Mattd

1 hour ago, jrmaanda said:

Mattd,

Thanks.  I had no idea I could get an extension in Thailand.  But the big problem remains of where to get the SE non-O? I'm in France, where I am no longer eligible to apply as a no-resident, and it looks at though applying in London won't work either, both because one is supposed to be resident there and because reports say the system is currently in chaos there.

 

What is "EOS" please?

Others can advise on the best embassy or consulate to apply for a non-O visa local to Thailand, there are many options and are often discussed on here.

Sorry EOS = Extension of Stay.

You qualify to apply to extend your permission to stay in Thailand for up to one year, as you are married to a Thai, there are many threads on the forum on how to do this.

One of the main requirements (apart from being married!!) is 400,000 THB in a Thai bank account in your sole name for a minimum of 2 months prior to making the application at the immigration office closest to your home in Thailand, there is the option of 40,000 THB per month income, however, it seems in your case the lump sum of 400,000 is more applicable.

Your wife would need to be with you when you make the application, I am sure that UJ or one of the other members will have a list of the documents / requirements needed to make the application, especially if you can advise which immigration office you would lodge the application to.

Note that you would need to have a re-entry permit prior to departing Thailand to keep the extension of stay alive.

14 minutes ago, jrmaanda said:

You are dashing my last hope

As has been asked, why do you not just obtain a SE non-O visa based on being married to a Thai, deposit 400,000 THB (you could still put the 3 million in if you so wished) in a Thai bank account for 2 months and then apply for a yearly extension of stay based on being married to a Thai, after which apply for a ME re-entry permit?

Strikes me as being a lot cheaper and easier than the route you want to go with the non O-X visa.

The only drawback is renewing the EOS yearly, if you qualify then this isn't that difficult.

You can legally work in Thailand, the issue may be how you enter Thailand.

As you will enter with your German passport, then this MAY present an issue working wise, TBH I am not sure about that part, one thing that will be an issue initially is the period of your permission to stay, you can extend this based on being a Thai Citizen, which at that point I would think you can work.

The process of getting the Thai passport should not take that long, however, you should then reenter the country using the Thai passport.

Employers would definitely want to see and have a copy of your Thai ID card prior to employing you.

On 9/9/2019 at 9:47 PM, AaronC76 said:

how do we prove the money going in to the bank comes from cash given to her to pay for what she sells in the shop?

The best way would be to provide a statement of accounts prepared by a registered accountancy firm.

I'd imagine one of the major concerns for the ECO was the fact that she provided 6 months of bank account statements, which presumably showed deposits, whilst the business registration was dated at the end of May 2019, which you state was a mistake, this needs proving to the ECO, so that they can tie the cash deposits prior to May.

Is the bank account in her name or the name of the business?

She should also show how her business will continue to operate whilst she is in the UK.

2 hours ago, thasoss said:

you really need to be in thailand to know what's really going on.

Dunno about that, there are many who are here that have and will be still fall for scams of every type.

Unfortunately this could cost the OP a lot of money and perhaps his comfort in retirement, there is little chance of him being able to recover the full amount, the old saying 'you cannot get blood out of a stone' is what matters here, if his (hopefully now ex.) GF has no cash or assets in her name.

On 8/29/2019 at 12:41 PM, cheeryble said:

So I walked out with everything stamped up-to-date and the year 63 tax sticker to put in the window.

If they taxed the vehicle for the current year then it must have the compulsory Government insurance, they will not issue the tax without it.

They would have taken the detachable slip off the cover note for the compulsory insurance.

Most major insurance companies will provide the government cover, are you sure that it wasn't included in the cover you purchased?

3 hours ago, madmen said:

Try reading the article. Prayjth is concerned Thailand is a meeting place for terrorists to plan attacks ELSEWHERE

 

Its fact that the 911 terrorists Where in bangkok before flying to LA.

 

The concern is real

The ONLY way to try to combat this would be International collaboration, which I am sure must happen, otherwise none of the barriers they introduce will help.

I am sure that most countries have unwittingly harboured potential terrorists before they actually committed the act, as it is doubtful their bio-metrics such as fingerprints are on file yet, if they are on a watch list of one of the major intelligence organisations then it is possible, perhaps even probable, that facial recognition could play a part in their identification upon entering another country, but this would only work if this info is shared with other countries and entered in to the appropriate database, the issue then becomes who do you share it with, the more countries and therefore people that know, the more likely the potential terrorist will as well!

Personally I have no issues with the use of Bio-metrics for entering a country, most normal people wouldn't.

4 hours ago, NCC1701A said:

it was. the camera is right in front of you on the desk. 

Yes, I know, what I was saying is I cannot recall them taking a picture, normally they tell you to look at the camera.

14 minutes ago, Puchaiyank said:

Each visa position has a camera that looks like a big round black eye...part of the process is to get your pic even though you bring pictures...what could this possibly mean?   ????

This is the same system as when you enter at a border point, I'd imagine it checks the facial image against the original one, having said that, I don't recall whether or not my picture was taken last time I came in to BKK airport, fingerprints were taken, just don't remember if the IO took an image as well.

1 hour ago, MysteryX said:

For others, I think the best advice for short stay is to rent car instead (then no need to worry about international driving license)

What strange advice! A valid license is required to rent the vehicle in the first place, or should be!

To drive a car or ride a motorbike without a valid license is pure madness, I know the locals do so, but any foreigner who thinks that it is some sort of right to do this in a foreign country, must have a screw loose IMHO, I certainly hope you do not have an accident and hurt, or worse still kill someone whilst driving unlicensed.

The police tax is a fine BTW, for not being legal.

I am assuming from your comments that CM DLT will not issue a Thai DL to a foreigner who has a tourist visa, a lot of other areas will issue the 2 year license, even to those on a visa exempt entry, you should look at doing this elsewhere.

8 hours ago, jackdd said:

Unlike the new work permit law, no rulings or guidelines or regulations have been issued excluding business meetings from the definition of work under the new immigration law.

What new immigration law is this so called lawyer referring to?

@elviajero is perfectly correct in his assessment, the DoE have defined that attending a meeting is not considered as work under the new alien labour act and so by definition a non B visa would not be needed, it is not up to immigration to make that definition.

If the OP enters Thailand as a tourist and enter tourism as the purpose, to avoid an IO interpreting things incorrectly, he or she will have no issues whatsoever.

They would be free and entirely entitled to attend a meeting.

43 minutes ago, Yinn said:

My point is the simple tm30 document is more easy to do than even just go your country for a two day holiday.

I do not totally disagree, but this is not the issue, in reality myself and the company I work for do have to jump through hoops to retain my stay in Thailand, this despite contributing a relatively large sum to the country though PIT, this aside, my point is that this is an additional requirement within Thailand is applied AFTER the visa or extension to enter has been granted, no such requirements exist for the majority of other countries.

On a personal level, if this reporting was in force 18 months ago, then I would have had to make a TM.30 twice weekly, with all of the time taken to do this, which would have been at the expense of the Thai company who was employing me at that time and therefore the Thai economy, given that immigration knew where I was employed and where I lived, then it is OTT and it would certainly not be easy to comply.

50 minutes ago, Yinn said:

Yes but but the police must also get the foreign criminal.

Totally agree, unfortunately, in reality, TM.30 reporting won't help there, as the criminals simply would not comply.

51 minutes ago, Yinn said:

If you give me a free visa to go, then no problem.

We give you free visa, you do not give us free visa. We must pay, even if you say no. Scam

The ease of visas for Thais to other countries is not relevant to the subject of TM.30 and it is one that is a completely different subject, one reason for the difference is tourism revenue.

The question I was asking is would the Thai people be happy to comply with reporting their location to the Thai authorities each and every time they moved province or went overseas?

1 hour ago, Max69xl said:

First of all, you are off topic. This thread is about the requirements for hotel/guesthouse owners when reporting a foreigner staying at their place within 24 hours. Not the TM30 you might have to submit.

Second, the address on the TM6 card has nothing to do with the TM30. It's more of an initial/first address in Thailand. You might stay one night in BKK before going to your home somewhere in Thailand or meet friends a couple of days. Then that's the address you are supposed to write on the arrival card.

I was replying to another poster who clearly misunderstands the requirements, both here and overseas, as it implied that Thais have the same issues overseas, visa wise, 100% a hassle for Thais, reporting addresses every movement whilst a Thai is overseas is N/A. Anyway IMO it is on topic, as per your own words, 'This thread is about the requirements for hotel/guesthouse owners when reporting a foreigner staying at their place within 24 hours.'

A Hotel or a guesthouses report is a TM.30 report, in exactly the same sense as an individual, apart form the method of reporting and they were fined for not reporting, the new individual online system is an adaptation of the system hotels etc. use and have done for years.

I agree that the TM.6 is the initial address and not all continue at that address, however, I think that several additional address reports are way OTT, especially in your example, as it would be likely to be hotel for that first night, who would (should) report you and the assumption would be that the long termer would go to their address afterwards, which will have been registered in to the system on several occasions prior.

23 hours ago, Yinn said:

If thai can go to your country and must not have fill out document, then I will help you ask the thai government to do same for you. Is fair.

Khun Yinn, respectfully, you are missing the point somewhat.

Firstly, very few other countries have this requirement once you are actually in the country, those that do tend to be those who have less freedom for all, including their own citizens.

The TM. 30 requirement isn't anything to do with having to obtain a visa or similar to enter initially, it is a requirement AFTER entering the country and in some cases when a foreigner goes from one province to another for longer than 24 hours.

Remembering that EVERY entry in to Thailand is registered in to the immigration system, both electronically and by paper in the form of the TM.6, which has an address on it, a further address report is superfluous, especially if it is done manually on paper. (A trip to CW immigration might open your eyes on how much, mainly useless, paperwork is generated hourly, it really is quite unbelievable!!) 

Now it is taken for granted that of course Thai people have the right to live anywhere in Thailand, this is wholly without dispute.

However, as would be the case in EVERY other country in the world, the majority of crime committed will be by a citizen, not by a foreigner.

Using the logic of it is for 'national security' that they must enforce the TM.30 reporting on foreigners, then the same logic should be applied across the board, i.e. to Thai citizens as well, especially as the vast majority of Thai people do live and work in a different area to their birth province and a good majority of those are registered in a Tabien Bahn outside of where they now reside, so there is no record of their whereabouts.

I now ask, if this reporting were applied to you as a Thai, how would you feel, would you comply happily, would your fellow citizens be happy?

I would doubt very much that it is the TV is a major consumer, a TV as per yours would consume about 80 watts per hour, so if on for 12 hours a day it would only use just less than 1 unit, on standby it will be mW of power needed.

For those that didn't know, electricity prices have risen progressively this year

Current pricing here (PEA same prices) - http://www.mea.or.th/en/profile/109/111

26 minutes ago, Macthehat said:

Thanks for your help , just one thing I was concerned about was I am not married and was wondering would I need a DNA test done to prove to trendy office the child is mine or is his birth cert enough along with mine and my GFs ? I cant see anything on the site detailing this . .. thanks again

As your son was born after 1st July 2006 then there is no requirement for you to be married nor will any DNA test be required.

Follow the guidance in this document, paying particular attention to tables A & C.

I assume that you are named as the Father on his Thai birth certificate? This will need translating in to English, as will any other Thai documents, as has been mentioned before by other posters.

OS_Guidance_G3_10.16.pdf

11 minutes ago, Handsome Gardener said:

Eh ? Why ?

 

Guarantor's are only involved for someone who has bad credit and cannot get the loan on their own

Wrong!

A lot of finance companies / banks here require a guarantor, especially for a foreigner, credit rating has nothing to do with it.

I have financed several cars here and had to provide a guarantor before, if you increase the percentage of deposit, then the requirement can go away.

OP, your post makes little sense, why walk away from the car / loan, which is immoral, you can sell the vehicle, even if it only pays off the finance, although TBH taking a loan of 6 years duration for a car is not a good idea and suggests that the monthly loan payments needed to be low and therefore there may not be any equity in the car.

4 minutes ago, Cyclenshaven said:

Correct, I have a B visa that's valid for 1 year. I thought it would be the same for a 1 year O visa. 

Currently I am making about 50k THB but next year (after I get my O visa), I am looking to do something else for a while which might result in lower or no income for a certain period. 

You currently have an extension of stay that is valid for one year, it is NOT a B visa, it is an extension of stay based on work, that is extending the permission to stay of the original entry on the B visa, do not mix the two up, it is important.

If you want to change to an O visa, then you need to get a SE O visa overseas, then enter Thailand, you will get 90 days permission to stay, in the last 30 days of this permission to stay, go to an immigration office in the area you live and apply to extend your permission to stay for 12 months based on marriage, others have already explained the criteria required for this, i.e. money in the bank etc.

The PR application process and timing will be interrupted, there is nothing you can do about this, unless you continue to work as you are now and extend based on work for another two years, plus the time taken to process the PR application, which can be a long time.

Depends on your company size, type and location, for example BOI / IEAT work permits are easy to get with the correct documentation.

27 minutes ago, Cyclenshaven said:

You mean I can't leave the country? Maybe I'm confused by your wording. My goal is to get a 1 year multi entry O visa, and then get my O visa extended yearly until I'm eligible to get a PR. I'm not planning on leaving the country and getting a new visa every 90 days. I live in Thailand officially and only go out of the country a few times a year.

You do not need to get a ME O visa, in fact they way you describe it above, then you do not want a ME O visa, with a ME O visa you would HAVE to leave the country every 90 days.

Get a SE O visa and extend this based on marriage, get a ME reentry permit for those few times a year out of the country.

29 minutes ago, Cyclenshaven said:

Currently, I get my visa extended at the Immigration office every 90 days, unless I'm leaving the country for travel or business before the 90 days are up.

No, currently you are reporting your address every 90 days, your extension of stay will have been valid for one year.

Note for PR application, then the rule is 3 consecutive extensions of stay, so 3 years, plus 3 years of Thai income tax payments, from a previous post, you said you could not extend based on 40k THB per month earnings within Thailand for the O visa extension of stay based on marriage?

The two are not connected, your 90 day report is due 89 days after arrival in to Thailand or after the last 90 day report.