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We have 5 of the plug-in units purchased from Tesco. They work great and our home is mosquito free. You will need to replace the cartridges every 60 to 90 days.

Do we really need another thread to tell us YS is guilty of corruption ?

Perhaps you should read the article before you post your reply......just a thought.

The biography of Yingluck Shinawatra according to Wikipedia:

As Chairperson of the rice committee, Yingluck Shinawatra is facing investigation, with Thailand's anti-graft agency who are investigating Yingluck's role in the rice pledging scheme after bringing formal charges of corruption against two of her cabinet ministers. The National Anti-Corruption Commission (NACC) will check to see if she was negligent in her duties as chair of the National Rice Policy Committee.

Despite being chairperson of the rice committee, Yingluck admitted in the 2013 Censure debate against her government that she had never attended meetings of the National Rice Policy Committee.

On May 7, 2014, the Constitutional Court unanimously dismissed Yingluck from office in consequence of the unconstitutional transfer of a top security officer Thawil Pliensri as National Security Council secretary-general in 2011. Thawil was moved from the post in September 2011, paving the way for then police chief Pol Gen Wichean to replace him. Pol Gen Priewpan Damapong, the brother of the former wife of Yingluck's brother Thaksin, succeeded Pol Gen Wichean as police chief. Yingluck argued that Pol Gen Priewpan's appointment was not for the sake of her family because Thaksin had already divorced Potjaman Damapong when the transfer was made.

On May 8, 2014, the National Anti-Corruption Commission (NACC) unanimously agreed to indict Yingluck in the rice-pledging scheme corruption case citing millions of rice farmers who remain unpaid.

The biography of Suthep Thaugsuban according to Wikipedia:

As part of the Sor Por Kor 4-01 land reform scheme, Suthep Thaugsuban gave title deeds to 592 plots of land in Khao Sam Liam, Kamala and Nakkerd hills of Phuket province to 489 farmers. It was later found that members of 11 wealthy families in Phuket were among the recipients. Suthep addressed a huge crowd in his Surat Thani constituency a month before a no-confidence debate and called on his supporters to march on Bangkok in the hundreds of thousands to defend his reputation. The scandal led Prime Minister Chuan Leekpai of the Democrat Party to dissolve the House of Representatives in July 1995 in order to avoid the no-confidence debate. In subsequent elections, Thai Nation Party won a majority, leading to the downfall of Chuan Leekpai's Democrat Party-led government.

Wikileaks diplomatic cables from the US embassy revealed that many members of his own party have long complained of his corrupt and unethical behavior.

In 2009, Suthep was accused of violating the Constitution of Thailand by holding equity in a media firm that had received concessions from the government. Under the 1997 Constitution of Thailand, which Suthep had supported, Members of Parliament are banned from holding stakes in companies which have received government concessions. In July 2009, the Election Commission announced that it would seek a ruling by the Constitutional Court to disqualify Suthep. Suthep held a press conference a day later, announcing his decision to resign from Parliament. Suthep's resignation as an MP did not affect his status as a Deputy Prime Minister and as a Cabinet member. If his case had been submitted to the Constitution Court, he would have been suspended from duty as Deputy Prime Minister. He insisted his resignation was not a proof that he had done anything wrong but that he was worried about status as Deputy Prime Minister.

After several Criminal court rulings that deaths and injuries sustained by red-shirt protesters during the political unrest in April and May 2010 were the direct result of orders to soldiers given by Suthep Thaugsuban, the director of the Resolution of the Emergency Situation (CRES), the Department of Special Investigation, public prosecutors and police agreed to file murder charges against him.

Suthep along with Abhisit was also found responsible by the Court for the assassination of Italian journalist Fabio Polenghi, who was covering the 2010 protests.

These are serious Thai matters. Most of those who read and post here are guests of this country. It is unseemly, ungrateful and downright offensive for guests to interfere or criticise their hosts. This is not a matter of free speech but one of common decency and respect.

Most of the posters come from countries where free speech is a given. They are not disrespecting their hosts when they speak their mind, they are merely acting as if they were still at home.

If the Army does come up with the cash quickly, then it tells you that it was the Army or the people who control the Army that were stopping the cash from reaching the farmers in the first place.

just your biased opinion

it is not a logic consequence

and it is not true

Thank you for setting me straight. I'll be able to sleep soundly tonight.

If the Army does come up with the cash quickly, then it tells you that it was the Army or the people who control the Army that were stopping the cash from reaching the farmers in the first place.

Please read the article again. Self explanatory.

"BAAC president Luck Wajananawat said as the Constitution has been suspended, the bank could disburse from its reserves and the farmers' fund to pay farmers at the earliest following orders from the National Council for Peace and Order."

NOW I understand - suspend the Constitution and cash magically appears. But.......does this cash come the the Easter Bunny or the Tooth Fairy?

If the army actually does pay off the farmers so quickly then its shows just how bad the Shins where are governance and good at inciting trouble... The army look like they have planned this very meticulously and yes, played Taksin at his own game... For the first time in a along while i do think Thailand has a much positive future.... Many events will shape that future but a least the evil one has been cut out of it.

You are joking............right?

tell me what is wrong with this post then...

If the Army does come up with the cash quickly, then it tells you that it was the Army or the people who control the Army that were stopping the cash from reaching the farmers in the first place.

It would appear from Wikipedia's report on "Rice Production in Thailand" that the small rice farmer's current plight is the result of government policies carried out from the 1950's to the mid 1980's. So if you want to find the culprit, ask yourself who controlled the Thai government during that time period.

Key excerpts from the Wikipedia article are as follows:

"The [Thai] government wanted to promote urban growth and one of the ways it accomplished this was by taxing the rice industry and using the money in big cities. In fact, during 1953, tax on rice accounted for 32 percent of government revenue. The government set a monopoly price on exports, which increased tax revenue and kept domestic prices low for Thailand. The overall effect was a type of income transfer from farmers to the government and to urban consumers (who purchased rice). These policies on rice were called the "rice premium," which was used until 1985 when the government finally gave into political pressure. The shift away from protecting the peasant rice farmers by the government moved the rice industry away from the egalitarian values that were enjoyed by farmers to more of a modern-day, commercial, profit-maximizing industry.

A large portion of [Thailand’s rapid] expansion was due to increased production of rice in northeast Thailand. While in the past, central Thailand was the main producer of rice, northeast Thailand quickly caught up to a comparable amount of production. This was in part due to the new road systems between northeast Thailand and the shipping focused cities on the coastline. The villages that had a significant portion of rice production were also changing as farmers went from more subsistence practices to mostly wage labor (exchange labor also virtually disappeared).

Cows were being replaced for tractors to work on the farm and irrigation technology was updated in most villages. The green revolution was just starting to spread among the world’s agricultural industries. Rice farmers and merchants took advantage of new rice varieties, strains, fertilizers, and other technological advances. The International Rice Research Institute (IRRI) was also disseminating knowledge, technology, new rice strains, and other information to rice producers in Thailand. From the 1950s to 1970’s rice production per unit of land increased by almost 50 percent

While all of these advances helped improve overall production of rice in Thailand, many low-income farmers in Thailand were left worse off. Many peasants were unable to hold onto their land that they used to harvest rice and had to become tenants to survive. The government would always expect tax revenue, even during a bad year, and this pushed many low-income farmers even closer to the margin. New technologies also pushed up the entrance cost of rice farming and made it harder for farmers to own their land and produce rice."

If the army actually does pay off the farmers so quickly then its shows just how bad the Shins where are governance and good at inciting trouble... The army look like they have planned this very meticulously and yes, played Taksin at his own game... For the first time in a along while i do think Thailand has a much positive future.... Many events will shape that future but a least the evil one has been cut out of it.

You are joking............right?

"BAAC president Luck Wajananawat said as the Constitution has been suspended, the bank could disburse from its reserves and the farmers' fund to pay farmers at the earliest following orders from the National Council for Peace and Order."

What??? If the constitution is in place then the funds are not available but if the constitution is suspended then they are! Unbelievable even for Thailand.

And what happens to the BAAC if the NCPO defaults on its loan?

Well it least he is beginning to look at paying the farmers. This is a priority that should give him some kudos. The General needs to be seen neutral in this approach. By abolishing the senate and the constitution he can act in a way that can't have much come back on him.

And just where exactly will the Army get the cash to pay the farmers? If the elected government couldn't scrape the cash together, what makes you think that the Army will be able to?

They will be able to borrow it in the same way the government could have done before they dissolved parliament but forgot.

If you put your thinking cap on, you will recall that the government was having a very difficult time borrowing the money. What makes you think that anyone or any institution would lend money to an illegal armed coup? If you believe that is going to happen, then I have a bridge I can sell you at a good price!

Well it least he is beginning to look at paying the farmers. This is a priority that should give him some kudos. The General needs to be seen neutral in this approach. By abolishing the senate and the constitution he can act in a way that can't have much come back on him.

And just where exactly will the Army get the cash to pay the farmers? If the elected government couldn't scrape the cash together, what makes you think that the Army will be able to?

Live by the sword or die by the sword, other than that read the news article that was reporting it.

The news article didn't address the issue from where the cash will come.

Well it least he is beginning to look at paying the farmers. This is a priority that should give him some kudos. The General needs to be seen neutral in this approach. By abolishing the senate and the constitution he can act in a way that can't have much come back on him.

And just where exactly will the Army get the cash to pay the farmers? If the elected government couldn't scrape the cash together, what makes you think that the Army will be able to?

well he is a wanted man for insurrection and sedition so action at last on suthep

I have read no where that Suthep had been detained. Anyone have a factual update?

The title of the thread is a bit of a give away - "PDRC leaders remain".

My point is that the title of the thread is ambiguous. If Suthep was one of the PDRC leaders detained then why wouldn't the article specifically say so unless the intent was to mislead.

well he is a wanted man for insurrection and sedition so action at last on suthep

I have read no where that Suthep had been detained. Anyone have a factual update?

As if nobody seen that coming!! I wonder what that means for the PDRC and UDD protest groups? Get off the streets now and go home??

This is a Ballsy move by Prayuth indeed..

It means that the PDRC will be asked to form a new government.

Most of the charges are "politically motivated" anyway which apparently doesn't count according to Tarit's boss, or just straight up bullying. So they should be suspended or turfed altogether.

Tarit should be the one up on multiple charges. Would love to see him waddling around the yard, ball and chain, breaking rocks.

"Most of the charges are "politically motivated" anyway" - taking your reasoning to its logical conclusion would put Yingluck and her cabinet back into office and rolling out a red carpet for Thaksin's victorious return.

corruption isn't a political reason.

abuse of power would be.

So only half the charges against the Shinawatras are political

Never argue with a fool as the bystanders won't be able to tell who is who.

You have seen and heard the announcements the same as the rest of us. Did you see or hear any mention of bar closing hours changing?

I am actually based in Bangladesh and planning to go to Bangkok for a leisure trip, as I could not find any information through Google made this posting in this travel forum....

Oops - my bad!

You have seen and heard the announcements the same as the rest of us. Did you see or hear any mention of bar closing hours changing?

All the more reason to stop pussyfooting about and dump this bunch of losers and get on with reforms which would have been all but sorted by now had PTP not clung to power.

had PTP not clung to power had democracy not gotten in the way.

Most of the charges are "politically motivated" anyway which apparently doesn't count according to Tarit's boss, or just straight up bullying. So they should be suspended or turfed altogether.

Tarit should be the one up on multiple charges. Would love to see him waddling around the yard, ball and chain, breaking rocks.

"Most of the charges are "politically motivated" anyway" - taking your reasoning to its logical conclusion would put Yingluck and her cabinet back into office and rolling out a red carpet for Thaksin's victorious return.

After a major refurbishment, our local Tesco started playing background music but at ear splitting levels. I asked the manager to turn the volume down and its been halved ever since.

Generally speaking, I find that if you speak to the manager about your problem, if it is in their power to fix it they will.