rattlesnake

Statistics can be hidden, amplified or manipulated. Need I remind you of the billions the pharmaceutical industry paid in fines for a plethora of crimes ranging from data tampering and fraudulent advertising to misleading statements and kickbacks paid to physicians? We are not talking about a benevolent enterprise, but of a criminal cartel in the strictest sense of the term. Regarding polio, the unilateral view that it was eradicated by vaccines has long been challenged with facts, by fringe medical practitioners ("fringe" does not mean "incompetent"), the latest occurrence being Dr Suzanne Humphries. The below 7-minute video (the second one, "When the conversation turned to polio…") lays out the essential points and is worth watching. Just because everybody believes something doesn't make it true, especially when there are colossal amounts of money at stake.

I could give you a whole list of scientists who refute the safety and effectiveness of vaccines, and the reply would be, as always, that they essentially have gone astray (usually for reason of being psychologically unstable or financially motivated). In my view, any break from the current dogma can only come from those very institutions which have installed this unwavering trust in the first place: if the HHS releases unfavourable information about vaccines, then we might have a paradigm change. Failing this, it's just going to be the same old back and forth between "pros" and "antis". Which is why we should pick up this debate in September, if RFK follows through. Beyond the fact that I personally find it downright creepy (I appreciate that some people may not care, fair enough), Dr Tenpenny, for example, has written about WI-38 and MRC-5 fetal cell lines used in vaccine production, with the subsequent issue of opposite-gender chromosomes in developing infants, and the potential mutations and autoimmune disorders this entails. Yes, this is "disproved" etc., hence my first comment above, we're not going to truly progress on this issue until truly independent testing has been carried out, as explained and intended by RFK.

Good, these funds can now be spent to improve the lives of the US taxpayers.

"The landscape of vaccination has evolved" is your way of putting it. Fine, I respect that. I see that I received approximately 10 vaccine doses between the age of 0 and 18, and that this number has now risen to 70 as per CDC guidelines. No need to put a spin on it, that's the reality. And the inconvenient fact is that people nowadays are not healthier than the previous couple of generations, quite the contrary. Those who start threads and routinely complain about "the rise of distrust in science" should take a step back, acknowledge these figures and understand that a significant number of people are simply not okay with this.

Of course I get my anti-vaccine information from anti-vaccine sources, just as you get yours from pro-vaccine sources. Both will naturally be formulated according to their bias, emphasising or minimising specific aspects in order to convey the desired message. The core issue is that people never think independently or research things in order to form their own opinion: they should. As I said, people can get acquainted with the information, parse what they deem to be relevant or not and draw their own conclusions. That's all it is about. There are moral and ethical issues about certain facts, such as the use of aborted fetal cells to develop what is colloquially referred to as "medecine". I certainly have reservations about this, and the problem is that the vast majority of the population is not informed about it.

Things have changed a lot in ten years, this is part of the problem. Yes, 17 doses is more than what the typical adult over 35 has had in a lifetime, so this meme was grounded in reality and thought-provoking (which is the purpose of memes), and as I stated in that thread, one would have to be dishonest to disregard the issue raised – if I realise I am not dealing with an honest interlocutor, I usually cut short as my time is very precious.

Here is information which those reading can go check by themselves. Ingredients included in the vaccines injected into children's (often babies') bodies: Polysorbate 80 Thimerosal Mercury Aluminum Formaldehyde M59 Squalene Acetone Sodium Borate (Borax) 2-Phenoxyethanol SV40 Triton X-100 Bovine Calf Serum Poultry Serum Poultry Byproducts Animal Organs Used To Make Vaccines: MDCK: Madin Darby Canine Kidney, female Cocker Spaniel VERO: African Green Monkey Kidney FRHL: Fetal Rhesus Monkey Lung CHO: Chinese Hamster Ovary PK-15: Pork Kidney RK-13: Rabbit Kidney SIRC: Rabbit Cornea Harvested human organs used to make vaccines: HEK-293: Human Embryo Kidney, aborted female; used in development of Ebola & Covid MRC-5: Human Lung, 14 week old aborted male; used in Polio, Rabies, Chickenpox, Hep A & Shingles WI-38: Human Lung, 12 week old aborted female; used in Polio, Rabies, Chickenpox, Hep A & Shingles RA 27-3: Human Kidney, 6 weeks old, used in the Rubella & MMR PER-C6: Human Retina, 18 weeks old, used in the development of Ebola & Covid IMR-90: Lung from a 16 week old fetus; to replace the WI-38 line WALVAX-2: Lung from a 3 month old fetus; to replace the WI-38 and MRC-5 line

Interesting, I did not know that. I have more of a problem with the heavy metals included in the recent versions, which are demonstrably problematic, as well as the frequency of inoculations in babies (c.f. the CDC graph from the other thread where one can verify that a minimum of 17 doses are injected into humans by the time they reach 6 months of age).

Yes, but regardless of context, capital tends to flee when a politician goes down the populist "let's tax the rich" route (understandably as it is always favourably received by the populace).

I'll take that as a compliment, Will.

By all means, the superior members of society should devise an actionable Final Solution to resolve the "Antivaxxer Question"…

As confirmed by its co-founder Larry Sanger… but he's probably just a "conspiracy theorist".

"Likely to be"…, "likely to surpass"…, "could be"…, "would be…", "strongly indicates…", "the experts foresee…" Keep 'em coming, we're on the edge of our seats.

The coming months are going to be tough for you, John. Hang in there.

Covid was a pivotal event. A few smart doctors, such as Larry Palevsky, anticipated in 2021 that the Covid jab rollout would probably destroy the vaccine industry.

NIH Director Jay Bhattacharya on mRNA tech: Covid vaccine uptake has collapsed "The next step is [to halt] the mRNA platform itself... the manufacturer has no idea what dose they're giving, no idea where it goes in the body, and whether they are producing off-target antigens" video_2025-04-24_12-47-56.mp4

Indeed and in fact, the ultimate test of integration is to crack a joke in a foreign language and see if the natives spontaneously laugh at it.

Time to jump on the bandwagon and go then… kind of like the liberals who have deserted X in droves. The official explanation is "the atmosphere is too toxic", but the truth is more straightforward: they can't stand a censorship-free environment. Careful, "cabal" is a conspiratorial word!

It's a subtle balance to find, as it will encourage them to leave. It happened in France and lots of them moved to Switzerland.

I assume your girlfriend is Thai and the underlying question is whether there are cultural explanations to this? Usually, the Thais are those who like a laugh and the farangs those who have long faces. But of course, if there are Western cultural references and subtleties, it's unlikely to be understood by a Thai.

Firstly, I think we need to get the terminology right. From what I have seen so far, the systems colloquially referred to as "AI" are simply optimised algorithms. They can be useful when seen and used as tools in specific contexts (for example, Grok will produce the same results you would get on Google, but will aggregate them in a split second and present them in an organised way, using grammatical elements which form a coherent text). However, relying on them for things usually confined to the human realm (such as communication in its various forms) results in a dumbing down, from a syntaxical and conceptual viewpoint. I would even posit that where "artificial intelligence" begins, real intelligence ends. This is a tool which needs to be balanced and used within its limits. In my experience and opinion, it is certainly not the revolutionary "next frontier" lots of people make it out to be. And ultimately, it only regurgitates what it has been programmed to "say" (which raises ethical and perhaps regulatory issues).

Serious Contender for the Bad Taste Joke of the Year Award.

That was precisely my intent, and I know there are a few on this forum as they have occasionally posted that they were (sometimes badly) injured. It is also reasonable to assume there could be some who are injured but never post. With all the gaslighting going on, it's good to put these things out in the open. Yes, vax injuries are real, yes, it has happened to many people and yes, you can do something about it.

Kind of like the quarantine camps the CDC had in store… Good thing Warp Speed short-circuited that plan. (I am not against antibiotics).

Recovery Insights from Dr. Peter McCullough MD Three key substances enhance recovery after the shots: 1. NATTOKINASE: Degrades spike proteins. How much? 2000 units twice a day 2. BROMELAIN: Also breaks down spike proteins. How much? 500 milligrams once a day 3. CURCUMIN: Reduces inflammation and spike protein damage. How much? 500 milligrams twice a day with 5-10 mg of piperine for better absorption This summarizes Dr. McCullough's “Base Spike Detoxification” protocol. ADDITIONAL TREATMENTS: HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE: Added if there are signs of autoimmunity. IVERMECTIN: Included if there are signs of persistent infection. COLCHICINE: Used if there are significant signs of pleuropericardial problems (involving the membrane around the heart and lungs). NICOTINE PATCH or ORAL ACICLOVIR: These are considered if there are neurological symptoms like brain fog. LOW-DOSE NALTREXONE: Used to enhance the body’s natural painkilling response and reduce inflammation. video_2025-04-22_21-29-54.mp4