thaibeachlovers

Deflection. How about responding to what I said about making peace without irrelevant quips?

Look to the zionist movement to answer that.

I watched Al Jazeera as the israeli defense minister called Gazans "animals".

I thought israel claimed to be a civilised country. Do civilised people think it's OK to kill children because the enemy does?

They should defeat the fighters in israel and then solve the root cause of the problem by withdrawing from the illegally occupied Palestinian land and making a real peace based on the two state solution. If they do not, this will only happen again and again in the future. The Palestinians are not going away- live with them in peace or keep fighting for generations. Does israel want to be occupying Palestinian land and forcing all it's people to become soldiers for ever? Do they have no dreams of living a normal life?

What the quote says was as true in 2012 as it is today, or are you going to claim that Israel wasn't attacking refugee camps back then? https://reliefweb.int/report/israel/israeli-forces-commit-massacre-jenin-refugee-camp Israeli forces commit massacre in Jenin refugee camp Format News and Press Release Source LAW Posted 8 Apr 2002 Originally published 8 Apr 2002 Israeli forces, comprising of more than 150 tanks, armored personnel carriers and artillery, backed by F-16 fighter jets, continue to attack Jenin refugee camp, home to 15,000 Palestinian refugees, living on one square kilometer.

Is Chomsky right though? I think he is.

I'd be interested to know what "heavy weapons" that poster thinks the Palestinians posses. If they have them, why have they not used them? Of course he gave no links to prove his erroneous claim.

I guess you consider a large part of the world's populations uncivilised then. Many people and some countries do not support israel.

So how many of the 2 million+ innocent Gazans have to die to make up for the 250+ kids that were dancing? Plenty of dead children already, so how many Gaza children will have to die to pay the debt? Revenge killing will only create more recruits for Hamas, and let's not forget that the Palestinians on the West Bank are also watching, and waiting to take revenge of their own.

I'm on the side of Palestinians that are NOT in Hamas or any other armed group that are suffering because israel does not discriminate between fighters and innocent civilians with their bombs on residential areas. Cutting off water to the entirety of Gaza affects everyone, whether Hamas or not.

I can agree with that. The only thing I don't understand is why Americans support israel to the extent they do.

Indeed. Seems a misnomer to describe it as the "Holy Land", given the amount of blood that has been shed in that unfortunate region. I don't think it can be called a "war" any longer, given it is now just an attack on a captive population by air and artillery.

Seems the israeli army is carrying out your wishes with the murder of hundreds of Palestinians by artillery and bombing of residential areas, including many children. How many dead children will satisfy your desire to kill Palestinians? Yes netanyahu, the world is watching as you call up 300,000 reservists. One wonders just what so many are needed for, as Gaza has no heavy weapons, and is defenseless against bombing and artillery. As seen on Al Jazeera, the israelis have cut off water to over 2 million people. Just how many Gazans need to die to satisfy netanyahu and his ultra right cronies? The israeli defense minister referred to Gazans as "animals". Meanwhile, the freedom loving Americans are sending more munitions to israel in case they don't have enough to kill all the Gazans. Yes, the world is indeed watching. BTW, it has been reported that for every attack on residential areas without warning, a hostage will die, so seems that the israelis are not even going to try to rescue them, as they are not negotiating.

Yes we know all about that, but there are 2 million in Gaza that DIDN'T do any of that. Do they all deserve to be murdered by bombs?

Actually they are belly up financially, but they just keep printing and borrowing money. Some day it's going to have to be paid for, but not today.

I have no idea of what point you are trying to make. This is the Pub subforum and is for talking like we were in the pub. It doesn't have to be serious. Within reason any opinion is OK.

For some of us paid female company is the only option.

I came to terms with it long ago. My only fear is having a lingering painful death because I had a stroke and couldn't use my phone. I'd get one of those alarm things but they cost too much.

My wife loved dancing with me in there.

I disagree. If they go too far in Gaza, it will become too difficult for western governments ( other than the US ) to pretend the Israelis are the good guys. Boycotts to follow.

I fail to understand the point you are making. Are you saying American planes are going to bomb Gaza, or are you saying that those warships are going to bombard Gaza? I hope not on both scenarios.

Not sure, but I think he was saying that he expects Hamas people to enter the US to take revenge for supporting Israel. It's not like the UK has sent an aircraft carrier to support them ( does the UK even have an aircraft carrier with planes anymore? ).

You are so right about that. I fail to understand how any that saw the failure of Russia to take the capital could even imagine that Russia had the capability to invade a NATO country. I guess they need a reason to continue to support this proxy war.

I did misunderstand your post, Apologies. I assume the money had to be used by a certain date, or I'm sure he would have just let it lay like you say. OR He really has to do something on the border and he thinks he can blame building the wall on the GOP in congress. Whichever is true, Trump is never going to let this opportunity to give it large to Biden pass.