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I bet you found the same ONE that I found LOL.

Even swamps needs Da Management.

I went back 10 years or so for your benefit to show Biden about the same age (or even younger) as when Reagan was POTUS. The Biden archives were obviously found on the internet, just as Reagan ones can be found today. Obvious really!

Your are too kind. But it was so easy really and the choice was huge.

Oh yes. I remember, or do I?

Read the link.

There is plenty of archived material available now. His speeches were sharp and often witty.

Rubbish is what.

No recession possible for the EU of course. ???? https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/europe-heading-recession-cost-living-crisis-deepens-2022-09-05/

27 countries 5.5x the size of just one - outstanding.

The French? Difficult? Just like the 60's, except that now they have the mini-me Napoleon instead of de Gaulle. The others? Well that only leaves Germany really and they look to be running on empty. Let's see who really needs the suppository but you'd better practise touching your toes. https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/german-economic-downturn-deepens-sept-outlook-grim-flash-pmi-2022-09-23/

You mean like of of them colonoscopy things?

All the sins of the world? Bye.

The House and Government are comprised of MPs or Lords, so why differentiate? I am saying that, from their words and proposals, many of them gave the impression they had only basic knowledge of the EU, particularly with respect to the hoped for "orderly withdrawal". Goodnight.

No but no the point / 10% wow / amendments invariably minor effect / EU fault - far too many of them.

Next referendum lol - that would be both silly and difficult.

Yes, I don't care to answer every silly question thrown at me.

I think that you know I was ignoring you. Bye.

Ideological reasons? Four pillars more like. Is there a point to your puzzling second para? Third para...most of the lobbying in the EU is done by big business and large corporations. Most of these "consultations" happen behind closed doors. Laws, directives and regulations are only proposed by the commission, which is accustomed the parliament to pass them easily, which generally happens. Once an EU law is passed it becomes law automatically in EU member states, due to EU law primacy - in theory the UK parliament has to pass the same law into national law UK law but it doesn't effectively make any difference - the backlog was such that the UK was way behind with this transposition process by the time of exit.

Not evading...ignoring.

Been though any floods?

Do you not recall how many UK MPs thought that we could leave the EU but still stay in the SM and CU, even after the vote, and on both sides? To give Cameron his due, he did spell this out but many chose to disbelieve him. Many MPs and MEPs rarely digested all of the rules and directives before passing them - too lengthy and often bundled together in huge batches in the EP for voting on according to a rapid timetable, which was about the only thing the EU ever did quickly. Not a chance of even having enough time to evaluate them nor fully understand them. All to easy to get through with QMV. Some people rightly call it railroading. Magic dust back.

Thanks. If he'd said EFTA I might gave understood.

The UK government should have walked away after 2 years, that's what Article 50 indicates. But of course Article 50 does not highlight all of the the difficulties for any member state trying to extract itself from a maze of conditions and obligations, which have accumulated, altered and amplified so much since joining the EEC in 1973. The succession of treaties and the introduction of the single market, Euro and the customs union resulted in a far more involved commitment than was envisaged and described to the UK public in 1972 and 1975, even though the Treaty of Rome indicated what was to come. Of course the UK could not leave without agreements for financial obligations and the people, at least. After the referendum, it seemed that most MP's (and cabinet ministers) had no clue as to the extent of the level of control that the EU had gained over a, supposedly sovereign UK. The Civil Service kept quiet and had evidently been happy with the status quo for years - the EU saved them a lot of work, so they only started crying after the leave vote - lazy overpaid bums.

And so..... the withdrawal negotiations, such as they were, are done.