist area), I'd be beefing up my home security. That's another arena where folks without marketable skills can jump over and scrounge up enough $$$ to meet their needs when their normal livelihood is in the toilet.
I'm not disputing that crime WILL increase, just the comment about 100 ladyboy pickpockets, and that was from Walking St to Soi 10, not one block.
When Purachai ruined Pattaya farang nightlife crime went up significantly, so expect more of the same.
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3 hours ago, Kwasaki said:
What lies beyond the epidemic, easy really the next epidemic.
As long as humans continue to move to cities epidemics will become more common. Cities are the ideal way to spread disease to lots of people and mass air travel is the best way to spread it worldwide.
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Looks like a great time to visit LOS. Pity that I'm unable to do so at this time.
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20 hours ago, 3NUMBAS said:
strange is southern italy appears to be free on infections ,unlike the north
All of Italy is now shut down, according to the news I heard.
Olympics could be delayed 1-2 years if Games can't go ahead in summer
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Postponing or delaying is, IMO, a nonsense. Athletes train to be ready at a specific time and asking them to carry on for one or two years is just a non starter IMO. Also other major sports events will take place in a year or two, so Olympics would be conflicting.
Either have the games without an audience ( just on tv ) or cancel it.