rattlesnake

I said this yesterday in another thread, this is a weak case to make from a pro-vax perspective. Three deaths is statistically insignificant (and one of the children reported as having died of measles actually died of medical malpractice), and "… or have unknown vaccination status" means, quite literally, that we don't know whether they were vaxxed or not. So far, this outbreak does not differ from trends observed throughout time.

My apologies.

Please explain.

Conclusion: the crazy antivaxxers were right.

Nice solo echo chamber you have here… Try posting it outside your safe space, i.e. in the "Off the beaten track" section, which is not censored.

The fact that studies are underway de facto proves the opposite. Take a step back and consider the semantics at face value. Your opinion is secondary and, ultimately, irrelevant.

113 is impressive, my grandma almost made it to 100.

Its OK, still kicking, don't worry about it.

Would you believe a medical practitioner who told you the below statement (which you quoted)? Plenty of studies to show that wearing masks does no good. Too many people out there cannot do any research, but still quote BBC, Wiki and CNN nonsense.

His opinions are shared – and his appointment to his current position is seen positively – by a lot of people. It's not a top-down thing where he says something and then people believe it. Many people have been saying the same things he says for a long time. This trend forms an integral part of today's society, whether you like it or not. Let's wait and see what comes out of it.

Ten years ago, when I was still a vaccine believer, I asked my GP in France to vaccinate my then two year-old son against the flu. He recommended not doing it, saying it was a lot better to let his immune system take care of itself and that none of his own children had ever been jabbed for it. This doctor is not a "conspiracy theorist" by any stretch of the mind. A couple more physicians told me the exact same thing over the years, including for adults. It seems that the flu vaccine's lack of efficacy is well known in the medical community.

It will be very interesting indeed… though I think ten years would be a more relevant time frame. P.S. "Healthcare", not healthcare.

Evidence of what? Of the growing number of "conspiracy theorists"? It is observable empirically, hence the constant reminders of our existence and nuisance. We even managed to get one of our guys in the White House.

I agree there are varying degrees of relevance and plausibility. Flat Earth is indeed a tricky one to handle, if it were a video game mode, it would be Impossible Mode (or God Mode)

Too few of those, our ranks are growing. We are a plague and should not exist, so what should the Good People do about us? It's a fundamental issue.

Pandemics don't work, Rick, we're still here and fit as fiddles. Keep up the brainstorming!

Thanks for the reference. Will check it out.

As forewarned by several doctors such as Tenpenny, Bhakdi… but they are "conspiracy theorists", they couldn't possibly be onto something.

Indeed I have. I'll tell you one thing, people don't seem to be in great shape these days. The reason why is anybody's guess… but in my opinion, the Spike protein can harm the body and I don't regret not receiving the Covid jab.

I definitely agree. This rejection seems to occur only in the context of Covid/vaccination refutation, which, in a way, is tacit admission that this is a taboo issue. I don't recall there being the same stringent requirement for other societal issues (e.g. nobody says one needs to be a firearms expert to formulate an opinion on gun control…).

Of course the measles didn't help, however we don't know what main factors led to this unfortunate outcome: she died of respiratory failure after having been given the wrong antibiotic, that much is certain. On a macro-level, three deaths is statistically insignificant and can't reasonably be used as a basis to draw conclusions and/or principles. I have no problem with my posts being seen as conspiratorial, but in this instance, it led to a misreading and erroneous conclusion. It isn't the sole reason for my stance, but it certainly didn't help… To be honest, I don't recall the details, I just know some doctors (not all of them) backed my sister in her decision to not give him any more jabs, and she managed to get the required paperwork, though it wasn't easy and as I said, she still is regularly "pushed" to reconsider. Well that's where my conspiratorial mind kicks in… The VAERS system is notoriously flawed and doesn't catch most injuries. In any case, the vaccine industry is worth hundreds of billions, can I imagine inconvenient stats being left aside? Yes, I certainly can. A 2025 study, 22 years after this one, will be welcome.

"Anyone", not "everyone". Her four siblings (not three, I made a mistake in my previous post) did not catch pneumonia – though she did – because of a multitude of factors which neither of us know. Portraying her pneumonia infection solely as a consequence of her unvaccinated status is the result, as pointed out previously, of a bias in favour of vaccination. You are reading and interpreting according to your predisposition to see my posts as conspiratorial. In this case, if you look at the paragraph I wrote, it is grammatically clear that "they" refers to the media: "Which brings us to a fundamental issue: why did the media claim this child died of measles? Because they are pushing a specific viewpoint. If they were pushing for the opposite viewpoint, they would give lots of visibility and credibility to studies such as the one below, which gives credence to the notion that measles spreads among vaccinated people." This is the point I was making: conversely to the above, if there was an endeavour to demonstrate the opposite stance, it would be done just as compellingly, with no shortage of material to support it. The video below presents a dissenting viewpoint. On a personal note, my own nephew (UK-based) was hospitalised in a critical condition after taking the MMR vaccine (causation acknowledged and vaccine exemption issued by the NHS, though my sister still gets regularly harassed with "encouragements" to jab him), so when Polly Tommey says you can die from it, I know she isn't kidding. RFK recently said “We don’t know the risks of many of these products, they’re not adequately safety-tested": is it really rational and reasonable to simply retort that he is nuts and that his current position is the result of some eccentric mishap? Could it not be that there is perhaps some truth in all this? If I was a pro-vaxxer, I would take a step back and give this some serious thought. MMR Vaccine Dangers-VEED.mp4

Her three siblings, whom it is reasonable to assume are also unvaccinated, also caught measles and recovered with no problem. This child caught pneumonia (which anybody can catch, regardless of any vaccination status) and died because of medical malpractice. She did not die of measles, unlike what the media have reported. Which brings us to a fundamental issue: why did the media claim this child died of measles? Because they are pushing a specific viewpoint. If they were pushing for the opposite viewpoint, they would give lots of visibility and credibility to studies such as the one below, which gives credence to the notion that measles spreads among vaccinated people. In the "Background" section, the first sentence is de facto an opinion, the second sentence is factual. Outbreak of measles among persons with prior evidence of immunity, New York City, 2011 Background: Measles was eliminated in the United States through high vaccination coverage and a public health system able to rapidly respond to measles. Measles may occur among vaccinated individuals, but secondary transmission from such individuals has not been documented. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24585562/

Here is an interesting take: Expert Medical Record Reviews Of The Two Girls In Texas Who Purportedly Died of Measles I have long reviewed medical records of patients harmed by poor medical care. Here, I present clear evidence of what actually caused the 2 girls deaths in Texas. It wasn't measles. Not by a long shot. https://pierrekorymedicalmusings.com/p/my-expert-review-of-the-medical-records?triedRedirect=true&sfnsn=mo