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it must be all a conjure by the yellows in yellow style, look, even the smileys are clearly implied as their colour will show you -->>

mmmm... it sounds like if the drivers are now taking their whole family along at some point during the ride....

Bikes in Thailand: First Beer Engine On The Isle Of Man.....so may i assume that the Isle of Man has already been annexed to Thailand, that's actually a great news guys, considering the current british economy (ie: GBP) that's surely one of the best things i heard since the Islas Malvinas changed name!

mheee-mee thinks it sounds like a very cheese idea! hope you find the right person.

Bina, there is already at least one or two companies making buffalo cheese locally, however i won't really suggest anyone to buy them, try the imported ones if you like a good taste, but they don't come cheap...

i heards King Cobras find rats really yummy, so i would just release a fews of them on the affected area, however if the rats are already too fat you can always switch to a python, if the hiss sound doesn't bother you, local remedies are always cheaper then chemicals or just hiring an external company.

Do a search on google regarding fxcm and lockouts. Sometimes the fx brokers will put you on lockout to stop you from locking in a profit on some trade.

yes i totally agree, just do some research and you will see that the most of the bucketshops around will just blame your connection, pc, etc, is a very common scapegoat for them, please have a look into this website and add your personal experience if you can, thanks, http://www.forexpeacearmy.com/public/forex_broker_reviews

we need a volunteer here to check whom of you is actually right, anyone available?

ehmm i don't see how my expectations would be unreasonable, if you go to make any kind of purchase, would you see paying for what you pay unreasonable just because there is someone around selling the same product at a much higher price? sorry i cannot agree with this kind of views, however i agree with the fact that due the high levels of dishonesty around we really have to be carefull, the company in question offer free consultation and it's boasting up the fact that they can match the big ones on the sector on just a fraction of the price, quoting this as one of their main reason to be succesful on that field, but IMO i believe the real reason they are accumulating profits are very different from what they say and i am a living proof of it...

those validly charging a much higher price to which i refer are NOT selling the same thing as the firm you instructed - they are selling what you apparently wanted

- ok, then is surely a case of a honest misunderstanding and they are not aware that they are advertising for services they couldn't really provide, they are so genuinely convinced of this that they will even confirm the service are the same if you ask, thank you TW you have now convinced me that was absolutely no intention from this company to mislead customers and cheat by stealing money in providing you with "legal papers" worth less than my honoured toilette paper, great!

no matter what this firm may have told you i personally would not have believed them if they had said they will advise you on your options and draft a decent lease that protects your position for the fee quoted

- as above

if i offer you a kilo of gold for 10baht - who is REALLY at fault if you buy the painted lead that i am actually selling?

- i have seen people with temporary or permanent financial problems ending up selling valued items worth much more than a kilo of real gold and i can't really say that it was a good deal for them, however this company doesn't seems to be so disperate as yet, i will see more their strategy as the one of a "dishonest" supermarket

you got what you paid for - yes any promises they made may well stick in your throat - it appears you have not learnt from your mistake and will likely repeat it and similar

-i am sorry but i am not the kind of person that will simply accept a scam by doing nothing and giveing these crappy people one more reason to even increase their actions, anyway TW i think LOS really love people with your mentality

that is a shame

- it seems we really got opposite opinions of what should be a shame.....

i will not labour that point anymore

reconsider the deal and your approach to it or you WILL get burnt

good luck

- thanks for your efforts, even if i might not really agree with your thought i appreciated the time you have taken to show me your way of life, i believe in something that someone will address as "karma", you do good and you get good, do bad and you will get what you deserve in a way or another....amen

I have never looked for it but I want some baking soda.. where can I get it? What is it called?

Seems to be a good cleaning agent as I want to stop using toxic cleaners and be a bit more green........

Yes, last time i saw bicarbonate of soda at Villa Market in BKK, check on the shelf were you can find other home baking ingredients, cheers.

well my dog kind of "freaks out" only when he see me browsing pages on ThaiVisa, i am not sure why?

.....A redneck by definition would not live in a country with brown skinned inhabitants.

mmmmm

Question: are Chavs a kind of British redneck?

have a look by yourself.....

ehmm i don't see how my expectations would be unreasonable, if you go to make any kind of purchase, would you see paying for what you pay unreasonable just because there is someone around selling the same product at a much higher price? sorry i cannot agree with this kind of views, however i agree with the fact that due the high levels of dishonesty around we really have to be carefull, the company in question offer free consultation and it's boasting up the fact that they can match the big ones on the sector on just a fraction of the price, quoting this as one of their main reason to be succesful on that field, but IMO i believe the real reason they are accumulating profits are very different from what they say and i am a living proof of it...

Thaiwanderer, i am usually very cautious about giveing money to strangers, i try to look for possibles bad experiences from others around but i couldn't find any, when i try myself to make one i saw it mysteriously disappear, the best i could do is have a conversation in person with these people and they wanted the money BEFORE they would do anything, what precautions should i have taken? it was either a take it or leave it and only now i understand why they wanted the money before..... The reason to pay for a lawyer is meant to be exactly for avoiding that "elephant trap" you are talking about, if that was not clear already....

I will try not to be blunt, regardless of what they told you the fee you paid was never in a million years going to protect you from anything.

If you are set on proceeding with this deal and do not trust my assessment of it as it currently appears so be it. In any event I would suggest you engage a decent law firm to advise you on the deal, take your instructions / answer any of yor questions and then IF you still want to proceed have them draft the appropriate documents and act for you on the registration.

However with all due respect given your sticker shock on the (lets be plain) measly fee for a bog standard pro forma contract you are unlikely to want to do that. By all means do it on the cheap but you WILL most likely lose ALL your outlay sooner than you were expecting.

To put it plainly the deal stinks at the moment.

I am not having a go at you at all but it seems you are avoiding fact of the real issue without protecting yourself from its danger. Now is not the time for the head in sand approach I am afraid.

....so according to your words it's seems to be no way to avoid being ripped off and loose everything unless i pay in cash the whole sum i am intending to use for the renovation of the place, just under a new denomination : lawyer's fee .....mmm ok i will have a thought or two about it

If the guy is called Chris, who used to have the sugarcane bar in HH Then I have had many a drink bought by him when I stayed in HH. Always found him to be OK? He had a crazy Thai wife who kept attacking him but apart from that an OK guy.

You joined to tell us this only ?

......mmmmm i don't think there is an option to post messages whithout joining or am i wrong? thanks to the op that taked the time to register to share his info, whatever good or bad they might be

reason for editing: corrected mispell

Hi Kamalabob2, as i said i checked the rates with others lawyers before to choose the more expansive i could find, plans were anyway once the agreement was completed to my satisfaction, to pay 1 or 2 other lawyers to double check the document in question would not arise problems i was not aware of and the original lawyer could have just hyde, but this lawyer seems to be way too obvious to even write on front of your face those silly things, so i didn't went that far. There is no way i would be "at the mercy of the landlord" as i don't care if at the end of those 10 years that lease would be renowed or not, i might well be the one that doesn't want to stay any longer but i might as well be happy to extend it if we find an agreement, easy! Another thing i find hilaryous is the way the lawyers were so stubborn on some clause that were just mired to cause me some sort of disvantage, their excuse was " oh the landlord might find this contract too bad for him.." for cod sake (building is in Pattaya)!, just leave the Landlord decide for himself! i am the one paying for everything and if he's not happy on something i am sure he will address it to me so we can add the necessary adjustments if any....also please note that as already pointed out some of the previouses comments was made on wrong assumptions, thanks

Thaiwanderer, i am usually very cautious about giveing money to strangers, i try to look for possibles bad experiences from others around but i couldn't find any, when i try myself to make one i saw it mysteriously disappear, the best i could do is have a conversation in person with these people and they wanted the money BEFORE they would do anything, what precautions should i have taken? it was either a take it or leave it and only now i understand why they wanted the money before..... The reason to pay for a lawyer is meant to be exactly for avoiding that "elephant trap" you are talking about, if that was not clear already....

1 The first place goes to BARILLA , undiscussed winner in any country

2 second position is for AGNESI because here in Los is difficult to find other italian brands

3,4,5,6,.....others

as all big brands they come in a multitudes of different flavours, my favourite is "Amatriciana" which basically is tomatoes and bacon but i also really like "Ragu' alla Bolognese" often shortened as just "Bolognese", especially abroad, which is made with tomatoes and minced meat, beware of mispelling in labels for italian names, if they don't know how to write it i doubt they will know how to cook it

I think he got abducted by a UFO shaped as a durian, but i might be wrong on that, not sure on who can give you some more info

i am sorry, if you can truly look yourself in the mirror and honestly declare that you expected that fee to give you a good lease with professional liability back up the i will merely have to accept the scale of your indignation

as to the deal itself:

you still going ahead?

what fee are you looking at paying for a good lease without such a disclaimer?

registering it?

how long?

That's what they have been offering for that price, feel free to contact them if this upset you so much, what can i say to you? i have been honest so i expect others to be the same, is this so bad for you? ......is your name Greg by any chances ?

Thaiwanderer, the drafted agreement has never been accepted as it's been a total mess (to not say just rubbish) since the very beginning, so totally useless to me, this company seems to be dealing with a multitudes of different areas that stretch from LAWYERS (not just legal services eh?) to burritos, i am not aware of the diamonds, have you bought jewellery from them? i would suggest to stay far away from anything that came out of this company, being now fully aware of what kind of business "ethics" they use

I purchased on April 27 at the P.S Telekom Shop of Khun Jelo at Tukcom, Pattaya, a Bluetooth headset Bluetrek ST1.

After only two hours of normal usage, the unit is broken on my way to Bangkok in the morning of April 28. There was no unusual usage, it happened when I wanted to put the device on my ears as described in the manual.

As soon as I was back in Pattaya (i.e. today), I went back to the shop where I bought the device and asked for either my money back or a replacement. As a first reaction, the staff started laughing at me. When I made it clear that I cannot see the humor in this, the staff tried to get a hold of my bill and it took some effort to get it back out of his clenched fist.

The person became then extremely unfriendly and resorted to foul language that I do not want to repeat here.

The Manager Miss Jelo was of not much help either and threatened me with the police.

I contacted now the distributor and keep you posted.

Thanks for the reporting Raro, i have been there is the past and i will make sure to not to walk there again, you did well, all these dishonest people really need to be aware that their actions are not welcome, too many people just let them do whatever they likes freely and if they see they can make easy cash like that without even a complaint, what is going to stop them? they not deserves any better

- If you were considering buying a motorbike would you expect Somchai the tin shed bike repair man to take a look at it for you, give an opinion and then stand by your decision to buy the bike and make massive improvements to it? Your expectations are simply way off. The fee you have paid is very very small and your expectations for it very very large. Ask for a refund by all means (good luck) but you are never going to get a legal firm to match your expectations for that fee. Even if they did remove the disclaimer what then? The landlord kicks you out / breaches the contract and you then sue the landlord and the legal firm - you are then in a contract dispute with the legal firm. Good luck getting an order they are liable and even more good luck successfully enforcing it. To be honest for the fee I would EXPECT that the lease does not protect you against the landlord. Why go into it knowing YOU have not taken reasonable precautions to protect yourself because you are not willing to pay the going rate for what YOU want?

Well if someone offer to me something, we discussed in details about it and then he could not do what he said, why i should accept it? we had an agreement and we know exactly what we wanted, if then one of the parts think to be clever than the other by not caring anymore about the previous agreement then be prepared for some consequencies, did my money where not good? i didn't see anyone complaining, surely i would have considered adjustments if i knew what they were up to, i understand what you mean but i still give people a chance to be honests

- Then why talk of 3 + 3 + 3 + 1 year? I am very confused. Why not register a 10 year lease (or longer) at the outset? Can I ask are you paying a lawyer (would suggest if you are then not the one you have a bad experience with already) to act for you on the registration? And how cheaply are you hoping to do that for? Remember its about protecting yourself, you can rely on professionals to a certain degree but there comes a point where you have to take your own view on the risks you are incurring. Your frustration at the current loss of the very small lawyer fee would pale into insignificance when you lose your lease fee and improvement costs.

Because this is the lenght the "legal expert" quoted to be valid in front of the law, according to him we could not register anything that goes over the 3 years at a time, and not registering at the Land Office then it would made the contract valid for just 1 year, indipendently by whatever else we could write on top of that 1 year, so the registration was a necessity for me, we agreed verbally that once the first step would be concluded to a satisfactory level (the draft of the contract), then i would have paid him for the Land Office part but as you are all aware off, we got stuck on the very first part.....

- You have received a shoddy service, get over it. Try to get your money back but am sure you have spent the fee already in your own time (I probably have aswell ). Your priority now should be protecting your position and to be honest from what you have said that would probably entail walking away from the deal entirely now.

Yes but the "shoddy service" has been described as the best service this company could offer, checked personally by him, the managing director.... i am not really upset about losing a night out worth of cash but by the way some people think to fool you and is even more upsetting when you see that whoes stand on top of it should not really have any issues understanding what you mean and see where the problem is, obviously if is all a calculated scam then he would have some problems at repairing it...and more i read around about him, the more i am getting convinced by this very bad last idea of what it is, as someone who condone corruption it's corrupted of his own

- And presumably this is adequately covered in the lease that has been prepared on the extreme cheap by a legal firm that do not sound the best?

yes this point was missed by them but promptly reminded, again cheap or not cheap that's not the point

- Well presumably you are definitely entering a 10 year registered lease then (as question above) and the lease price is significantly less than for 30 years? If my understanding is correct you are paying 1million THB for 10 years and paying 1-2 million THB for improvements - is so I would want to make sure the lease gave me adequate protection and then I would want to consider again is it really worth spending that on improvements for a place of that standard (whether I can take those improvements with me or not).

In my opinion is worthed but all these dishonest people around really make you think twice about it, and not just this one but any investments, TIT.

- Please also see my previous post about your other options about renting, long registered leasing or buying a place that that does not need the improvements already - at least then for the same cost you can get the same standard of property (and for the latter two) with some value left in it after 10 years - whats the hassle of renting an already improved property or having an asset to dispose of after 10 years compared to doing the improvements yourself, not having anything after 10 years and maybe not even having anything after you have carried out the improvements. As I said earlier unless you absolutely must have this particular property I would walk away from this deal FAST.

yes and maybe using the same firm as a broker too....thanks but no thanks

-Well you wanted a lot for a little. IMHO you got the lease contract commensurate with the fee you paid. Use it at your own risk. And I will say again reconsider the deal as a whole again.

I have surely reconsidered my opinion about this company i had the misfortune to deal with, i hired them because they advertise theirself as a company that can take the risks of your back but in fact they just deceive you big times, beware and thanks for your comments anyway

Just as a note of interest, especially for all of those that think by paying a "little" you can not get what is advertised, the owner of the company in question released an interview were he state that he taked advantage of the fact that no big lawyers were offering services for the rate he does, so in fact giving a guarantee to obtain the SAME SERVICES as by paying the best ones, now you can work out his declaration.....

you get what you pay for and unfortunately 10000thb pays for a pro forma contract (and not a very good one either)

depending on the lawyer thats the charge out rate for about one hour (i doubt a lawyer even looked at the file)

I do agree to that. Expect to pay in the order of 4,000 to 6,000 baht per hour for a top Thai lawyer.

Sorry but i think you are missing the point, what i think, whatever is the price, 1 satang or 100 millions, if they offer such a service for that price they should just mantein what they say, what cost they will run to or others are offering is none of my business, you say you can do it for that price, then be it, otherways just give back what you do not deserve as in the best of the options you are just misleading a customer, do you think i am wrong to put it on this way?