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2 hours ago, vinny41 said:

NO it doesn't provide a link where the EU allows each country to have a remain or leave vote every 5 years

What the heck is “it” and what is “a link where the EU allows each country to have a remain or leave vote every 5 years”? 

3 minutes ago, My Thai Life said:

This is not true. The WTO does not require a hard border. 

I never claimed the WTO does. How countries protect their borders doesn’t have anything to do with the WTO anyway. 

2 hours ago, Sydebolle said:

Merkel should concentrate on Germany and Germany only. Brexit is an UK internal decision and is linked with Brussels and not Berlin. 
Merkel has plenty of unfinished and unexplained business on her own plate; clean your own house first! 

When you say “Brussels”, what does the city of Brussels have to do with Brexit? Or did you actually mean the EU, which Germany is a member of?

43 minutes ago, richabb1 said:

Ha. Just goes to show that in EU the concept of democracy such as the brexit vote just can’t be accepted and as such this is why they are putting up these road blocks. 

Can’t see anyone not accepting “the concept of democracy” or “putting up (...) road blocks”. Maybe you could elaborate. The last thing I heard is that the EU provided the UK a mechanism to implement its Brexit vote, called Article 50, and since then I haven’t noticed anyone undoing that; I don’t even think EU regulations provide any way to do that. So what the hell are you talking about? 

The article says the doctor offered 50,000 THB to settle things. The Line Chat Screenshot, however, clearly shows a woman asking a doctor that she’s confused about what he was doing but that she would be willing to settle things for some money and asking whether the doctor would do that. 

9 minutes ago, Henryford said:

Ha ha i think he resigned because he was NOT instrumental in negotiating it. It was done by Oily behind everyone's back. Apparently one of Raab's own civil servants worked on the deal without telling him.

So why didn’t he resign immediately after he saw someone else is negotiating something that he will be held responsible for? 

25 minutes ago, nontabury said:

 

In other words this so called agreement is definitely not,what the British people voted for in 2016.

That’s not true. It’s factually not true. People voted that the U.K. should leave the EU. With the current agreement, that will happen. Actually, the agreement doesn’t even matter at all. Article 50 has been triggered, the U.K. will leave the EU, whatever will be agreed with regards to future or interim relationship. 

25 minutes ago, nontabury said:

 

In other words this so called agreement is definitely not,what the British people voted for in 2016.

That’s not true. It’s factually not true. People voted that the U.K. should leave the EU. With the current agreement, that will happen. Actually, the agreement doesn’t even matter at all. Article 50 has been triggered, the U.K. will leave the EU, whatever will be agreed with regards to future or interim relationship. 

2 hours ago, CanterbrigianBangkoker said:

If a vote for the future  independence of a country isn't important, then what is?

The EU didn’t run any “vote for the future independence”. Still the EU is wasting resources on this circus. Be a bit more grateful. 

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They're simply called borders, there is no 'closed' connotation anywhere other than in your and a worrying amount of other's addled minds. The UK isn't proposing to become Bhutan or North Korea. Legal immigration and import is and always will be important and desired, despite certain wild assumptions to the contrary.

Common sense and experience dictates its a necessity to have immigration / customs checkpoints, but having a properly manned and independently controlled border is of course crucial - it's a fundamental part of being sovereign, after all. Borders are what define a country's geography, remit and jurisdiction, that should be a simple and obvious enough concept to wrap your head around, but it clearly isn't for some.

You still didn’t realize that reality looks a bit different (Ireland)? Congrats. 

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Nowhere else in the world does the absurd framework of the single-market/free movement of people coupling that the EU imposes on its increasingly despairing member states, exist. NOWHERE! I wonder why that is? If you want to study, work, trade or retire in a foreign European country then simply apply for the relevant visa as you would anywhere else in the world AND as was the case and happened daily and without issue for many, many years before Maastricht.

I don’t care what other countries are doing. Europe is doing pretty well; I’m sure many countries would love to join. In fact, didn’t quite some countries decided to join? Can’t be that bad after all. Let’s see how the U.K. will be doing ???? 

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To put it concisely -

I offer some fine examples of why this point is so laughably ludicrous: 

Nothing laughable about it. The EU does not have a mandate to fix a member state’s problems, apart from certain membership rules maybe, which we can see in the case of Italy and Greece. 

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I only pray the UK can remove itself from this mess - as definitively as possible - as soon as possible.

Can you please just do it and not waste our resources? We are entertaining you circus for 2+ years now, with another two or so years to come. Out means out, I understood. 

2 hours ago, CanterbrigianBangkoker said:

If a vote for the future  independence of a country isn't important, then what is?

The EU didn’t run any “vote for the future independence”. Still the EU is wasting resources on this circus. Be a bit more grateful. 

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They're simply called borders, there is no 'closed' connotation anywhere other than in your and a worrying amount of other's addled minds. The UK isn't proposing to become Bhutan or North Korea. Legal immigration and import is and always will be important and desired, despite certain wild assumptions to the contrary.

Common sense and experience dictates its a necessity to have immigration / customs checkpoints, but having a properly manned and independently controlled border is of course crucial - it's a fundamental part of being sovereign, after all. Borders are what define a country's geography, remit and jurisdiction, that should be a simple and obvious enough concept to wrap your head around, but it clearly isn't for some.

You still didn’t realize that reality looks a bit different (Ireland)? Congrats. 

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Nowhere else in the world does the absurd framework of the single-market/free movement of people coupling that the EU imposes on its increasingly despairing member states, exist. NOWHERE! I wonder why that is? If you want to study, work, trade or retire in a foreign European country then simply apply for the relevant visa as you would anywhere else in the world AND as was the case and happened daily and without issue for many, many years before Maastricht.

I don’t care what other countries are doing. Europe is doing pretty well; I’m sure many countries would love to join. In fact, didn’t quite some countries decided to join? Can’t be that bad after all. Let’s see how the U.K. will be doing ???? 

Quote

 

To put it concisely -

I offer some fine examples of why this point is so laughably ludicrous: 

Nothing laughable about it. The EU does not have a mandate to fix a member state’s problems, apart from certain membership rules maybe, which we can see in the case of Italy and Greece. 

Quote

 

I only pray the UK can remove itself from this mess - as definitively as possible - as soon as possible.

Can you please just do it and not waste our resources? We are entertaining you circus for 2+ years now, with another two or so years to come. Out means out, I understood. 

2 hours ago, CanterbrigianBangkoker said:

If a vote for the future  independence of a country isn't important, then what is?

The EU didn’t run any “vote for the future independence”. Still the EU is wasting resources on this circus. Be a bit more grateful. 

Quote

 

They're simply called borders, there is no 'closed' connotation anywhere other than in your and a worrying amount of other's addled minds. The UK isn't proposing to become Bhutan or North Korea. Legal immigration and import is and always will be important and desired, despite certain wild assumptions to the contrary.

Common sense and experience dictates its a necessity to have immigration / customs checkpoints, but having a properly manned and independently controlled border is of course crucial - it's a fundamental part of being sovereign, after all. Borders are what define a country's geography, remit and jurisdiction, that should be a simple and obvious enough concept to wrap your head around, but it clearly isn't for some.

You still didn’t realize that reality looks a bit different (Ireland)? Congrats. 

Quote

 

Nowhere else in the world does the absurd framework of the single-market/free movement of people coupling that the EU imposes on its increasingly despairing member states, exist. NOWHERE! I wonder why that is? If you want to study, work, trade or retire in a foreign European country then simply apply for the relevant visa as you would anywhere else in the world AND as was the case and happened daily and without issue for many, many years before Maastricht.

I don’t care what other countries are doing. Europe is doing pretty well; I’m sure many countries would love to join. In fact, didn’t quite some countries decided to join? Can’t be that bad after all. Let’s see how the U.K. will be doing ???? 

Quote

 

To put it concisely -

I offer some fine examples of why this point is so laughably ludicrous: 

Nothing laughable about it. The EU does not have a mandate to fix a member state’s problems, apart from certain membership rules maybe, which we can see in the case of Italy and Greece. 

Quote

 

I only pray the UK can remove itself from this mess - as definitively as possible - as soon as possible.

Can you please just do it and not waste our resources? We are entertaining you circus for 2+ years now, with another two or so years to come. Out means out, I understood. 

2 hours ago, CanterbrigianBangkoker said:

If a vote for the future  independence of a country isn't important, then what is?

The EU didn’t run any “vote for the future independence”. Still the EU is wasting resources on this circus. Be a bit more grateful. 

Quote

 

They're simply called borders, there is no 'closed' connotation anywhere other than in your and a worrying amount of other's addled minds. The UK isn't proposing to become Bhutan or North Korea. Legal immigration and import is and always will be important and desired, despite certain wild assumptions to the contrary.

Common sense and experience dictates its a necessity to have immigration / customs checkpoints, but having a properly manned and independently controlled border is of course crucial - it's a fundamental part of being sovereign, after all. Borders are what define a country's geography, remit and jurisdiction, that should be a simple and obvious enough concept to wrap your head around, but it clearly isn't for some.

You still didn’t realize that reality looks a bit different (Ireland)? Congrats. 

Quote

 

Nowhere else in the world does the absurd framework of the single-market/free movement of people coupling that the EU imposes on its increasingly despairing member states, exist. NOWHERE! I wonder why that is? If you want to study, work, trade or retire in a foreign European country then simply apply for the relevant visa as you would anywhere else in the world AND as was the case and happened daily and without issue for many, many years before Maastricht.

I don’t care what other countries are doing. Europe is doing pretty well; I’m sure many countries would love to join. In fact, didn’t quite some countries decided to join? Can’t be that bad after all. Let’s see how the U.K. will be doing ???? 

Quote

 

To put it concisely -

I offer some fine examples of why this point is so laughably ludicrous: 

Nothing laughable about it. The EU does not have a mandate to fix a member state’s problems, apart from certain membership rules maybe, which we can see in the case of Italy and Greece. 

Quote

 

I only pray the UK can remove itself from this mess - as definitively as possible - as soon as possible.

Can you please just do it and not waste our resources? We are entertaining you circus for 2+ years now, with another two or so years to come. Out means out, I understood. 

2 hours ago, CanterbrigianBangkoker said:

If a vote for the future  independence of a country isn't important, then what is?

The EU didn’t run any “vote for the future independence”. Still the EU is wasting resources on this circus. Be a bit more grateful. 

Quote

 

They're simply called borders, there is no 'closed' connotation anywhere other than in your and a worrying amount of other's addled minds. The UK isn't proposing to become Bhutan or North Korea. Legal immigration and import is and always will be important and desired, despite certain wild assumptions to the contrary.

Common sense and experience dictates its a necessity to have immigration / customs checkpoints, but having a properly manned and independently controlled border is of course crucial - it's a fundamental part of being sovereign, after all. Borders are what define a country's geography, remit and jurisdiction, that should be a simple and obvious enough concept to wrap your head around, but it clearly isn't for some.

You still didn’t realize that reality looks a bit different (Ireland)? Congrats. 

Quote

 

Nowhere else in the world does the absurd framework of the single-market/free movement of people coupling that the EU imposes on its increasingly despairing member states, exist. NOWHERE! I wonder why that is? If you want to study, work, trade or retire in a foreign European country then simply apply for the relevant visa as you would anywhere else in the world AND as was the case and happened daily and without issue for many, many years before Maastricht.

I don’t care what other countries are doing. Europe is doing pretty well; I’m sure many countries would love to join. In fact, didn’t quite some countries decided to join? Can’t be that bad after all. Let’s see how the U.K. will be doing ???? 

Quote

 

To put it concisely -

I offer some fine examples of why this point is so laughably ludicrous: 

Nothing laughable about it. The EU does not have a mandate to fix a member state’s problems, apart from certain membership rules maybe, which we can see in the case of Italy and Greece. 

Quote

 

I only pray the UK can remove itself from this mess - as definitively as possible - as soon as possible.

Can you please just do it and not waste our resources? We are entertaining you circus for 2+ years now, with another two or so years to come. Out means out, I understood. 

Guardian and Business Insider reporting a deal has been agreed and will be presented to the cabinet in an emergency meeting tomorrow. 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/nov/13/cabinet-members-called-in-to-sign-off-mays-brexit-deal

19 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

Name one constructive suggestion Barnier has put forward on anything?

“These are our different membership options. Pick one you like. And don’t forget to fulfill your obligations from your existing membership you signed up for.”

30 minutes ago, 3NUMBAS said:

best of 5 refs till they get the right result that suits em ,,under no circumstances will there be another ref says may

To be fair, at the moment it’s the Brexiteers who refuse anything but vote until get the right result that suits them. 

5 minutes ago, dick dasterdly said:

As long as the options are:-

1) Accept the deal

2) Leave immediately

 

As I've said frequently in previous posts - this would concentrate both uk and eu politicians minds wonderfully on coming up with the best deal for both sides!

A 3rd option should be to remain. No doubts left then after the referendum. 

3 hours ago, canopus1969 said:

You are quite right but at least we have come to our senses and will soon leave them in their own mess

I rather prefer to be in our “own mess” than the mess the U.K. will be in (unless the EU is generous enough to help the U.K. again). 

57 minutes ago, Patriot1066 said:

They will be upset this morning when they see our economy is one of the fastest growing in Europe see the latest figures here

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-46151172

 

Brexit equals only good news

Do you actually read what you post, or do you just hope people don’t check and find out? Or do you just do it like your fat orange idol in the US and completely ignore the truth? 

From the article you linked (annotations by me):

4 hours ago, Krataiboy said:

Yeah, but. . . 

 

Catholics who assault children are behaving contrary to the teachings of their religion.

 

Muslims who abuse children (such as those who did so on what was described as "an industrial scale" in towns and cities across the UK) are practising what their religion preaches through the example of the Prophet, who deflowered his child bride Aisha when she was aged nine.  

 

He was 56 at the time.

Well, I didn’t know sexual abuse of children is ok for you under certain circumstances. 

1 hour ago, lanng khao said:

Unskilled workers work for half the money , ten of them in one room, and what money they make goes straight back home and not back into the economy.

That doesn’t make sense. If they’re unskilled, why would anyone hire them? Market mechanisms would sooner or later push them out of business, unless people actually are ok with their skills.