spidermike007

We are going to meet out massive punishment, to all policemen who are found to be corrupt, and in dereliction of their duties. Does anyone remember who said this a couple of years ago? Hint. He is a very, very little man, who says ridiculous things almost every time he opens his mouth, and is constantly embarrassing his nation, and sabotaging the tourism industry with the hurtful things he says. Figured it out yet?

So, the punishment in this case, is transfer to a desk post, at full salary, and all of the benefits that come with having the badge. Because we do not think human trafficking is all that serious. Right? 

On August 20, 2016 at 1:42 PM, carken said:

Actually he is not a disgrace to his country, he is simply following in the footsteps of the US govt. As far as "integrity is what is missing" lack of integrity is another natural trait for US in today's world. He is simply a shining example of what US govt, it's leaders, it's justice system, it's big biz / big phram CEO's have become ... Children imulate and grow up imitating their parents, citizens imulate and imitate their govt and their leaders. America is a disgrace to the world and the majority of it's citizens, govt, politicians, leaders have no integrity, just selfish self absorbed, greedy, lazy, socio-psychotics looking for the next country to invade, the next population to mass murder and the next territory to place their humanitarian nuke bases ... but hey that's just my opinion

While I agree with some of what you say about the US Govt, and big pharma, I totally disagree with most of what you say about the American people. While there are certainly many that are gullible, easy to convince of anything, lacking culture, worshipping at the idol of reality TV, and self absorbed, a high percentage are hard working, honest folks, who have the capacity to be kind and generous. I run a business in the US, and deal with many Americans, as well as people from around the world. Most Americans I deal with are straight shooting, and fair. And as hard as you may find it to believe, most Americans have no interest whatsoever, in invading another country, nor do they have any interest in supporting mass murders. And most are sick and tired of the adventures the past couple of presidents have gotten us into. A high percentage, including myself, think US Foreign policy absolutely sucks. 

And what my government teaches me, is what NOT to emulate. 

12 hours ago, innocenthai said:

Boring you with your "secret places" i find it so stupid that someone can think that any place is secret.

 

Just look at agoda, hundreds of hotels there, not so secret :-)

 

What might be secret is the best beach bungalow, any idea ? where is your favorite beach place at prachuakkirichan ?

 

Thank you.

Not alot of great beach bungalows in Prachuap itself. But some excellent seafood restaurants. There are some nice little spots in Klong Wan, just south of town, on the sea. And if you head further south along the coast to Ban Krud, there are a number of great spots. The temple at the north end of Ban Krud bay is one of the best temples in Thailand. The entire coastline, from about Sam Roi Yot, to about Ban Saphan Noi, which is about a 180 km. stretch, are the best beaches on the mainland side of the Gulf, and the entire area is charming. Prachuap province, from about Pranburi south, is outstanding. As you start getting closer to Chumporn, it starts dropping off, and at Chumporn itself, you will find one of the least charming cities in the nation. 

4 hours ago, edwinchester said:

Doubt if he would get far going down that road but the fact he's been released and had his airfare paid for speaks volumes about lack of evidence. Does anyone seriously believe the military would be letting anyone go if they had even minimal connection with the bombings?

Yes. If they came from the right family, had enough cash or influence, or were well connected. Yes. 

All the nitwit, fat, ugly, cowardly, murderous despot dictator has to do is open his borders, and see how many flee, to find out if he is indeed offering the kind of paradise he claims. My guess is that the only  investors they have there are from China. The Chicoms do not care. They have a little bit more freedom at home, as long as they do not criticize their leaders. At least in China people can come and go as they please. And how many tourists will show up to visit N. Korea? How many travel agencies will add it to their Asian tours? Probably about the same number as Afghanistan attracts. About 50 annually. Nimrod "Adventure" travelers. 

2 hours ago, louse1953 said:

Your last paragraph is based on what,<deleted>.You have slurred and defamed a man and his parents.Pretty safe hiding behind a keyboard.I suggest you put up or shut up.

Oh my. I have slurred and defamed a man who burned down a Tesco supermarket, while participating in a coordinated, concerted attempt to bring chaos to the country. Wow. I feel REALLY bad about that. And on top of that, I have defamed his slug parents, who raised this worm, and no doubt helped him buy his way out of jail, and avoid any punishment for his crime. How am I going to be able to live with myself?

Nice to see the police working hard and trying to make life better for everyone involved. No need to investigate allegations of human trafficking, slavery on the fishing fleets, major drug and weapons deals, and corruption at the highest level of government when you have such important work to carry out. Lets keep moving Thailand forward. 

A note to the scum dictator Fat Kim: You do not feed your people. You do not provide a life for your people. You do not allow any liberty. You are one of the most insecure men in the world. You have no self esteem. You repress your people as much as possible. You provide them no entertainment options, and a horrific quality of life, while sucking the life blood out of your country, and amassing tremendous personal wealth. You have consumed so much of your dead Dad's wine cellar, you have blown up like a blimp. 

Why would anyone who could leave, what to stay? Get a life you worthless turd. 

1 hour ago, Winniedapu said:

 

Maybe the definition of fight varies from place to place. Thais are known for fighting if there are overwhelming numbers, but not otherwise, and they got that reputation how? By not being a nation prone to violence at the least provocation? Listen up friend, people are the same everywhere, cultures may be different, and in Thailand the culture predisposes to hair-trigger and feelings of inferiority, a tragic mix in any country.

 

And the couple of Thais who have assaulted my wife have either been in prison or have had their lives destroyed. And I do mean destroyed; house gone, health gone, land a wasteland, living in a tent, no job, no work, no friends, no money, no prospects, no clue. They fight their way, I fight mine.

 

Winnie

Nice. I love someone who defends their turf. There are lines that one should not cross, in this life. Messing with the spouse is one of them. Good on you. Maybe they learned something? Or maybe not. Up to them. Either way, they got what was coming to them, and they obviously messed with the wrong person. 

4 hours ago, thaihome said:

 

There are something like 9 operating desalination plants in California now. One just opened in Carlsbad. http://pacinst.org/publication/key-issues-in-seawater-desalination-proposed-facilities/

 

The only successful large scale desalination program is in the Persian Gulf. There you have readily available cheap energy,  little environmental awareness or regulations, and low population density.   Doesn't sound much like the California coast does it?

 

Personally I don't think that with the current technology,  desalination is the all in answer to California's long standing water issues. It is just too expensive,  too energy dependent,  and too environmentally unfriendly.  Any large scale industrial plant right on the coast is not a good thing. It may help in a small way, but conservation and recycling will contribute far more.  The leveling out of the population will also help.

 

The end of California as we know it has been predicted for a long time. I was born and raised there from the early 1950's and have heard this all my life. It most often starts up during droughts and the accompanying wildfires (or after a major earthquake ).  

 

To bring up "mandatory evacuation" is just ludicrous.

TH  

The whole conservation and recycling BS, is the liberal talking point. That attitude has helped to get California in the dire straits it is in now, with no planning, vision, or foresight. You cannot force people to conserve and recycle, without a fascist regime. There are currently only TWO active desalination plants in the US. The one is Carlsbad is a big one, and it is a visionary project. When they factor the cost they always use todays water prices. That is going to skyrocket to an unbelievable degree. Wait until it is well over a dollar a gallon. The attitudes might change, and hopefully the liberals ( I am a reformed liberal) will be thrown under the bus, at that point. So what if we waste a few seals. What is the big deal? 

5 hours ago, Goonerboy said:

This is their country, they can do as they please. You don't see Thais acting like this overseas.

Of course not. The rich ones cannot buy their way out of trouble as easily as they can here. Let's take a walk over to the bank. All of your problems are solved. We even take credit cards. 

My guess is the average Thai punk would not do too well in an overseas prison. They are not used to fighting one on one. They would be devoid of their punk gang, so they would have to fight on their own. The fights would all last less than 5 seconds. 

Bear in mind, it has been 9 days since the first bomb. And they are bringing in a suspect only now? Nine days is an eternity when it comes to bomb investigations. What on earth have they been doing for the past nine days? And they still refuse to even consider calling it any sort of terrorism. That evil word might scare away tourists.

Well, I will tell you something guys. Those bombings did scare away tourists. I have a friend who is visiting Pattaya at the moment, and it is a ghost town. And I have another friend in Samui, and he says he has never seen it so slow. He knows of a large Chinese group who cancelled due to the bombings. When the Chinese start cancelling you know you have problems! 

My guess is that the consuls walked away brimming with confidence. Can you imagine what they really felt? Being told by these guys who are dressed up like law enforcement, wearing badges, and carrying guns, and by all appearances looking like real cops. Yet, not a single one of them, more than likely has any law enforcement skills approaching even a policeman in Burkina Faso. And not a single one of them will ever do anything if there is no cash involved, or pressure from high up the chain. 

Sorry guys. Your cover is blown. The entire planet knows who you are. The entire planet does not consider you law enforcement. 

According to the Jiu Jitsu master from Brazil, who knew him, he went out with his friends to get laid. He claims he was just trying to cover up the whole event, from his girlfriend, and Mom. It would appear he really blew it. His career is over. He is worth over $6 million, nearly all from endorsements. He is now radioactive. Nobody will touch him. Guess he got what he deserved. That money will be enough to live on, but I doubt if he will earn any more, despite being the second most decorated and accomplished swimmer in US history behind Phelps. 

He could have offered a significantly more humble and sincere apology, which he did not. He even blew that opportunity. Stupid, ignorant, and petulant does not even being to cover this. More like an abomination. 

Would have been nice if they promoted it in a way, that most residents of Hua Hin, and the entire province heard something about it. Prachuap Khiri Khan governor Thawee Narissirikulis is a rare, talented, good politician. Thailand needs more like him. Much good has been done for the region. 

Southern California has been facing major drought conditions for many years now. And does anyone know why there has not been any effort to create major desalination plants, like they have had for decades now in Israel? They are afraid of killing a few seals, and some fish. That is it. The liberals in power have done everything they can to prevent this long term solution. Granted, it will not do much to prevent wildfires. But, the water shortage problem in California is only going to get worse. I can envision a time in the not too distant future, when water costs 50 cents a gallon. That would mean $6 showers. And thousands of dollars to fill up your pool. At that time, there will be a mass exodus from the state. There are not many creative minds working on solutions at this time. It is a disaster of epic proportions, just waiting to happen. The entire southern half of that state was once a vast desert. It does appear it is reverting back to that state. Just give it another 10 to 20 years, and they could be looking at mandatory evacuations. 

1 hour ago, Alive said:

It's obvious the owners have no real wealth or connections. They will be good examples for the authorities. I just see all justice in Thailand as hypocrisy. Even with this supposedly anti-corruption regime in power, the connected, powerful and wealthy get a free pass. The law isn't the law for all.

It was never about corruption for this regime. It was always about going after the little guy, members of opposing political parties, and those not in favor of the regime, to make it appear as if it was about corruption. How many CEO's have been arrested for using slaves on their fishing fleets? No, just a captain here and there gets a fine, or gets his boat briefly impounded. For human trafficking! In any other nation that is life imprisonment. How many super wealthy have faced a judge, and been convicted? What about the Red Bull heir? What about the serial killer on Dark Tao, who is still walking free, while the two Burmese patsies are languishing in the Bangkok Hilton. How many high ranking army or police officers have been arrested? The term above the law still relates to all people with wealth, power, connections, and family name. 

2 hours ago, JetsetBkk said:

 

You don't need a lot of brains to swim good.

 

Well, that is true. But he is an incredibly accomplished athlete, and has had the kind career most only dream of. To throw that all away over something as stupid as what this appears to be on the surface makes no sense at all. This just does not pass the whiff test. There is something else going on here. I suspect it has to do with diplomacy. 

Lochte attended the University of Florida and graduated in 2007, majoring in sport management. As a member of the Florida Gators swimming and diving team, he swam for coach Gregg Troy in National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA) and Southeastern Conference (SEC) competition from 2004 to 2007. At Florida, Lochte was the NCAA Swimmer of the Year twice, a seven-time NCAA champion, a seven-time SEC champion, and a 24-time All-American. At the 2006 NCAA Men's Swimming and Diving Championships, during his senior year, Lochte won national titles in all three of his individual events, setting U.S. Open and American records in the 200-yard individual medley and 200-yard backstroke. He also broke Tom Dolan's nearly decade-old NCAA record in the 400-yard individual medley.

Lochte's success has earned him the World Swimmer of the Year Award and the American Swimmer of the Year Award twice. He has also been named the FINA Swimmer of the Year three times. He has won a total of 90 medals in major international competition, 54 gold, 22 silver, and 14 bronze spanning the Olympics, the World, Pan American, and Pan Pacific Championships.

The temple is at fault, for not offering any kind of solution to the shoe mess. And the people are at fault, for just putting their shoes anywhere. People are always putting shoes right in front of my door. What is up with that? I always just brush them to the side. Silly, ignorant, selfish behavior, that betrays an extraordinary lack of awareness of the world around them. 

As far as the wat den goes, he was the only one who did the right thing here. He deserves an award. Just sweep the crap aside!

There is absolutely no way to know who was in the right here. A potentially corrupt cop, or some woman who could not handle getting busted for committing five traffic offenses. In the US she would lose her bike, be charged with not having a license, going through a red light, no current license plates, no insurance, no helmet, and assaulting a police officer. That would be thousands of dollars in fines, the likely loss of a license, if she even has one, and perhaps two years in prison. Here, she is probably just going to walk away from all of this, due to a fabulously ineffective judiciary. No deterrent, equals no correct behavior, and no motivation to behave correctly on the road, resulting in thousands of deaths annually. 

Not sure its been proven to be a lie.  3 swimmers involved.  All the "evidence" against them is the claim by a very embarrassed nation, and one of the world's most corrupt and violent police departments that "they found no evidence to support their claim". Between Brazil and a very weak Obama, they agree to throw Lochte under the bus, to avoid an international scandal. He claimed they were law enforcement. Not security guards. So it would be an international incident with major repercussions. The Brazilian government may have gotten to Obama. And he is turn may have sacrificed Lochte. 

Now it could have happened exactly as it is being reported, but considering that he is worth $6 million plus, and ALL of that money is from endorsements, not sure he could possibly be stupid enough to walk away from that gravy train. It just smells funny. I admit it could be true. But it seems too pat. Too easy a narrative to construct. It would have been a huge amount of egg on Brazil's face, if it had turned out to be true. There could have been tremendous pressure from both the Brazilian govt, which is teetering on the brink of disaster, and the US State Dept too, which does not want to embarrass a close friend in Brazil, and is fabulous incompetent. Plus the additional consideration of Brazil having a huge economy and sphere of influence in S. America. 

Lochte is worth over $6 million. all from endorsements. He has to be have been lectured to a hundred times, by his advisors, accountant, lawyer, agent, and parents, about behaving responsibly, especially at the olympics, to be able to maintain that income stream. Entitlement and a sense of privilege does not answer these questions sufficiently.

Some of it does not make sense. But, that could have been footage from the day before, showing them coming back with their wallets. We all know how powerful the government is. Did we see a date and time stamp, that matched the narrative? Even that can easily be manipulated. I question the media. I do not trust the media nor do I trust the US govt., and least of all do I trust the Brazilian police, and a government that is teetering on collapse. Desperation is the order of the day. 

I am just throwing out a counter narrative, and addressing a situation that just smells strange. Let us see what happens. That footage with the guys coming back after the event with their "stolen" wallets, could have been from the day before. We all may be underestimating the power of the government and the State Dept, and not considering their agendas. Think Vince Flynn. Think Tom Clancy. Think Barry Eisler, not New Yorker magazine, or NY Times, or any other tool of the government's agenda. We just do not know. It would be so easy for the State Dept, and the Brazilian govt, to create this. It happens every single day. National security BS. I have no agenda here. I know little about these guys, and care little too. But, I do not trust the govt one iota, much less the fabulously corrupt and violent Rio police.

A counter narrative goes like this: Not sure its been proven to be a lie.  3 swimmers involved.  All the "evidence" against them is the claim by a very embarrassed and corrupt police department that "they found no evidence to support their claim". Between Brazil and a very weak Obama, they agree to throw lochte under the bus, to avoid an international scandal. He claimed they were law enforcement. Not security guards. So it would be an international incident with major repercussions. The Brazilian government may have gotten to Obama. And he is turn may have sacrificed Lochte. 

Now it could have happened exactly as it is being reported, but considering that he is worth $6 million plus, and ALL of that money is from endorsements, not sure he could possibly be stupid enough to walk away from that gravy train. it just smells funny. I admit it could be true. but it seems too pat. too easy a narrative to construct. it would have been a huge amount of egg on Brazil's face, if it had turned out to be true. there could have been tremendous pressure from both the Brazilian govt, which is teetering on the brink of disaster, and the US State Dept too, which does not want to embarrass a close friend in Brazil, with a huge economy and sphere of influence in S. America. 

Lochte is worth over $6 million. all from endorsements. he has to be have been lectured to a hundred times, by his advisors, accountant, lawyer, agent, and parents, about behaving responsibly, especially at the olympics, to be able to maintain that income stream. Entitlement and a sense of privilege does not answer these questions sufficiently.

On August 17, 2016 at 1:22 PM, Credo said:

I am not a fan of Trump and I couldn't see myself voting for him, but he does have my sympathy.   Over the years, I have seen him on television and seen some of his interviews.   I also watched some of The Apprentice, with mild interest.   

 

In many of his interviews in the past, he seemed to show a level-headedness about a lot of issues.   

 

That seems to have disappeared in this race for the Whitehouse.   

My guess is that he was faking the sanity part, all of those years. He has now shown that he is certifiably insane, and he could very well become a despot leader, the man responsible for major genocide, and a future war criminal. Regardless of what happens, if he becomes president, there is less than a 1% chance the world will emerge unscathed from it. The US is already facing alot of challenges. This man will insure the country drops a few more notches. If some of what he says was true, and he really intended to follow through on some of his promises, that actually might be a good thing, to some extent. But, he means nothing he says, and he does nothing he promises. He has demonstrated this over his entire lifetime. His credibility is next to zero. So, the broken promises will make Blundering Barry look like an amateur, which of course he is. 

14 hours ago, gdgbb said:

 

"... the recent passage of the new referendum."  

 

What?  The referendum (it wasn't a 'new' one) was a vote regarding the new constitution, referendums don't get passed or go though a passage.  The government has no more power today than it did the day before the referendum neither has it imposed greater censorship.

 

What is "Dark Tao" justice?

 

No government is ever honest towards it's people.

 

 

Not sure what you are talking about. How could you say, with a straight face, that the new constitution that was recently voted upon and approved, does not give the government more power? 

In its first test at the polls, Thailand’s military government won overwhelming approval Sunday of a new Constitution that aims to reduce the power of political parties and extend the influence of the military.

With 94 percent of the ballots counted, voters were approving the military’s proposed Constitution by a wide margin, according to returns issued by the election commission. A companion ballot measure that would give the military junta the authority to fill the Senate with its appointees was also easily winning approval.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/08/world/asia/thailand-constitution-referendum.html?_r=0

Provisional official results indicated that 61 percent of voters chose in favor of the draft, despite provisions that guarantee a future overarching political role for the armed forces in a hand-picked Senate and vocal opposition from the country’s two main sidelined political parties, the Democrats and Peua Thai. A second referendum question also passed, opening the way for the potential selection of a non-elected prime minister.

Regardless of voters’ motivation, the credibility of the result is tainted by the junta’s harsh suppression of vote “no” campaigning in the run-up to the vote. Hard curbs on free expression, imposed in a draconian Referendum Act that carried potential 10-year prison sentences for misrepresenting the draft, criticizing its content, or disrupting the vote, resulted in the arrest of at least 120 people, according to Human Rights Watch, a rights group. In June, the United Nations expressed its concerns about the restrictions and later released a follow-up to counter comments apparently made by the Thai foreign ministry to the local press that said the U.N. was notconcerned.

http://thediplomat.com/2016/08/what-does-thailands-referendum-result-mean/

And Dark Tao refers to Koh Tao, and the heinous manipulation of justice that has recently taken place, in regard to the murders of the British people there. 

1 minute ago, Eligius said:

You are right, Spidermike007; but I think Winnie means that this system is 'strong' (brutal) towards those who are not its favoured bedfellows!

I suppose you are right. Strong only with those members of society that are detested by both the elite and the government. That means the hard working masses, the poor, the unprotected, the ones without power, influence, family name, political office, police connections, or the wrong political party. Or cash. I agree with alot of what Winnie has to say, though we do disagree from time to time. But, in this case, this is not the definition of a strong judiciary. Just simply one with the capacity to impose harsh sentences on people it has been directed to prosecute harshly.