snowleopard

Jeff1@ 2005-04-25 09:45:05

The other thing I dont understand is if this " drug " is on the nipple or some other part of the body , why does the one with it on not get knocked out also ?

Jeff1@2005-04-29 03:07:32

I never had a nipple that tasted bad 

but as I asked before , why does the one with the nipple ( or skin ) not get knocked out ?

Because it's a transvestite who got his artificial boobs from a sex-change operation

Here is the story i got from my wife, and one of my thai neighbors who both believe in this. But according to the is there are no drugs involved. These people have some black magic powers. About six months ago, this girl told my wife that she was walking on second road near big C in Pattaya when three girls approached her.they started a friendly conversation, then touched her wrist, and she gave them all herjewlry she was wareing, about 6000 baht, and gave them all the money she had. Thais are very superstisous ( i don't think i spelled this correctly) asnd firmly believe in this so called black magic.

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Thais are very superstisous ( i don't think i spelled this correctly) asnd firmly believe in this so called black magic.

In the West,that black magic is called hypnosis.

Not all Thais are superstitious while some Westerners are.

Fire extinguisher control!!!!!!

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I once got 2 fire extinguishers free from ex minister Chalerm.

Both were empty!

I am making a web based software that makes transliteration in Thai for Finnish words. I am not sure if I can find any use for it.. maybe I can make a fin-thai dictionary or something later.

I am not so good in Thai language but I can read OK.

First I would like to know if it's possible to produce R or S in end of the word? For S I would like to translate a word like "Species", "Cars" or whatever. And for R maybe just "Car". Anyway the sound of Finnish R is different.

Thanks!

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Excuse my ignorance, but it is not that different from the "R" as pronounced in formal Central Thai as far as I have heard?

I have always heard the Finnish "R" as being close to the "R" in Spanish (the tip of your tongue bounces with force of the alveolar ridge (the ridge just behind your teeth), and this is also the way a Thai "r" should sound, although the majority of speakers default to an "L" sound in informal speech. Of course, at the end of words, the Thai ร becomes an "N" sound.

Perkele!

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I have always heard the Finnish "R" as being close to the "R" in Spanish

Perkele!

Hyvää päivää... ruotsalainen poika!

You seem to have a knack for Finnish there Meadish...so how would you translate the following greeting into Thai..."saatana perkele haistaa vittu"?

I hope it's polite because it is often heard among Finns...especially while they're ingesting some "Koskenkorva"!

Cheers,

LumiLeopardii ...Täpläinen

I think it is a new word on the streets that people are using to refer to the trendy, "new-age" Thai teenagers who dress unusually, and are interested in crazy or unconventional ways of (mis)spending their youth.

Khun Yoot may correct me here but I think the แนว refers to แหวกแนว, which means innovative or unconventional. Then again, I could be totally wrong!

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Your answer is quite right, Edward B

แนว refers to แหวกแนว, which means innovative or unconventional at the first step and the second step แนว refers to style. เด็กแนว will have their own styles(แนวใครแนวมัน).

There is no specific definition of เด็กแนว. Some said it means people who have the high self-confident, but some said เด็กแนว are people who like to copy their favorite idol's style of dressing such as punk, hip-hop .

เด็กแนว love to dress unusally such as in old jeans which look dirty, listen to indy music (there is a radio station in Thailand call Fat Radio, where there is a person who started to use the term เด็กแนว . Hence, เด็กแนว are people who love to listen to Fat Radio too.) and do so many things which common people don't do. Speaking with their own slang. Sometimes people call เด็กแนว as people who do things in perverse or cranky way.

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neo-hippies,punks,New Age, rap, etc, - there's nothing new anymore!

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Nothing new under the sun.

How would you say that in Thai, to connect this thread to the Thai sayings thread...?

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ที่บ้านนอก ไม่มีอะไรใหม่แท้จริง

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เสือดาวหิมะตัวจริงบ่เอาอีหยังใหม่มันฆ่าเเละกินเนื้อของเหยื่อที่อยู่บ้านนอกเหมือนเดิม

ถ้ามันอยู่ในเมืองเสือดาวหิมะต้องอยู่ในกรงเเละเป็นของเล่นของคน ชิวีตน่าสังเวช เสือดาวพันธุ์นี้มีนิสัยดัดจริตมันลึมบ้านนอกอาจจะมันกิน pizza ไม่ยอมกินตีนไก่อาจจะตัวเองมีตีนกาเเละทำศัลยกรรมเช่นดึงหน้า ตัวนี้เป็นปลอมจริงๆ !

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เมื่อคนเราดูหมิ่นตนเองแล้วคนอื่นก็จะดูหมิ่นเราด้วย

I think it is a new word on the streets that people are using to refer to the trendy, "new-age" Thai teenagers who dress unusually, and are interested in crazy or unconventional ways of (mis)spending their youth.

Khun Yoot may correct me here but I think the แนว refers to แหวกแนว, which means innovative or unconventional. Then again, I could be totally wrong!

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Your answer is quite right, Edward B

แนว refers to แหวกแนว, which means innovative or unconventional at the first step and the second step แนว refers to style. เด็กแนว will have their own styles(แนวใครแนวมัน).

There is no specific definition of เด็กแนว. Some said it means people who have the high self-confident, but some said เด็กแนว are people who like to copy their favorite idol's style of dressing such as punk, hip-hop .

เด็กแนว love to dress unusally such as in old jeans which look dirty, listen to indy music (there is a radio station in Thailand call Fat Radio, where there is a person who started to use the term เด็กแนว . Hence, เด็กแนว are people who love to listen to Fat Radio too.) and do so many things which common people don't do. Speaking with their own slang. Sometimes people call เด็กแนว as people who do things in perverse or cranky way.

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neo-hippies,punks,New Age, rap, etc, - there's nothing new anymore!

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Nothing new under the sun.

How would you say that in Thai, to connect this thread to the Thai sayings thread...?

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ที่บ้านนอก ไม่มีอะไรใหม่แท้จริง

bannork2005-02-15 20:50:55

A good idiom in the paper today, ขี้เเพ้ชวนตี khi pair chuan dtee, to be a bad loser, to pass the blame when you lose, but why 'sheepshit invites you to fight?'

bannork

meadish_sweetball

2005-02-16 10:29:17

Sorry Mr. Countryside, but there is no sheep (or goat) buried here.

Once you see that the word is "lose" and not "goat", you might also see how to analyse the expression.

แพะ = a goat

แพ้ /phae= to lose

Well,Meadish...I never said he was smart!

bannork Posted Yesterday, 2005-04-20 21:30:22

I remember

Your memory doesn't serve you very well BarnOwl and your English could be better too.

You're also projecting some of your feelings onto me,but that's another story.

You might learn something from the following if you can remember it...

Human memory does not operate as if it were a videotape camera. We do not simply record some event in our memory and then later retreive an unblemished recollection of what happened.

Human memory is much more fragile, suggestible, and prone to distortion and decay than we typically realize. As a result, mistaken eyewitness testimony rarely involves outright lies; instead, it usually corresponds to commonly occurring distortions in memory functioning.

Memory consists of three stages: (1) storage, (2) retention, and (3) recall. Storage factors can impede memory accuracy when we find ourselves unable to recall information from our memory because it was never stored there.

Forgetting a detail demonstrates that when we experience some event, our brain makes an instaneous decision whether to store information related to that event - or simply disregard it. The decision to store or disregard corresponds to how we evaluate the event - something worth remembering or merely a trivial circumstance?

The influences of the retention stage can corrode memory via three factors: (1) passage of time, (2) frequency and length of exposure, and (3) new information. Surprisingly enough, memory not only fades away with the passage of time - it also grows and expands.

What fades from memory over time is the actual experience of an event. Consequently, each time we recall some event we must reconstruct it - asking ourselves what happened and how it transpired - and with each reconstruction our memory can change. Therefore memory recall, or the reconstruction of some event, responds primarily to our sense of what is plausible. We actually recall bits and pieces of information and fill in the gaps with inferences or "educated guesses."

After witnessing an event, we are sometimes exposed to new information that can actually change our memory. What is known as the "post-event information effect" often transpires as a result of our dialogues with other people. For example, an eye-witness to some event frequently discusses with others what they saw. In the aftermath of some event, the eyewitness and others may speculate as to exactly what happened, the sequence in which it occured, and the degree to which various participants were involved. Rather than facilitate reproductive memory - the accurate reproduction of some past event, an eyewitness' dialogues with other people create reconstructive memory - a reconstruction of the past which may be quite inaccurate because it responds more to considerations of plausibility than fact. Therefore, people can reconstruct inaccurate memories after witnessing some event as a result of discussing that event with other people.

Now go back and read all posts objectively.

Cheers,

Snowleopard

DP25 Posted Today, 2005-04-19 14:36:09

A strange sense of humor this Snowleopard dude

attacking one of the most useful contributors to this forum

ชื่อเสียงดีได้มายากกว่าสูญเสียไป

What a miserable life it must have

Back to your cave with you

คนโมโหยิ่งจะโมโหตัวเองยิ่งขึ้นเมื่อหวนนึกถึงเหตุผลได้

one of the most useful contributors to this forumn

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=14500

There you go... now you're dismissed dimbulb.

ความคมไม่มีประโยชน์ ถ้าไม่มีอะไรจะให้ตัด

ไม้กวาดใหม่ย่อมกวาดได้สะอาดกว่า

this reminds me of the song: dueling banjos.....

anyway thanx to those that answered me didnt intend to start a duel,

but for thousands of years peoples of all different nations etc have been fighting about boundries that include water which is of course the gift of life so i dont find it unusual that a group of men (i'm assuming all the posters here are men?) are fighting about water, even the spelling of it.....          

let it go, let it flow,  water by any other name is still the stuff that flows in our veins, the stuff that we need to survive, and as yoot points out, whether long or short version, everyone understands the word......

bina

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i dont find it unusual that a group of men (i'm assuming all the posters here are men?) are fighting about water, even the spelling of it.....

yoot Posted 2005-04-14 19:25:51

That's why I asked people who is around to test my understanding.

Yoot wanted answers so we met in person and had this polite conversation which I recorded.

If you want to listen in on our friendly little dialogue,please click on the link below...

http://www.moviequotequiz.com/othersounds/...dleTheTruth.wav

หมาเห่ามักจะไม่กัด

Ok. If you accept that you are a dog..so it was my mistake to think that you are a human being . Sorry, I shouldn't reply.

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Now you're barking up the wrong tree again,you naughty Thai "Bang-Kaeow" sunak you!

สุนัขบางแก้วเป็นสุนัขไทยแท้จริง

It's an idiom Einstein,and I was referring to you.

yoot Posted 2005-03-24 01:36:20

I feel like this girl at first sight.(It doesn't mean that you want her.

That’s so funny!

So this forum is your forum to come out of the closet.

ขอให้โชคดีนะครับ คุณหญิงยุทธ์ ณ ไทยวีซ่า.com

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Here's a fitting cyber-moniker to describe your dual cross-gender personas,which also harmonizes with the title of this thread.

"Misfortune" it is!

"Misfortunate Yoot"="Miss Fortune"!

โอ๊ะ โอ๋ ใครนะปล่อยหมาขี้เรื้อนหนังกลับตัวลายจุด ๆ ขาว ๆ มาเพ่นพ่านแถวนี้หนอ 

ทุกท่านโปรดทราบ ขณะนี้มีหมาอยู่ตัวเพ่นพ่านอยู่ในฟอรั่มนี้ เที่ยวเห่าชาวบ้านไม่เลือก แต่พยายามบอกกับคนว่า  เป็นหมาที่เห่าแต่ไม่กัด  ยังไงก็สงสาร อย่าไปเตะปากหมาปากเปราะตัวนี้นะ  เดี๋ยวมันก็สูญพันธุ์ไปเองแหละ   

Sorry everyone..except...  (หมาเห่าแต่ไม่กัด  .. Is this the meaning of snowleopard?) 

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(หมาเห่าแต่ไม่กัด  .. Is this the meaning of snowleopard?)

เดี๋ยวมันก็สูญพันธุ์ไปเอง

Don't get your hopes up too high now little pup!

Cyberspace is the new realm where this "Panthera Pardus Orientalis" has adapted well and thrives.

In this habitat, I first stalk my prey and then wantonly slay it at will... for mere pleasure.

The easiest quarry around is the domesticated species "Canis Familiaris",from which you have been bred.

That flesh is of inferior quality though_and thus,spurned as food by finicky feline consumers as myself_so it'll be promptly donated to the hungry gourmets of Sakhon Nakhon in a merit-making ceremony.

Theirs is a real "dog-eat-dog" world so you'd better stay away.

I haven't got any advantage from you guys. I just wonder why someone here seem want to offense me.

I think you might be hurt that someone here can use Thai language better than you can but it doesn't make sense why you can't accept that. You are not native Thai.

Leopards are not social animals.

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เสือย่อมไม่ทิ้งลาย

yoot Posted 2005-03-24 01:36:20

I feel like this girl at first sight.(It doesn't mean that you want her.

That’s so funny!

So this forum is your forum to come out of the closet.

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this word was a topic of discussion among Thais too. None of each discussions I have read, all people agreed that it's long. It was about the same as I asked people who are around. Later I read on some papers which are reliable,the information mentions about this word is pronounced as long,but not all of Thais pronounced it as long. There still be a lot of people in countryside pronounced it as short. It's started to pronounce as long from people in the central of Thailand.Even in a paper from RID has mentioned about this word too. It says the original of this word was pronounced as short and distorted to long later.

If you read this clearly you might understand. Many Thai words are pronounced different from their form,but all Thais are used to with them. Thais in some parts of Thai may not pronounce it the same so no one correct and no one wrong,it depends. Why RID doesn't put the length in every pronunciation of Thai words? It's because if we spell it as it form we will get the correct pronunciation by itself. Don't ask every Thais if any words is short or long, they probably don't know , you can try this with you friend.

That's why I asked people who is around to test my understanding.

Sorry everyone here. I can't keep quiet while someone try to insult me. I hope everyone here would understand. I want to clear with "snowleopard". I join in this forum because I think I can help others who want to study Thai which is my langauge and I'm proud with my language. I haven't got any advantage from you guys. I just wonder why someone here seem want to offense me.

คนฉลาดย่อมไม่พยายามทำในสิ่งที่เป็นไปไม่ได้

You are right. Sometimes someone may do something wrong by not intend to do. I said "my Thai is perfect" and it means I can write , speak, and read them in the proper way. As someone here said no one perfect ,I think I shoud accept this to satisfy someone here who try to bite me. (คนที่คอยจิกคอยกัดคนอื่นตลอดเวลาแบบนี้ มีค่าน้อยกว่าแมลงหรือสัตว์เลื้อยคลานชั้นต่ำตัวหนึ่งซะอีก ) .I think you might be hurt that someone here can use Thai language better than you can but it doesn't make sense why you can't accept that. You are not native Thai . You have limit in Thai language the same as I have limit in English langauge. There is not any problem with me to accept that. (มันเจ็บปวดนักเหรอไง)

การกระทำย่อมดีกว่าคำพูด จงทำก่อนพูด แล้วจึงพูดตามการกระทำของท่าน

If you understand this sentense you should know that you did the same. You often give others the wrong explainations, but it isn't my behave to point out other's fault if it isn't effected to others. If I did it I'm ready to apologise if I'm wrong. (ผู้ที่เจริญแล้วย่อมรู้จักขออภัยเมื่อทำผิด และไม่คิดจองล้างจองผลาญผู้อื่น อย่างเช่นคนถ่อยบางคน)

คนอายุสี่สิบ ถ้าไม่เป็นหมอก็เป็นคนโง่ไปเลย

ความรู้ไม่ได้มีมาตั้งแต่เกิด

If you really have this idea , you are more foolish than I thought. People in forty's can be whatever they want. And yes, ความรู้ไม่ได้มีมาตั้งแต่เกิด. Should I expect this from you too?

ผมคิดว่าเธอสร้างความประทับใจว่าเป็นคนไม่ซื่อสัตย์

แมลงวันจะไม่บินเข้าปากที่หุบไว้หรอก

ถูกต้อง แมลงวันจะไม่บินเข้าปากที่หุบไว้หรอก เพราะฉะนั้น กรุณาหุบปากของคุณ ก่อนที่แมลงวันที่บินเข้าไปตายในปากคุณ จะส่งกลิ่นเหม็นมากไปกว่านี้

คุณคิดว่าสิ่งที่คุณพยายามจะยกมานี่ จะสร้างความประทับใจให้กับผู้อื่นได้หรือ ขอโทษ สำหรับผม มันเป็นสิ่งที่เด็กทารกที่ปากยังไม่สิ้นกลิ่นน้ำนม หรือไม่ก็คนที่ไม่มีความเป็นลูกผู้ชายเพียงพอเท่านั้น ถึงจะทำกัน หวังว่าคุณคงจะอ่านเข้าใจนะครับ

โชคดี และสุขสันต์วันสงกรานต์

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หมาเห่ามักจะไม่กัด

ผู้ประสบความสำเร็จคือผู้ที่เผชิญกับความผิดหวังอย่างมีอารมณ์ขัน

สุขสันต์วันสงกรานต์เหมือนกัน=Same ๆ

QUOTE(yoot @ 2005-02-18 23:44:34)

my Thai is perfect

I wouldn't say my Thai is perfect if it is not

QUOTE(meadish sweetball @ 2005-03-09 18:09:01

Hmm, khun yoot, I think you may be confusing spelling with pronunciation.

QUOTES yoot

Hmm, khun yoot, I think you may be confusing spelling with pronunciation.

No.

It's totaly wrong to say น้ำ is pronounced น้าม ( long vowel).

There is no exception for this word.

I don't know why your guys have the idea that it can be pronounced in different way.

It's different because you did it

I asked many people who are around and the answer of them were yes ,they pronounced it as long vowel

Then I seached on the internet and I was shocked.

So, it seem I'm a little bit behind the times

The claim that your Thai is perfect has now been positively validated as false,and your imperfection has hereby been clearly shown and conclusively validated.

Your Thai is in fact imperfect and that fact has been proven beyond reasonable doubt,both in your posts and by your own public admission above!

I rest my case your honor.

ระฆังแตกเสียงก็ย่อมไม่ดัง

ลวดหนามในน้ำ

yoot

I've lived in Thailand more than 40 years now

Originally not by your own volition though but rather by involuntarily emerging onto the domestic scene as yet another of them wild hayseed specimen,among countless others,which was randomly sown and then allowed to mature into this fully immature runt on the fertile soil of this amazing land,all as a direct consequence of the rut and estrus which was once experienced by its preceding generation.

Speaking of that generation and of domestic inbreeding,here we can see how they both used to look like in their heydays of over 40 years ago.

And here's an undated pix from their Song-khran family reunion,with their son posing so proudly and smugly in the middle.

สำเนียงส่อภาษา กิริยาส่อสกุล=The tree is known by its fruit

คนอายุสี่สิบ ถ้าไม่เป็นหมอก็เป็นคนโง่ไปเลย

ความรู้ไม่ได้มีมาตั้งแต่เกิด

yoot

my Thai is perfect

I wouldn't say my Thai is perfect if it is not

ผมคิดว่าเธอสร้างความประทับใจว่าเป็นคนไม่ซื่อสัตย์

แมลงวันจะไม่บินเข้าปากที่หุบไว้หรอก

Anyway,happy Songkhran to everyone!

Snowleopard

So... after we've spent 4 pages on "Before, After" and some other friendly comments, can anyone remark on "later"?

In the context of "I will do it later"

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In the context of "I will do it later"

เดี๋ยวไว้ ผมจะทำทีหลัง "dee-o wai,pom ja tum tee lang"I will do it later.

เราไปรับประทานอาหารกันเถิด แล้ว ภายหลัง จึงไปซื้อของ "raow pai rap-pra-taan aahaan gan teut leow paai-lang jeung pai seu korng"Let's eat together and later go shopping.

Snowleopard

They say on CNN that it's 8.2 and that a tsunami could be generated.

It's better to be safe than sorry so everyone should seek higher ground just in case.

US Geol Survey also says that tsunamis are possible.

Snowleopard.

Is a silent h common in Thai words?

Probably more common than the silent K or G in English (Know, Knot, Knight, Gnaw, Gnome, Gnat).

- there is no rule for knowing if it is silent or not, other than learning word by word.

As for a rule, I reckon there are simple rules you can learn to recognise whether it should be silent or not. For example, if the consonant immediately following the ห has a tone mark then the ห is silent. Similarly if the consonant has a vowel above, below or after then the ห is also silent. Note that อ and ว would both be counted as a vowel in this case. So หวง is huang, not wong, and หมอบ is morb, not hom ob. If a vowel follows the ห then you pronounce it. I thnk I've got that right. Can't think of any exceptions. Where's Khun Yoot?

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แหวน

- Big name hospital kept the fetus in the womb more than 2 weeks after the due date.  The baby didn't make it.  The parents filed a lawsuit.  The hospital won. It was their fault, not ours.

- Politician's son got away on a murder case.  He's got money and Daddy's power.  It was a poor man fault, not his.

- This worthless thug shot and killed two British backpackers and possibly will get away with it.  It was their fault, not his.

In Thailand, there are three magic words: Money, Power, and Connection.

Golf

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You're an honest man and you also know what you're talking about.

Don't inveigle innocent prey into the Pattaya nets.They might be ambushed and trapped by predatory pedophiles who're often marauding around those shores with impunity!

The real Thailand is a wonderful place to visit and stay in with kids. Probably the friendliest in the world.

It's enough to see any attractions in Pattaya during a few hours on a day trip.

fenixwra Posted Yesterday, 2005-03-24 14:31:26 Bush sucks

Great post!

ok i got it now; the one guy came out to us, he was 'ทุกข์ใจ ' that everyone is now getting drunk, etc so that's why they helped me go home faster, and why i ate outsside on the patio w/three thai men sort of eating with me so i  wouldnt, god forbid, eat by myself.... its like having lots of older brothers

in the book 'heart talk' the definition was not exactly that, which is why i thought maybe it wasnt the same word... i guess upset/concerned maybe does fit...

thanx....

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thanx....

ถูกใจหรือย้ง

Ferry accident off Phuket.

Ten dead and maybe 15 missing.

Possibly some foreign tourists too.

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The ferry was overloaded and carried about 70 passengers when it capsized in hard weather.Some women and girls are confirmed dead.

It was on the way from Koh Yao.