Mattd

1 minute ago, bbi1 said:

Please explain which non-immigrant visa is suitable for a person under 50, isn't married to a Thai, doesn't work in a company here and only stays here for long-term holidaying?

The only options are the Elite program, an ED or an investment visa.

32 minutes ago, jackdd said:

The reason stamped in his passport actually translates to: Doesn't have basic needs. Or to simplify it: He is impoverished.

This reason is just abused by immigration to deny people who they suspect of working even though they have zero evidence.

Exactly, it is their way of saying we think you work here but cannot prove it.

As I said, you can see the reasoning, a young bloke who is spending large amounts of time in Thailand, how is he supporting himself etc. 

As far as immigration are concerned, the means to stay in Thailand in cases such as this is provided for by the Elite program, I am not saying this is right or wrong, but you can see the logic.

To add to this, the pattern of denials are mostly visitors who make serial visits to Thailand and are under the age of 50.

1 hour ago, SANSAI said:

Yesterday I returned to Chiang Mai from a 6 day trip to Bangkok and Pattaya. and after we returned, my wife, who is the owner of my accommodation here, rang CM Immigration and asked whether she needs to submit a new TM 30. The answer was yes and she should bring a Taxi receipt or boarding passes to show that it is within 24 hours.

This morning we went to Immigration armed with the completed TM30 form, copy of her house book, ID card, my passport, my boarding pass and the original of the previous TM 30 receipt she submitted in February this year.

They kept all the documents, returned the boarding pass which I don't think the I.O. even looked at and the previous original TM30 receipt endorsed with todays' date and an initial. 

The attached notice is on the desk of the I.O.

Your information and the notice contradict each other, the notice states that after the initial notification, a new TM.30 is needed only if the foreigner has been outside of Thailand and returns.

In your case you are saying they needed a new one after returning from visiting another province in Thailand.

And they wonder why people get confused!!

On 9/22/2019 at 6:54 PM, sanemax said:

Unless the kid was born twice , your son cannot have two birth certificates from two Countries .

Not sure why you think that?

Both of my children were born in Thailand, both have British passports, a birth certificate issued by the Thai authorities AND a birth certificate issued by the UK authorities, this is up to the parents, if you so wish, the UK can register the birth with GRO (for outside of Scotland) and you can get a BC from that registration.

Legally speaking, a Thai birth certificate would be accepted in the UK, so long as it is translated and certified.

https://www.gov.uk/register-a-birth 

The WP will need updating with the new company name.

A couple of my colleagues are applying for PR, they will go to CW to formally submit the application tomorrow and have been told that they will be questioned about the application in Thai, they are understandably a little nervous about this mainly they are not sure what to expect.

Does anybody have any recent experience of this? i.e. what kind of questions will be asked and what level of Thai will be expected of the applicants?

1 hour ago, john thom said:

I have a Retirement "visa", It expires Oct 20,2019. Went to my IO here in Sisaket to renew last month. IO officer said I didn't have 12 months of transfers so I should go to laos get a 1 year non O, or A (since not married to my lady ) to build up my transfers.

You do not require a police certificate for a non-O visa application in Laos.

The reference to the differences between being a tourist and living here is bang on in my opinion.

I have lived in Thailand for 30 years, worked here for the last 20 of those 30 years, been married to a Thai, had two sons, unfortunately experiencing one of the bad parts of Thailand in that one of them lost his life in a motorbike accident.

Do I complain about Thais / Thailand, yes, of course I do, but not in a hating way, my complaints are generally based on wanting to improve things and feeling frustration at not being able to etc. etc. By human nature we make comparisons, sometimes without taking in to account cultural differences etc. etc.

There is good and bad in every country, whether it be people or the system, when visiting on a holiday it doesn't bother people that much, when living in a country and it has an effect on your daily life, then you start to complain, I'd complain no more or less in my home country than I would here, it just wouldn't necessarily be about the same things.

So in answer to your question, yes, on the whole I do like Thai people, even if some annoy me sometimes ???? 

1 hour ago, jrmaanda said:

Mattd,

Thanks.  I had no idea I could get an extension in Thailand.  But the big problem remains of where to get the SE non-O? I'm in France, where I am no longer eligible to apply as a no-resident, and it looks at though applying in London won't work either, both because one is supposed to be resident there and because reports say the system is currently in chaos there.

 

What is "EOS" please?

Others can advise on the best embassy or consulate to apply for a non-O visa local to Thailand, there are many options and are often discussed on here.

Sorry EOS = Extension of Stay.

You qualify to apply to extend your permission to stay in Thailand for up to one year, as you are married to a Thai, there are many threads on the forum on how to do this.

One of the main requirements (apart from being married!!) is 400,000 THB in a Thai bank account in your sole name for a minimum of 2 months prior to making the application at the immigration office closest to your home in Thailand, there is the option of 40,000 THB per month income, however, it seems in your case the lump sum of 400,000 is more applicable.

Your wife would need to be with you when you make the application, I am sure that UJ or one of the other members will have a list of the documents / requirements needed to make the application, especially if you can advise which immigration office you would lodge the application to.

Note that you would need to have a re-entry permit prior to departing Thailand to keep the extension of stay alive.

14 minutes ago, jrmaanda said:

You are dashing my last hope

As has been asked, why do you not just obtain a SE non-O visa based on being married to a Thai, deposit 400,000 THB (you could still put the 3 million in if you so wished) in a Thai bank account for 2 months and then apply for a yearly extension of stay based on being married to a Thai, after which apply for a ME re-entry permit?

Strikes me as being a lot cheaper and easier than the route you want to go with the non O-X visa.

The only drawback is renewing the EOS yearly, if you qualify then this isn't that difficult.

You can legally work in Thailand, the issue may be how you enter Thailand.

As you will enter with your German passport, then this MAY present an issue working wise, TBH I am not sure about that part, one thing that will be an issue initially is the period of your permission to stay, you can extend this based on being a Thai Citizen, which at that point I would think you can work.

The process of getting the Thai passport should not take that long, however, you should then reenter the country using the Thai passport.

Employers would definitely want to see and have a copy of your Thai ID card prior to employing you.

On 9/9/2019 at 9:47 PM, AaronC76 said:

how do we prove the money going in to the bank comes from cash given to her to pay for what she sells in the shop?

The best way would be to provide a statement of accounts prepared by a registered accountancy firm.

I'd imagine one of the major concerns for the ECO was the fact that she provided 6 months of bank account statements, which presumably showed deposits, whilst the business registration was dated at the end of May 2019, which you state was a mistake, this needs proving to the ECO, so that they can tie the cash deposits prior to May.

Is the bank account in her name or the name of the business?

She should also show how her business will continue to operate whilst she is in the UK.

2 hours ago, thasoss said:

you really need to be in thailand to know what's really going on.

Dunno about that, there are many who are here that have and will be still fall for scams of every type.

Unfortunately this could cost the OP a lot of money and perhaps his comfort in retirement, there is little chance of him being able to recover the full amount, the old saying 'you cannot get blood out of a stone' is what matters here, if his (hopefully now ex.) GF has no cash or assets in her name.

On 8/29/2019 at 12:41 PM, cheeryble said:

So I walked out with everything stamped up-to-date and the year 63 tax sticker to put in the window.

If they taxed the vehicle for the current year then it must have the compulsory Government insurance, they will not issue the tax without it.

They would have taken the detachable slip off the cover note for the compulsory insurance.

Most major insurance companies will provide the government cover, are you sure that it wasn't included in the cover you purchased?

3 hours ago, madmen said:

Try reading the article. Prayjth is concerned Thailand is a meeting place for terrorists to plan attacks ELSEWHERE

 

Its fact that the 911 terrorists Where in bangkok before flying to LA.

 

The concern is real

The ONLY way to try to combat this would be International collaboration, which I am sure must happen, otherwise none of the barriers they introduce will help.

I am sure that most countries have unwittingly harboured potential terrorists before they actually committed the act, as it is doubtful their bio-metrics such as fingerprints are on file yet, if they are on a watch list of one of the major intelligence organisations then it is possible, perhaps even probable, that facial recognition could play a part in their identification upon entering another country, but this would only work if this info is shared with other countries and entered in to the appropriate database, the issue then becomes who do you share it with, the more countries and therefore people that know, the more likely the potential terrorist will as well!

Personally I have no issues with the use of Bio-metrics for entering a country, most normal people wouldn't.

4 hours ago, NCC1701A said:

it was. the camera is right in front of you on the desk. 

Yes, I know, what I was saying is I cannot recall them taking a picture, normally they tell you to look at the camera.

14 minutes ago, Puchaiyank said:

Each visa position has a camera that looks like a big round black eye...part of the process is to get your pic even though you bring pictures...what could this possibly mean?   ????

This is the same system as when you enter at a border point, I'd imagine it checks the facial image against the original one, having said that, I don't recall whether or not my picture was taken last time I came in to BKK airport, fingerprints were taken, just don't remember if the IO took an image as well.

1 hour ago, MysteryX said:

For others, I think the best advice for short stay is to rent car instead (then no need to worry about international driving license)

What strange advice! A valid license is required to rent the vehicle in the first place, or should be!

To drive a car or ride a motorbike without a valid license is pure madness, I know the locals do so, but any foreigner who thinks that it is some sort of right to do this in a foreign country, must have a screw loose IMHO, I certainly hope you do not have an accident and hurt, or worse still kill someone whilst driving unlicensed.

The police tax is a fine BTW, for not being legal.

I am assuming from your comments that CM DLT will not issue a Thai DL to a foreigner who has a tourist visa, a lot of other areas will issue the 2 year license, even to those on a visa exempt entry, you should look at doing this elsewhere.

8 hours ago, jackdd said:

Unlike the new work permit law, no rulings or guidelines or regulations have been issued excluding business meetings from the definition of work under the new immigration law.

What new immigration law is this so called lawyer referring to?

@elviajero is perfectly correct in his assessment, the DoE have defined that attending a meeting is not considered as work under the new alien labour act and so by definition a non B visa would not be needed, it is not up to immigration to make that definition.

If the OP enters Thailand as a tourist and enter tourism as the purpose, to avoid an IO interpreting things incorrectly, he or she will have no issues whatsoever.

They would be free and entirely entitled to attend a meeting.

43 minutes ago, Yinn said:

My point is the simple tm30 document is more easy to do than even just go your country for a two day holiday.

I do not totally disagree, but this is not the issue, in reality myself and the company I work for do have to jump through hoops to retain my stay in Thailand, this despite contributing a relatively large sum to the country though PIT, this aside, my point is that this is an additional requirement within Thailand is applied AFTER the visa or extension to enter has been granted, no such requirements exist for the majority of other countries.

On a personal level, if this reporting was in force 18 months ago, then I would have had to make a TM.30 twice weekly, with all of the time taken to do this, which would have been at the expense of the Thai company who was employing me at that time and therefore the Thai economy, given that immigration knew where I was employed and where I lived, then it is OTT and it would certainly not be easy to comply.

50 minutes ago, Yinn said:

Yes but but the police must also get the foreign criminal.

Totally agree, unfortunately, in reality, TM.30 reporting won't help there, as the criminals simply would not comply.

51 minutes ago, Yinn said:

If you give me a free visa to go, then no problem.

We give you free visa, you do not give us free visa. We must pay, even if you say no. Scam

The ease of visas for Thais to other countries is not relevant to the subject of TM.30 and it is one that is a completely different subject, one reason for the difference is tourism revenue.

The question I was asking is would the Thai people be happy to comply with reporting their location to the Thai authorities each and every time they moved province or went overseas?

1 hour ago, Max69xl said:

First of all, you are off topic. This thread is about the requirements for hotel/guesthouse owners when reporting a foreigner staying at their place within 24 hours. Not the TM30 you might have to submit.

Second, the address on the TM6 card has nothing to do with the TM30. It's more of an initial/first address in Thailand. You might stay one night in BKK before going to your home somewhere in Thailand or meet friends a couple of days. Then that's the address you are supposed to write on the arrival card.

I was replying to another poster who clearly misunderstands the requirements, both here and overseas, as it implied that Thais have the same issues overseas, visa wise, 100% a hassle for Thais, reporting addresses every movement whilst a Thai is overseas is N/A. Anyway IMO it is on topic, as per your own words, 'This thread is about the requirements for hotel/guesthouse owners when reporting a foreigner staying at their place within 24 hours.'

A Hotel or a guesthouses report is a TM.30 report, in exactly the same sense as an individual, apart form the method of reporting and they were fined for not reporting, the new individual online system is an adaptation of the system hotels etc. use and have done for years.

I agree that the TM.6 is the initial address and not all continue at that address, however, I think that several additional address reports are way OTT, especially in your example, as it would be likely to be hotel for that first night, who would (should) report you and the assumption would be that the long termer would go to their address afterwards, which will have been registered in to the system on several occasions prior.

23 hours ago, Yinn said:

If thai can go to your country and must not have fill out document, then I will help you ask the thai government to do same for you. Is fair.

Khun Yinn, respectfully, you are missing the point somewhat.

Firstly, very few other countries have this requirement once you are actually in the country, those that do tend to be those who have less freedom for all, including their own citizens.

The TM. 30 requirement isn't anything to do with having to obtain a visa or similar to enter initially, it is a requirement AFTER entering the country and in some cases when a foreigner goes from one province to another for longer than 24 hours.

Remembering that EVERY entry in to Thailand is registered in to the immigration system, both electronically and by paper in the form of the TM.6, which has an address on it, a further address report is superfluous, especially if it is done manually on paper. (A trip to CW immigration might open your eyes on how much, mainly useless, paperwork is generated hourly, it really is quite unbelievable!!) 

Now it is taken for granted that of course Thai people have the right to live anywhere in Thailand, this is wholly without dispute.

However, as would be the case in EVERY other country in the world, the majority of crime committed will be by a citizen, not by a foreigner.

Using the logic of it is for 'national security' that they must enforce the TM.30 reporting on foreigners, then the same logic should be applied across the board, i.e. to Thai citizens as well, especially as the vast majority of Thai people do live and work in a different area to their birth province and a good majority of those are registered in a Tabien Bahn outside of where they now reside, so there is no record of their whereabouts.

I now ask, if this reporting were applied to you as a Thai, how would you feel, would you comply happily, would your fellow citizens be happy?

I would doubt very much that it is the TV is a major consumer, a TV as per yours would consume about 80 watts per hour, so if on for 12 hours a day it would only use just less than 1 unit, on standby it will be mW of power needed.

For those that didn't know, electricity prices have risen progressively this year

Current pricing here (PEA same prices) - http://www.mea.or.th/en/profile/109/111