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3 hours ago, sandyf said:Garbage, there are very few countries not in a trading bloc.
So many Brexiteers do not have the faintest idea, how the wold changed since Lord Kitchiner passed away.
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10 hours ago, JonnyF said:
Reasonable? Are you serious? There is nothing reasonable about what the EU is proposing.
Thank god we won in 2016
. Well done, UK electorate. Good riddance to the EU.
The best Brexit cartoon ever.
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When you want to do business in any country, you have to do that in accordance with the laws of that country. And in case of de despite, go to the court in that country.
OR make an agreement, both can live with.
The EU simply ask an equal "playing field for all". So, no special tax advantages for British exporters into the EU, no social / wage/tax regulations for workers to reduce production costs, no environmental arrangements, allowing British manufacturers to dump fabrication wastes, and same safety regulations ( CE rules, no poisonous paint on toys, etc, just as the EU now is able to block "Chinese" goods, when not safe enough). Same for foods, etc etc etc. inclusive anti-dumping regulations.
And in case there is a disagreement, a court to be competent to make a judgement about the problem.
These the British reject, as will make British industry etc still to work under the rules of the EU.
Last point: the British want to cancel all fishing quota sold by the British to EU fishermen, without any compensation.
There will be no solution.
Maybe the British are allowed to sell in ... Thailand with completely ignoring Thai laws and regulations ?
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7 hours ago, vogie said:Nobody has ever told Scotland what to do, the Scots themselves have chosen to stay within the UK, those are the facts, I'm sorry if it hurts you so much to face them.
chosen to stay within the UK, ... as a part of the EU. Now the UK left the EU, completely against the will of the Scots, it's a new ballgame. therefore 58% of the Scots are in favour of independance.
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10 hours ago, wombat said:
Is this where you keep voting untill you get the result you want?
Complete new situation = departure against the majority of the Scots is a very good reason for a new referendum, as the situation has changed so dramatically. How Boris wants to stop the Scots ( and the Northern Irish, maybe even the Welch)? Sending in the troops ? Lord Kitchiner passed away already a century ago. Same Lord French.
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1 hour ago, natway09 said:
The UK is in for 10 years of pain, unless you are a wealthy Brit
As the English so overwhelmingly voted for and confirmed by voting Boris Cummings again in Dec '19. Just a 31 days, and all from the UK is a "WTO-Third Country". Not only going inside the EU, but also a lot of countries the EU has agreements of. For instance: cars / lorries, whatever machines: when all components are over 90% of EU origin, it is imported there under the EU treaties for instance road building devices into Nigeria. UK outside the EU, and... no treaty, so the full WTO import duties.
I wish you good luck with your fish quota, you first sold to EU fishermen, and you now want to confiscate back. Do not forget the EU allowance numbers when you want to export your fish into the EU.
Curious who the Australians are going to trust ? The British, who betrayed them so much when they slipped into the EU in 1973 as the "Poor man of Europe"?
A few months ago the EU in the French port of Calais did a trial with the new software: just 70 seconds to verify the documents of the incoming lorries. Result: a 7 km traffic jam.
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5 hours ago, vogie said:I have news for you, I didn't sign it, other than that you have a complete fixation on the WA, nobody is interested in what you personally think, Boris will do what is best for our nation and not what is best for the EU, sorry you don't like it, not. May started all this nonsense and Boris is still trying to unravel the mess she caused, we will not, repeat, will not trap ourselves into a situation where it would be difficult to negotiate our way out. As I said I am not interested in what you think only what will be benificial to our country and you can go on about for as long as you like as it will not make a blind bit of difference at the end of the day. Here is Andrea Leadsom talking about, I sure you won't take it on board, you never listen to what people tell you.
This British attitude is MY reason to kick the British out, and not earlier than under King George to THINK about new negotiations about re-entry in the EU anymore.
Till that time: no British allowed to enter the EU, unless with a Schengen visa, an international insurance and driver licence.
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6 hours ago, vogie said:
EU salads are washed in chlorine and of course our very own drinking water has chlorine in it, what you have to realise is that chlorine is a processing aid and not an ingredient.
No, chlorinated water is ONLY and ONLY allowed in the swimming pool.
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7 hours ago, vogie said:
I understand the concept of sovereignty. And I also understand that in todays world countries and groups of countries have to work together. Not just the UK and the EU.
Sovereignty and working together are two different things all together and never the twain shall meet.
I.e. the UK wants to have a free trade agreement with the USA. How does that work? Both countries have to agree on many issues. I.e. maybe the UK tells the US "we don't want chlorinated chicken". "And you can't touch the NHS". Maybe the USA agrees on that but more likely they will tell the UK: If you don't allow us to do this and that then there won't be a free trade agreement and you won't have the opportunities a, b and c. And that's the point were the UK has to decide if they accept certain conditions which they don't really like or if they don't accept them.
Do you think you are over egging this chlorinated chicken lark, the US washes the chickens with chlorine, no big deal, it rids the chickens of any harmfull bacteria, just the same as the EU washes certain produce of theirs with chlorine. I haven't seen any Americans strolling around Pattaya with glowing green noses or purple eyes, not many anyway. Why don't you ever bring the way the EU uses chlorine to wash their produce?
We do not and indeed will not sell our souls to the devil just to get a free trade deal with the US, it would be nice, but it is not the be all and end all. At the moment we are running a quite healthy trade surplus with the US, whilst with the EU we are running a deficit. So we will be just fine if everything stays as it is, but to be blackmailed into getting a trade deal is certainly not the way the UK operates.
So well done for getting the president of your dreams, he is only president because he is not Trump and not because he is Irish Joe, and as sure as eggs are eggs, he won't be there for ever.
"EU uses chlorine to wash their produce" In which products please.
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7 hours ago, vogie said:
I understand the concept of sovereignty. And I also understand that in todays world countries and groups of countries have to work together. Not just the UK and the EU.
Sovereignty and working together are two different things all together and never the twain shall meet.
I.e. the UK wants to have a free trade agreement with the USA. How does that work? Both countries have to agree on many issues. I.e. maybe the UK tells the US "we don't want chlorinated chicken". "And you can't touch the NHS". Maybe the USA agrees on that but more likely they will tell the UK: If you don't allow us to do this and that then there won't be a free trade agreement and you won't have the opportunities a, b and c. And that's the point were the UK has to decide if they accept certain conditions which they don't really like or if they don't accept them.
Do you think you are over egging this chlorinated chicken lark, the US washes the chickens with chlorine, no big deal, it rids the chickens of any harmfull bacteria, just the same as the EU washes certain produce of theirs with chlorine. I haven't seen any Americans strolling around Pattaya with glowing green noses or purple eyes, not many anyway. Why don't you ever bring the way the EU uses chlorine to wash their produce?
We do not and indeed will not sell our souls to the devil just to get a free trade deal with the US, it would be nice, but it is not the be all and end all. At the moment we are running a quite healthy trade surplus with the US, whilst with the EU we are running a deficit. So we will be just fine if everything stays as it is, but to be blackmailed into getting a trade deal is certainly not the way the UK operates.
So well done for getting the president of your dreams, he is only president because he is not Trump and not because he is Irish Joe, and as sure as eggs are eggs, he won't be there for ever.
"EU uses chlorine to wash their produce" In which products plase.
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9 hours ago, vogie said:I don't think you understand what sovereignty means, my take on it is we should say what happens in our waters and not Mr Barnier. The whole point in leaving the EU was to regain sovereignty and not still be dictated to by the EU, now this might be a difficult concept for some people to come to terms with, but trust me, it is not difficult.
Would you like your next door neighbour to keep walking into your garden and pulling up your prized pansies or ripping up your roses, and to have him say to you 'don't worry, you have survived for the last decades', come on now, you would be livid.
When I sold my neighbour the right to pass over my land, and the roses crop, I have nothing to say.
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21 hours ago, vogie said:No Mr Barnier of course, it has been reported that he is prepared to allow the UK to have 18% more British fish caught in British waters, now doesn't that really show what a kind and considerate man he really is.
How much quota the British sold to EU fisherman ? Wales sold 80%, the English over 50 %.
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21 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:A deal might happen, or maybe not.
Personally I don't think it will happen. Obviously a deal would make sense. And the UK needs a deal a lot more than the EU.
But one way or the other, life with Brexit will be difficult for the UK. And if Boris should somehow explain why he gave in to the EU he will have a big problem.
I guess for Boris and others it's so much easier to blame the EU. Brexit could be wonderful if only the EU would have been nice to us...
Let's see.
Better for all: to let the British experience how life is in 2021 in the Wild Big World. I only hope their last European occupied territories, Ulster, Scotland, Wales and Gibraltar can escape in time. Maybe via the Gaelic ( Celtic) Confederation resp. special agreement with Spain ? What Boris c.s. can do ? Send in the the Black and Tans again ?
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22 hours ago, Rookiescot said:Its pretty obvious. Either the UK (Brexiteers) accept what the EU is offering or its no deal.
Its already been made clear. Now the Brexiteers can huff and puff but its a one sided game because the larger trade entity always dictates what the smaller entity gets.
At this point Brexiteers will do their usual and scream OK NO DEAL THEN but thankfully its actually grown ups who are going to resolve this absolute shambles.
Get used to it guys. You were warned before the referendum took place that this is where we would end up.
You knew what you were voting for and this is it.
Correct. The British now discover it's no longer The British Empire, who negotiate with Zanzibar, Birma, the Boers or even the Catholic Irish, but the tiny British Isles negotiating with the EU BLOC. No gun boats to use.
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On 11/27/2020 at 9:44 AM, vogie said:Not in the slightest, the UK is classed as one country, we all share the same monarch etc.
Just as Canada, Nw Zealand, Australia and a lot of Commonweath nations ?
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2 hours ago, PatOngo said:
Ahhh! The land of the brave and the home of the free! ????
to go to their coffins...
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On 11/26/2020 at 8:41 PM, bartender100 said:Says it all about the EU, when one man negotiates for 27 nations
You mean: one = Barnier, who has a mandate from 27 nations. Elected for his skills. His British counterpart: passed with one more vote as all others in the barony "6 cottages on ditch"
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13 hours ago, Baerboxer said:England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland are one nation. Gibraltar and The Falklands (this forum has rules that include using the English Language) both chose to remain British in democratic referendums.
The EU isn't a sovereign nation. Not even a federal state. But a trading bloc slowly moving to ever closer union as decided by bureaucrats.
You mean: the EU council, with as members the heads of government of the EU member states + the EU commission, with as members one delegate of each EU member state, and.. the EU Parliament, with as members... elected persons by the citizens of the EU member states. The bureaucrats you mention are - just as in the UK and any government - only for one reason: to serve.
Just ONE DIFFERENCE with one year ago: No BRITISH in it anymore.
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A message (woensdag 25 november 2020 ) from a freight forwarder. Normally a 20 ft container Bangkok - Eur Main port costs a US$ 800
At present, we have received information that in December, all shipping super high sea freight will reach USD4500, or higher sea freight.
With the following information, I hope you can learn more about the current market:
1.European ports were short of shipping positions at the end of November, as European sea freight reached USD3600 levels
2.Before the shipping companies opened the port of free boxes can be applied, has been compressed to 7 days, or even 5 days, and requires customers to carry containers need a suitcase list, which also proves that positions and containers are very tight.
3.Last but not least, all positions need to be seized half a month in advance to determine the position.
So far, all shipping companies have stopped booking, with only a few spaces at the end of November..
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4 hours ago, Emdog said:
I would love to see him put Chris Krebs, who oversaw national cybersecurity, back in his former job. Fired by Trump for doing a good job. A Republican also.
The right person on the right place should be the ONLY criterium.
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12 hours ago, cmarshall said:
It's ironic that Britain's oppression of the Irish which created the Irish Diaspora during the Famine should at this late date produce such effect revenge as the Irish American block, which emphatically includes President-elect Biden, should be dictating the UK's internal borders.
But not to worry. it won't be the UK for long. Once the Celtic bits get trimmed off, it'll just be Little England.
The Gaelic or Celtic (con)Federation, and via S. Ireland member of the EU again.
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12 hours ago, cmarshall said:
Absolutely correct. You don't have to do what Biden says and you don't have to have a trade deal with the US.
Amazing how many Leavers believed that Brexit means resurrecting the British Empire.
Rule Britannia, Britannia rule the waves.... around these tiny isles. Back to the glorious times of king Arthur
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12 hours ago, JonnyF said:
Biden pretending to be Irish again.
He should mind his own business. He has enough domestic problems without sticking his nose into other people's affairs.
That's why... he needs the 33 million US citizens from Irish origin...
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1 hour ago, watso63 said:
Who cares what Biden thinks?
Maybe the 33 million Americans — 10.1% of the total population — identified as being Irish in the 2017 American Community Survey conducted by the U.S. Census Bureau.[1] This compares with a population of 6.9 million people on the island of Ireland. see Irish Americans - Wikipedia
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. Well done, UK electorate. Good riddance to the EU.
Brexit talks still stuck because EU is asking too much, UK says
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The UK government signed and UK Parliament ratified. Sorry, we cannot organise a referendum about every step. So.. OUT. Maybe... the governement of King George may again apply for a membership ?