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20 hours ago, fishtank said:
Not a problem for EU but a big problem for UK.
UK is a small insignificant country cast aside on it's own by choice.
I hope the racist zenpophopic brexiteers are now realising the damage that they have done but I doubt it.
Sad.
Till now, not even one UK exporter of manufacturer got any EU allowance number to export meat or fish to the EU.
Ask any Thai exporter of these items... and have pity with the UK farmers and fishermen.
This aside of the WTO import duty for "third countries" on many UK products into the EU, making them then out-of-competition. However, with a crash of 1GBP = € 1,10 towards € 0,90 a lot could be solved.
Last-but-not-least, for those who still can afford: a Schengen visa, international driver licence + insurances when travelling into the EU
Meat processors send ‘stark warning’ on Brexit: Trade volumes ‘could drop 50-75%’
The UK’s largest beef, lamb, pork and chicken processors have warned that if Brexit preparedness efforts aren’t accelerated, trade volumes of products of animal origin could drop 50-75%.... Read more
EU import conditions for seafood and other fishery products The European Union (EU) is by far the world’s biggest importer of fish, seafood and aquaculture products. Import rules for these products are harmonised, meaning that the same rules apply in all EU countries.ec.europa.eu/food/sites/food/files/safety/docs/ia_trade_import-cond-fish_en.pdf -
20 hours ago, billd766 said:
Probably. But the EU have been told over the years that no deal is better than a bad deal.
It would appear that the EU negotiating team didn't believe or accept that.
I expect of MY government to negotiate till the last minute. so 31 Dec 2020, 23:59
Even when the chance is less that that of getting a diamond of 1 kg. ( and my expectation is, the chance of making a deal with the British, which stands longer than one year is total absolute zero. )
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On 12/8/2020 at 2:11 PM, Loiner said:
So how successful has the EU rule setting been? They won’t be getting anything they wanted over the UK.
And What the EU wants to have from the Tiny Islands ? Cheddar cheese ?
Or the "world famous" Welsh beef ?
Meat processors send ‘stark warning’ on Brexit: Trade volumes ‘could drop 50-75%’
The UK’s largest beef, lamb, pork and chicken processors have warned that if Brexit preparedness efforts aren’t accelerated, trade volumes of products of animal origin could drop 50-75%.... Read more
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21 hours ago, Rookiescot said:
And given the level of trade between the two parties did you ever think that was possible?
You think the EU is going to give while allowing the UK to undercut their own manufacturers?
Dream on. Was never going to happen. You should have known that.
CETA does NOT mean full access to the EU market. The Canada-EU trade deal is no model for Brexit - CapX
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21 hours ago, Rookiescot said:And given the level of trade between the two parties did you ever think that was possible?
You think the EU is going to give while allowing the UK to undercut their own manufacturers?
Dream on. Was never going to happen. You should have known that.
CETA does NOT mean full access to the EU market. The Canada-EU trade deal is no model for Brexit - CapX
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21 hours ago, mommysboy said:
EU don't want a deal really, not yet anyway. UK is only asking for a basic trade arrangement as with Canada vs EU/ Canada vs USA.
You really know the consequences of the CETA deal, bye the way, which is still not signed by all EU Members ? EU-Canada Comprehensive Economic and Trade Agreement (CETA) - Trade - European Commission (europa.eu)
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21 hours ago, Loiner said:It has long been obvious that the EU don't want to make a 'deal', only impose their own rules on the UK. Not happening. Boris has told them that for long enough.
Stop their EU nonsense, pull up the stumps, take the bat & ball and go home No Deal.
Throw out these English. Schengen visa + int'l driving licence ans insurances when they want to cross to EU.
Just as the English want to be boss in their own country, the EU wants the same. When somebody wants to do business inside the EU, it is on EU laws, and under EU courts.Simple an anti-dumping tariff on British goods.
Hopefully the EU does the same with all €uro-transactions. End of the financial City of London.
And your fish... put it where you want.
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8 hours ago, 2530Ubon said:
Now this is laughable. Completely made up, and factually incorrect. I wouldn't expect any better from you Vogie, the man who when faced with evidence, throws a tantrum and either denies it's existence, or say's it's not true. Quite like Donald Trump.
There was a court case that tried to sue Boris for lying throughout the campaign, however that case never got started, because it turns out it's not actually illegal to lie your way through a campaign.
Which side was duplicitous and was fined for spending more than they should have (by half a million?).
Which side was taken to court over using data from companies that they should not have been using?
Which side compared the EU to Nazi Germany to try and win a few votes? (The EU is undemocratic and resembles Nazi Germany. Boris Johnson made the statement that Hitler and Napoleon both failed to unify Europe, and the EU has done the same.)
Which side famously quoted 350 million pounds a week was going to the EU and would be funneled back into the NHS on leaving? (I'm picturing a big red bus)
The former boss of the Vote Leave campaign, Dominic Cummings, admits that Remain would have won without the claim that the 350 million would go back to the NHS. The UK Statistics Authority wrote to Vote Leave during the campaign stating the claim was, ‘misleading and undermines trust in official statistics’. The claim excluded the UK’s rebate, as well as payments received by the UK from the EU. It also fails to take into account the contribution to the Treasury from trade and business that would not be present without the EU single market. The government also has shown no sign of spending the £350m extra a week on the NHS if the UK leaves the EU.
Here are 7 more lies (with evidence) that sent Britain down this stupid, foolish, arrogant, and self harming fallacy.
https://www.shoutoutuk.org/2019/11/01/top-8-brexit-lies-debunked/
The facts remain, had the leave team not lied, we would not be leaving the EU. Furthermore, the British people have realised this, and if given a second referendum, would have rejected leaving the EU. It's Boris (An American!) and his cronies that are leading this charge against the will of the British people.
https://whatukthinks.org/eu/questions/if-a-second-eu-referendum-were-held-today-how-would-you-vote/
One tremendous advantage: in many countries they forgot the referendum, as too easy to manipulate the public, which is NOT interested to be well informed. Pity for the British, as THEY are going to pay the prize... after 31-12-2020 24:00 h
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3 hours ago, vogie said:
But the reality is that, if compromises are not found soon, the EU could soon be looking at a double “no deal” — with the British, and with the Poles and Hungarians. That would mean a breakdown in trading relations with the UK from January 1 — leading to the imposition of tariff barriers, long queues of lorries at the borders and possible confrontations between fishing fleets. The consequences of no deal with Poland and Hungary would be that the EU fails to agree a budget for the first time in decades — leading to a disruption in financial flows and a stand-off with Warsaw and Budapest that could conceivably culminate in two further departures from the EU.A double “no deal” — in the midst of the coronavirus pandemic — would get the EU off to the worst possible start to 2021. But the consequences of two bad deals would last for decades."
https://www.ft.com/content/5a84ce50-dd03-4b85-92eb-2df08e1f8497
The present governments of Poland and Hungary know very well, that without the EU subsidies it will be soon over with theri just-majority rule.
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3 hours ago, Laughing Gravy said:Lets get something clear. the UK has left the EU. No amount of whinging will change that fact. We will not be rejoining in any near future.
Secondly it is always the Non Brits who love the EU keep telling us what a mistake we have done and the lies we were told. it is boring now. We all know the biggest lie was getting us to join in the first place, no mention of that though.
Besides being told what to do by unelected bureaucrats from Brussels and it seems many non Brits and a few Scottish ones, like that idea.
You say Brexit makes no sense. Here it is in a more simplistic way for visual learners. Look at the map of the world below and the EU. Well the UK can do business the way it wants without being told it can't or how, with all the other countries. It is that concept that frightens the EU to death.
Quite some countries made agreements with the EU. You think they will make a better arrangement with the Tiny Islands with 67 mln inhabitants than with a block of 450 mln ?
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7 hours ago, nauseus said:I accept it. But the reason for Brexit is not primarily economic. Just that the remainers can't accept this.
No, just for getting 350 mln pounds per week free for the NHS.
And to be boss in your own country, without having to listen to anyone abroad. British Law Only.
So, 'bio" certified food products completely according British law, and not any influence of the EU like EU 2018/848, to be in force at 1 Jan 2021 (oh, coincidence) , valid for everyone, who wants to sell "Bio / Organic" inside the EU. Only slightly unpleasant collateral damage: not allowed anymore to be sold inside the EU as "Bio / Organic".
And so a LOT of rules and regulations..
Think of CE mark of the EU: for all toys, sports articles, electric appliances. Think of all certificates of the FSA, BRC. As valuable as waste paper. Means beef and pork: not allowed to bring inside the EU seen the risk of mouth and claw disease. Poultry and fish: need a special approval number of the EU, ask any Thai exporter. No British manufacturer even started the application for it. This aside of the WTO- import duties and agricultural levies for products from "Third countries".
Outside of the EU RASFF, so every trader with "substandard food end feed" will look towards the Tiny Islands, as... before they get the warning... weeks have been passed already.
Last-but-not-least: the EU made agreements ( read: import duties) with many countries, that a product may be called "of EU origin", when at least 90% of all parts and components are of EU origin. Means... for British parts new alternatives MUST be found ex the 27 member states, and.. the all mighty UK.. has to finish new agreements first.
"Details, details, details", Boris the Liar Cummings would say.
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1 hour ago, Kwasaki said:
Yeah most media overestimate as usual.
From FT today :-
The pound has climbed 0.64% to $1.3011 against the dollar today and 0.38% to €1.1958 against the euro.
1,1045 | GBP/EUR » Koers Valuta | IEX.nl You mean: 1 GBP = € 1,1045
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2 hours ago, Rookiescot said:But they need us more than we need them. We hold all the cards. German car manufactures. Easiest trade deal in history.
Why has the EU not capitulated to our cake and eat it demands?
Because the time of Lord Kitchiner are over, only many British do not know that.
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Happy the UK is a few months earlier then when I can get this vaccine. So time enough to see the results. When even Rees-Mogg and Cummings become enthusiastic EU supporters, you know something is rotten...
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6 hours ago, Bruntoid said:The U.K. GAVE them the right to fish our waters - how many times does this need to be said before it sinks in ?
Why are fish so important to Brexiteers ? It’s laughable.
Brexit will cost 2% of GDP - fish contribute around 0.01% of GDP - guess which one the Brexiteers are agitated about ????????????
No use to argue with Brexiteers.
They only believe it, when their "British" fish cannot be exported to the EU, together with nearly all their agricultural products seen hygienic and veterinarian rules of the EU, they UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCE to follow ( white the rest of the world knows: when you want to sell inside any country, you have to do it under the rules of that country). FSA certificates no longer recognized, BRC exchanged for IFS, no info anymore from EFSA and RASFF, no CE certificates anymore...
Then the next steps: all exports under WTO-import duties, so bye bye British make + car products, financial services ONLY under EU law = ECB. And the last blow: Schengen visa + international insurances and driver licence when British want to travel inside the EU.
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12 hours ago, Tug said:
Come spring hopefully the world will see the vaccine helping
Just listen to the several specialists in the world: the real mass of vaccination will not start before June, or as the Dutch specialist says: August.
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6 hours ago, Geordieabroad said:
I see the remainers are still around, although quieter than usual
We just wait a two-three months, when disaster really hits the Tiny Islands.
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On 12/4/2020 at 11:33 AM, transam said:
No kiddin, just forget about trying to control UK sovereign territory, then perhaps the deal will be done.
So, tell France to back off demanding the use of what is not theirs......
When you want to do business in another country (or bloc), you have to do that on the rules of that country. When there is a dispute, you have to go to the courts of that country.
So, EU, stop with accepting British certificates, as are not in accordance with EU (lood) laws.
Pity... for "bio", the EU will accept British Bio-certificates till 31 Dec 2021. *( very limited imports from the UK into the EU, so nobody will notice it)
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1.4 BILLION Chinese, who also wants to have 3 meals a day ( and not only rice + rice), have nice cloths ( and not a Mao-suit), live in a decent house, go sightseeing in their own neighborhood as abroad, wants to drive an own car, have good education for their children, and a safe future. The "Western powers" did not behave so correctly against China the last 400 years. I can imagine, they go on "safe".
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On 12/4/2020 at 3:59 AM, Oldie said:
The EU should leave the Brits alone. The EU is an awful organization not loved by many. But the EU and also the Euro are kept alive by some that have benefits. Whatever the Brits decide - it is their country. And honestly - I admire the Brits that they leave the EU and that they kept their own currency. In respect of the vaccine - somebody has to start to use it if it ever should be used. Otherwise it is useless.
That's why even a British investigation gave, by far all EU citizens are happy to be in the EU.
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17 hours ago, Bluespunk said:Under eu rules any and all countries can fast track vaccines.
What the U.K. did is allowed under eu regulations, which the U.K. is currently still subject to.
On the Day the European Medicine Agency got the files of Pfizer, the UK started to use their stuff for vaccination. I wish the British much luck. We in the EU will see a month later, want the results were. Probably o.k., but that is different as.. 'close to sure".
Public health is NOT an issue of the EU, as every member state, and even every region ( compare: England, Scotland, Wales, N. Ireland) take these decisions on their own.
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7 hours ago, Thingamabob said:
Free of EU bureaucracy the UK is now able to move faster with approvals. Could be risky though. Hopefully not.
Has nothing to thank to be "free of EU bureaucracy". The EU Medicine Agency's view is still preferred by all EU member states, which.. each - as public health is NOT an EU subject - could also decide on their own.
But, it is really a joke: a medicine, financed by Americans, but out of an idea, of Turkish fugitives living in Germany, produced in Ireland and Belgium, is NOT first tested and inspected by the EU, but the British - voluntarily - let themselves be the first massive guinea pigs to be tested on in an absolute scale...
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17 hours ago, teacherclaire said:
Side effects?
Will believe have to be inside the EU....
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19 minutes ago, 7by7 said:
Despite his faults, Boris is not stupid. He knows that the UK needs a deal more than the EU does.
But he has to convince his Tory ERG backers that he is in charge, that the UK is dictating the terms. Otherwise he and Carrie will be on the phone to Pickford's early in the New Year!
Expect a deal to be announced at the last minute which. like his WA, Boris will proclaim to be his own, personal triumph.
Hopefully, unlike his WA, Boris then wont go back on his word and try and break another international treaty a few months later!
Therefore... do not make any agreement with Boris the Liar. Only a new referendum, with at least 75% of all British voters in favour for a new membership of the EU, no special rights anymore, accept the €uro, Schengen, and right lane traffic. And no new Brexit anymore the coming 100 years.
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There is still the chance of a Brexit deal, Merkel says
in World News
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I worry more about the UK farmers, and.. the financial service of the City of London.
EU car makers... will fill the gap the British car makers will loose seen 10% import duty on UK made cars. But maybe... when the GBP will drop a 15% compared with the €uro ?