thaibeachlovers

Errr, what's the chance that a random Thai woman met by chance speaks English well enough to a/ even understand a western joke b/ has a western sense of humour? I've never encountered any Thai woman that had a western sense of humour, and I have never been amused by what has them rolling around laughing fit to bust. What I have encountered are Thai women that pretend to understand western humour as they can sense a big pay off comin'.

Agree. To look at it from a non hooker perspective, who could imagine that attractive Thai women ( is any guy going to try it on with a woofer? ), who get hit on all the time anyway, are going to welcome some strange farang trying to hit on them when just trying to do a bit of shopping? Do they imagine that a/ attractive Thai women are just hanging around malls waiting for a farang to ask them out for wild sex b/ attractive Thai women are interested in strange farangs c/ that they are such God's gift to women that their animal magnetism is going to sweep attractive Thai women into bed with them? I was working on the assumption that said farangs are not wanting to spend an afternoon enjoying the history of various temples around Bkk, followed by an slap up dinner at their expense and a peck on the cheek as they say goodbye.

Nonsense in YOUR opinion. Thousands enjoyed his column, so why do you persist in trying to bring him down? Did he insult you personally or something? Why can't you just let posters that enjoyed his contribution to our lives celebrate his column? Why do you have to be so nasty about him. You didn't like his column, OK, can't you leave the thread be and not come on just to be a wet blanket. Bye.

I have to fundamentally disagree. From the early 90s till well into this century the farang scene in Bkk, which was basically Patpong, Nana, and Cowboy, remained basically the same. Purachai had a major impact during thaksin's diabolical period as PM, but it did come back, even if not as vibrant as previously. Early closing also made a huge difference as the scene in Nana after closing moved into Sukhumvit where small businesses soon moved in to provide pavement tables and drinks. Nana itself carried on much as always. I can't speak for Patpong this century as I no longer went there due to the vile night market, and many of the Gogos were gone and replaced by bag shops. Cowboy, which I did visit occasionally remained much the same, except for Tilac, which was my first hang out and the source of my first long time Thai GF, went horribly flashy and unpleasant. IMO the most drastic change has come from the internet which means the better girls no longer have to rotate around a chrome pole for some hours, in hope of being rented out. I prefer to think that Trink was woked out of his job. Had he just been simply retired as no longer relevant, they would at the least have given him a decent send off, which they didn't. New brooms and all that.

Are you saying Thailand had e mails since mid 90s? I didn't even see mobile phones back then. You seem to have a personal grudge against Trink to despise him so much. To myself and thousands, he was an informative and interesting source about Bkk night life to read weekly. Google is not my friend on finding out when internet became commonplace in Thailand, so the best I can do is this https://blog.apnic.net/2019/09/04/thseries-mapping-thailands-past-present-and-future-internet/ “Back then there were no commercial Internet Service Providers (ISPs) in Thailand. The first [Internet Thailand Company] was established in 1995; it deployed a 512 Kbps leased line to UUNET in the USA. So not exactly commonplace then. Another major change in the history of Thailand’s Internet (noted on the map) happened in 2001 following the passing of the Telecommunications Business Act (B.E. 2544). This made getting a license to operate a telecommunications business a lot easier, as previously ISPs were required to be a joint venture with the Communications Authority of Thailand. Which fits with my memories that internet cafes didn't start in Thailand till this century. Even in London, the first internet cafe I was able to use was very late last century. If you can provide proof that Trink may have been able to use the internet in the mid 90s and the use of e mails in Thailand was commonplace then, I'll bow to your superior knowledge.

IMO every country I have been in since I started working overseas, because NZ paid nurses a pittance, has got worse since then ( except for Saudi which couldn't get any worse ). Why should Thailand be different? Biggest change for me in LOS was staying in the country. I started on 90 day visa exempt back to back visits, and ended up paying an agency to avoid the BS, but that is a once a year thing.

I don't, as I need more opportunities to have a laugh and his posts are often very comical.

Perhaps Thai girls should refuse to have sex without a condom then. It's them that has the problem if they get pregnant. If they are too stupid to do that then it's on their own heads. I don't expect the boys to voluntarily use a condom because boys that don't want to are ignorant little <deleted> and unfortunately girls like that sort of cretin. So, sadly, it's on the girls to start being strong and saying no, not without a condom.

Are you saying it's OK in Thailand to steal intellectual property?

I used to enjoy them. The totty is always spectacular. Like someone said to me way back when I was in school, just because it's garbage it doesn't mean you can't enjoy it. IMO most of the real movie garbage are the ones that win Oscars, the ones that the makers and actors think are important. Movies are for enjoyment. If I want social justice or some such BS I'll tune into the UN or some other irrelevant organisation, like parliament. I had an operation in 1980 and was in a ward that only had the parliament channel on the bedside headphones. Talk about a pack of idiots squabbling over BS! I've never had much respect for them since then.

If true I doubt it was the diarrhea. It would, IMO be excessive loss of water from the body, that he may not have been able to replace.

You really are taking the michael aren't you! The post I made, to which you responded with your irrelevant reference to Russia was If they give the money to Ukraine, can we expect that most of it will be stolen? Ukraine is, after all, a very corrupt country. NB, it was not a question in response to yourself, and I did not quote you. It is a stand alone question about Ukrainian corruption. It could be any money from anywhere- doesn't matter. It's about Ukrainian corruption PERIOD. Sooooo, where in that sentence can you see any reference to Russia that would necessitate introducing Russia for some unknown reason? We, as if you didn't know, is myself and anyone that agrees with me.

You really have a thing about him, don't you? I hope he does win, and does something about Washington this time. If ever a ( IMO ) snake pit needed a good cleaning it's that one. This time he won't have that <deleted> Sessions stabbing him in the back, so hopefully they won't be able to tie him up in BS again. The western economy, far as I can see, is built on BS, and is due to collapse anyway, so it doesn't really matter who is POTUS IMO. It's probably going to happen anyway. At least with Trump we get a few laughs on the way down. OR Nothing really bad happens and it's just BS as normal. OR WW3 happens and it's all irrelevant. OR we have the 1930s depression on steroids ( there are a few billion more people than last time ). Cue wars and civil strife everywhere. OR something else entirely Your guess is as good as mine

You are so right. Why oh why do posters keep complaining that God doesn't care about humans enough, as if God has to hold their hand and take away all their cares, feed them when hungry, heal them when ill, provide for every need. The Bible has a story about that when humans lived in the garden of Eden, but they disobeyed and were cast out. Time for some to man up, grow a pair and accept that mankind's problems are as a result of mankind's bad behaviour. God didn't make humans kill each other, eat bad food and drink alcohol or smoke tobacco- that's on people's choices. If God took away free will in exchange for an easy life, they'd likely complain about that too. Humans make bad choices, behave badly, and live badly. It's on them, not God.

Like the song says "you never know what you've got till it's gone" and for sure the good times are gone baby, gone.

We were. Unfortunately I didn't know that till too late. Born after the war, and into the most prosperous times average westerners will ever know, just in time for the sexual revolution ( the pill ). Easy to get work, no <deleted> like the internet to waste time on. Before PC, before woke, before Vietnam tore the whole thing down and stamped on the pieces. That IMO was the beginning of the end of the dream that Kennedy espoused, a better deal for humanity, a dream turned to <deleted> in Dallas. IMO since then it's just been a long slow spiral into <deleted>, epitomised by the insane idea that we can be a different gender just because we want to be- madness. Then it's all the other barking sideshows along the way. I actually pity the youths of today, that will likely never know a world without having their faces glued to a screen.

Not so in Asian media, so perhaps that's the appropriate ending. I don't know how many Kung Fu movies I've watched where everyone dies at the end, but a few, and that trend continues, even in more modern Korean movies. Only Hollywood needs a happy ending For a taste of a really tragic ending watch Oldboy, though that isn't the most gruesome that I've seen by far. https://movieweb.com/korean-movies-with-tragic-endings/

I bought a copy of Patpong Sisters, still unread 20 or even 30 years on. Never quite got around to reading it. Perhaps I might dig it out now I've been reminded of it.

Oh how times change. I mainly used the non AC buses because they were cheaper than the blue AC buses, and also because they were more interesting. Seemed like relics of the past barely hanging together, wood floors and steep steps to get in and out. Had to be at the door to be able to get out before they drove off. I felt sorry for the drivers as they were stick shift. There used to be a private company that ran pink AC minibuses, with a difficult front door to get in by, and the driver took the money, no conductor. I don't remember when, but they vanished long ago. I never really figured out all the routes, as some of the routes had the same number, but went different places. They had the details in the window, but not in English. I learned the Thai for "all the way" ( sud sai ) to avoid problems with the amount of money required. I never went all the way, but it was so cheap it didn't matter. Sometimes I just held out a handful of coins and the conductor ( should that be conductress? ) helped themselves to the correct amount. I loved riding Bkk buses, as it was a slice of life tourists on their big tour buses will never see. I went train instead of air for the same reason, but that's another story.

As I remember it, it got taken over by bag shops, and then that <deleted> night market <deleted> ruined what was left.

Reminds me of my very first night in Bkk since the 1970s. I booked an hotel on Sukhumvit not far from Soi 4 at the airport which included a van to the hotel. I knew about Patpong, but never heard of Nana. I asked a hotel guy where the action was, but he brushed me off, so I set off to find it on my own. Sukhumvit after dark was closed, and not even a pedestrian in sight, not like now. I found a massage parlour with male masseuses ( if you know what I mean ), but that was not what I was after, so I walked to Patpong ( I didn't realise it was such a long walk at the time ) and completely missed Nana Plaza- so near but so far! As for what happened at Patpong, that is another story, and one that will not be told on here.

That's exactly why I read Trink's column when in Saudi- to keep in touch with the scene I relished. I made loads of money in Saudi and spent a lot of it in Bkk ( I never made it to Pattaya till after I left Saudi for good- but once I did, I only passed through Bkk with one night in Nana before heading to Ekkami ). Before anyone says it- I know Trink didn't write about Pattaya. Had he done so I might have arrived there sooner than I did.

Sounds like the bar on Cowboy I went into once. Had some "interesting" photos of the BGs by the door. I didn't know who the owner was though or remember the name of the bar.

You obviously haven't been in Thailand long enough. He pretty much vanished soon as his column ended, but pretty well known while he was writing it.

On my first visit to Bkk in the 70s, we went up the Golden Mount, which must have been the highest point in all of Bkk, and almost all we could see were shop houses. There may have been some buildings over 3 stories, but very few. I have the photos some where. I'll have to see if I can find them to see if that is a proper memory.