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1 hour ago, bkkcanuck8 said:
I agree, if the EU thinks they violated the contract or violated the intent and ethics of it... then they should either sue them or suspend their license to distribute any pharmaceuticals (though that would maybe be overkill since it is a "UK-Swedish" company)... So the most appropriate remedy would likely be suing them for any damages caused by the delay to the economy and people of the EU... and let a court decide.
While I think the Article 16 move was bad, suing isn’t necessarily the only appropriate response to someone not honoring a contract. You can definitely demand that your contract partner undertakes everything he can to fulfill his obligations, and this may include taking the capacity from other customers. At the end of the day it’s really up to the contract partner and his problem alone how he manages to fulfill his contractual obligations, and not something that you as a buyer would have to care about. So this really doesn’t have anything to do with the UK but is purely between the EU and AstraZeneca. So I am surprised that some Brexiteers take this personally and get so offended.
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27 minutes ago, Tofer said:
It doesn't, but it does state that the UK, who ordered in advance, will be supplied first, hence UvdL's reaction.
I very much doubt that the contract says that. Would you share the respective clauses here please?
The contract I am aware of says AstraZeneca will manufacture the vaccine at manufacturing sites located within the EU and also stipulates that this includes plants based in the U.K., more specifically two out of four manufacturing sites mentioned in the contract are in the U.K. So maybe you should direct your anger at AstraZeneca instead.
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26 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said:
It is not in he EU's interests to come up with solutions for the Irish border. It is in their interests to use the border issue as an obstacle.
A solution would have been found ages ago if the EU were not hell bent on making it a problem.
A solution was found ages ago. It was the UK who was hell bent to destroy that solution. Because the solution was not in the UK’s interest. No deal with the consequences.
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59 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:
they are out to punish UK in anyway they can behind the scenes and it is showing.
Wasn’t that all “project fear”? ????
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QuoteIt was a knee jerk reaction to discovering that she was at the back of the queue for the supplies, since she couldn't get her act together to organise the necessary and timely contracts, in an attempt to cover up her failings.
Where does the contract stipulate that the EU shall be “at the back of the queue for the supplies”?
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12 minutes ago, Skallywag said:
Durex 52mm, 54mm, or 56mm have been available at the 7-11's for years.
That’s the problem. No 58.
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16 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:
EU for Brexit grace period extension to 2023 has it been given yet.?
Or is this just another handbag at 3 paces fight thread. ????
Still waiting for what the UK can offer for this and for the shellfishes. Maybe free movement of people and adopting burgundy passports.
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Top executives, whether Thai or (even more so) expats, make way more than the 150-200k that’s being mentioned as the highest salary there. I can only assume they got their data from the job openings posted on their site, where I doubt the C-level type of executive jobs will get advertised as those typically are being recruited through a headhunter, internally or via other connections or recommendations. I have access to salary data and top executives through my job and the best earners make way way more than that.
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27 minutes ago, david555 said:Even the fishermans organisations blame their own U.K. gov. that they did not organised the sanitazion facility's for as that is what is needed for those catch from contaminated waters ( as seems to be the reason...) to be allowed on E.U. markets
That’s what happens when you replace competent politicians with a clown car of populists. You get a pile of poo in a Union Jack ribbon and a “Sufferinity” sticker and Johnny Brexiteer says “bravo Boris!”
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13 minutes ago, david555 said:U.K. forgetting they voted that law themself.....apliable to ANY third country ....
Doesn’t even matter who voted for that law. They wanted to be a third country, now be a third country. I’m sure they can tell their shellfish farmers romantic stories about happy British shellfish that is enjoying its sufferinity bwahaha.
All that “Project Fear” biting those amateurs in the ass. Love it.
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50 minutes ago, Hi from France said:
well he's got a problem
...but he's got the solution as well
That’s our Brexit dividend. ???? ????
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QuoteThe consideration of the UK to invoke A16 is to keep necessary shipments of food into NI unhindered, whereas UvdL's intention was the prevention of the passage of vaccines into the UK, from companies honouring their contractual agreements.
The intention was to prevent companies from not honoring their contractual obligations, in order to ensure necessary vaccines needed for the European people. If you think that food shipments into NI is a valid reason for invoking Article 16, then the EU would have much more valid reason to do so. Though I think none of the reasons justifies it.
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18 minutes ago, vogie said:
Link.
UvdL was the instigator on all of this, I told you that you would reap what you show.
You keep fantasizing.
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55 minutes ago, snoop1130 said:Environment Secretary George Eustice told Times Radio. “We have had one or two teething issues on fisheries.”
That’s why he sent that begging letter to the EU.
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28 minutes ago, vogie said:
Whose-ever idea it was it was not a very good idea, are you not bothered that our citizens in NI are not being treated the same as the rest of us, come on you keep saying that you're a patriot, show it.
The “patriotic” thing to do and the treatment “our citizens in NI” deserve is another civil war in Ireland?
28 minutes ago, vogie said:Where do borders go, there is only one place for a border to go and that is between two foreign countries and and a border will not break the GFA, only a militarized border would do this.
Borders between countries come with border posts and police. That alone would be enough to break the GFA and risk another conflict.
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47 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said:The presidency of the European Commission is a higher profile role than the Cabinet Secretary for the UK or any other country.
No, not according to the UK, for which the EU is just another “international organisation”.
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30 minutes ago, Pilotman said:
https://www.gov.uk/browse/business/exports
The UK government did that years ago and gave updated information and guidance throughout the process. If they were too dim or lazy to not follow it and get prepared well in advance then that was, is, their hard luck.
Did they also provide the necessary customs professionals or is that just some cost those companies have to absorb while they’re looking forward to their Brexit dividend?
I guess I’ll have to trust you on this one given that I don’t have time to go through those guidelines. Even though from my experience, such government guidelines merely provide high-level guidance but are far from an executable plan let alone the necessary resources to execute those plans. Professional service firms definitely like it.
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2 minutes ago, vogie said:
And by that, you caused the NI issue. It is really that simple.
The NI problem was there before we had a Brexit vote,No, it wasn’t. Not during the time of EU membership.
2 minutes ago, vogie said:but from what I am reading from your replies is we cannot have anymore democratic votes in the UK just in case it upsets the terrorists, you cannot be serious!
You can do whatever you like. And you learn that there are consequences.
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6 minutes ago, Pilotman said:
These companies have had ample time, years in fact, to get ready, they are just too inefficient to have got it sorted out in advance.
Would you mind providing details as to what exactly they should have prepared and when exactly? And is there a reason why you didn’t publish those details as guidance for those companies?
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10 minutes ago, vogie said:Brexit was not a crime and there was provision for leaving the EU by triggering art 50, we chose that choice, it is really that simple,
And by that, you caused the NI issue. It is really that simple.
Quoteif I can be so bold, I would assume that you would be none too happy if the Russians started building another wall to split Berlin down the middle again, I am sure you would have plenty to say about that, would that be a fair and just statement? It is no different to the EU expecting us to split our kingdom up just to appease the EU.
Brexit was your choice, not the EU’s. All the consequences are of your own making, and you were made aware of it before. You either ignored it or you didn’t believe it; now you own it.
QuoteHopefully Boris will remove this rediculous border down the North Sea and the citizens of NI will be treated in the same fashion as the rest of the UK.
He certainly has a track record for not honoring agreements, and it certainly wouldn’t be the first time where Brexiteers have to learn it the hard way that their actions have consequences. So keep it coming.
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24 minutes ago, vogie said:You understand I hope that you cannot start a war because a country had a democratic vote.
You could, however, admit and own the consequences of your democratic vote. With great power comes great responsibility.
QuoteI reiterate Brexit was not the cause of Mrs U v d Leyens actions, she was, however hard it is for you to accept.
I’m not going to say that I agree with her statements; I think it was wrong. It still required Brexit in the first place, however hard that is for you to accept.
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Just now, vogie said:Brexit didn't cause anything, Brexit happened because our country voted to leave the EU
The fact that “your country” caused Brexit doesn’t change the fact that Brexit caused this issue, it’s just another piece in a cause-effect chain in which UvdL and Article 16 certainly aren’t the root cause but stand at the very end of it.
Just now, vogie said:and you can't get over the fact we have left and have sent our cash cow to pastures new. The bitterness that is displayed by some of the Euros and even some of our very home grown citizens is totally astounding, stop trying to pass the book, the NI protocol was not designed to blackmail NI, the EU have screwed up, why don't you just admit it, but I cannot help thinking that their will be huge repercussions through the actions of a politician who cannot work out the difference between right or wrong.
Whatever you’re fantasizing about today.
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2 minutes ago, vogie said:However which way you want to look at it UvdL has opened a can of worms now. There is total distrust of the EU from both sides of the Irish border, she has basically given the UK carte blanche to do whatever they want with the NI protocol
I would love to see that. Keep it coming. ????
2 minutes ago, vogie said:It would be in the interest of S Ireland now to leave the EU Bloc
Given all the “total distrust” you’re fantasizing about, that must happen soon right?
2 minutes ago, vogie said:But I know you will defend what ever action and foul deeds the EU has in its armoury, but UvdL latest action is going to take some defending.
It was Brexit that caused the issue in the first place, not UvdL or the EU; and it was Brexiteers and the UK who have constantly demonstrated their total disregard for the Northern Ireland issue, so no one is taking your acting seriously, not more than all the other lies and desinformation Brexiteers are known for.
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7 hours ago, Loiner said:
No. It’s was so that we would officially be free of the EU clutches and their extended membership disguised as a Transition Period.
Exactly, like I said, slogans and symbols matter more than being well prepared, the result being that you’re still a quarter in and have to ask for another quarter more.
7 hours ago, Loiner said:Once the contributions have stopped negotiations can continue to resolve these issues.
At least you’re finally admitting that that “clean Brexit” doesn’t exist but turns out to be just another hollow slogan once reality hits.
7 hours ago, Loiner said:Good job he’s catering to Leavers and not those who would pander to the EU. Sorry Fritz but you are so obsessed with trying to claim we should have stayed that you cannot see our result.
Don’t worry Ahmed. It became a great source of entertainment to do a Google news search on “Brexit” every other day to read about your great results. Try it sometimes.
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UK asks EU for Brexit grace period extension to 2023, BBC reports
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It may become relevant when their contractual obligation is to supply you product X by date Y from those manufacturing sites.
That’s your claim that you keep making without providing any evidence. Again, where did the EU contractually agree that the UK shall be supplied before the EU?
You certainly seem agitated.
The EU is taking actions against a contract partner not fulfilling their contractual obligations. That’s what people do when this happens. Has nothing to do with anger, though it certainly is annoying.
Common practice to take other measures first before suing. Maybe you didn’t enter many agreements in your life or you were lucky that you never had to deal with a contractual partner not fulfilling their obligations to you.