spidermike007

I drink very little so I do not care about that. But I do care about a big brother with extremely limited talent, competency, vision or intelligence telling me what, or what not to do. And people are stuck at home with little to do. Why deny them this small pleasure? Is this a false moral crusade? Is the health and well being of the public really what is at stake here? Or are we looking at the beginning of a power play to wrestle absolute control back? 

18 hours ago, Jingthing said:

I don't think public health measures to slow down the spread of this virus are nonsense. Not only social distancing of course. Mass testing, contact tracing, isolations when needed, and yes shutting most things down. It would probably be a good idea to shut down all the in house restaurant eating too but as long as it isn't and you're out anyway doing something essential, it doesn't seem that bad. I think plenty of people though will be using them as usual, making special trips to them, socializing there, so that would be a good reason to totally shut them down. 

No. Contact tracing and mass testing makes alot of sense. Some sensible nations like Sweden are NOT locking down the country or the economy. That is beyond inane and the only people who do not think so are those with cushy pensions or the wealthy. 

People are getting absolutely crushed. This is beyond ridiculous. This is over reaction to a stunning degree. Society is in a panic. Take a deep breath. 9 deaths nationwide? One would think we are living through the virus of 1918. Bizarre behavior. 

Let them fail. State monopolies are rarely the answer. Allow them to reorganize as a private carrier, with competent leadership, reasonable pricing and good service. And that private enterprise can enthusiastically say NO to the government and army  vamps. 

Another utterly inane response to what many consider the coming zombie apocalypse. Deprive the masses of the little bit of enjoyment and stress relief they have. Are they inviting a crime spree? What gives here? Where is the sanity and reason? This guy should be quarantined. 

54 minutes ago, kimamey said:

There is some evidence that shows higher temperatures might limit the transmission rates but it's inconclusive and there's a suggestion that it may be influenced by heat and humidity.  I've not seen any scientific evidence that there is a provable ideal temperature but maybe you know better. 

I don't think the number of cases is relevant as that's influenced by the number of tests. Fewer tests fewer confined cases. The deaths however are encouragingly low, assuming of course those figures are correct. 

 

There does not seem to be solid evidence yet. However the numbers suggest that temperatures make a big difference. 

An unpublished analysis comparing the weather in 500 locations around the world where there have been Covid-19 cases seems to suggest a link between the spread of the virus and temperature, wind speed and relative humidity. Another unpublished study has also shown higher temperatures are linked to lower incidence of Covid-19, but notes that temperature alone cannot account for the global variation in incidence.

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200323-coronavirus-will-hot-weather-kill-covid-19

Then there is this. Slightly out of date totals but it tells a story. 

Data taken from WorldOmeter;
 
- Countries with a higher average temperature than 23 degrees over the last three months; 484 deaths
- Countries with a lower average temperature than 23 degree over the last three months; 24,753‬ deaths
 
- Population living within an area with a higher average temperature than 23 degrees: Roughly 3 billion
- Population living within an an area with a lower average temperature than 23 degrees: Roughly 3.5 billion. 

2 minutes ago, lkn said:

If the lockdown works, it’s easy to point fingers and say that they overreacted, because we do not know what the case count and death toll would have been, had they not locked down the country.

 

Though we can look at Italy, despite introducing a lockdown 3 weeks ago, and with a population smaller than that of Thailand, they had 812 new deaths in the last 24 hours, bringing their total death toll to 11,660 and a case count 101,991.

 

So the seriousness of this virus should not be downplayed, as the president did for the first 6 weeks, and now he is saying that if they “only” get 100,000 deaths (in the U.S.) then they will have done good.

 

You can of course question the ways that countries have handled the virus, and I don’t think just locking down everything for an unknown amount of time is the best strategy, I would have preferred to see much more testing and contact tracing, this would have been expensive, but hardly as expensive as the stimulus packages that the various countries now have to approve.

 

The testing and contact tracing is what they did in South Korea, with great success. It is the way to go. It represents the best result, and the least amount of suffering for the fewest people. Lockdown is inane.

4 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Jacksonville has been in the 80's, this week it will drop, but then starting next week it will go back up to the mid 80's and up.

 

https://www.theweathernetwork.com/us/weather/florida/orlando

https://www.theweathernetwork.com/us/weather/florida/jacksonville

 

But then thats not what the OP was about so I digress.

 

The deaths here are being under reported, if not then why would they have shut the entire country and provinces are closing down.   

Ill informed, ill equipped, and under qualified officials. Deliberate panic? The desire to regain utter control? There could be a dozen different motivations behind this inane reaction. Thailand is a nothing burger, with regard to Corona. This will peter out within a few weeks time, topping off at 5,000 cases, maybe. 

9 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Then explain why Florida, which has been averaging the mid 80's and up, to be exploding in cases.  The hospital my daughter works in as a surgical ICU nurse has just created 10 new negative pressure room's to keep up with the patients they have been receiving.

Up to mid 80's with night time temps in the 50's. Statewide, still fairly mild temperatures. And most communication of the disease is thought to be between family members, hanging out huddled together in air conditioned homes. 

9 minutes ago, Isaan sailor said:

So let’s take a quick look at numbers in comparison of corona virus deaths.

• USA now has over 3000 corona deaths—and it’s just getting started there.  USA population: 350 million.

• Thailand has announced 9 deaths—and this is China’s favorite foreign vacationland.  Virus exposure for three months now, with a total Thai population of 70 million.

You decide who’s telling the truth...

 

It is not about truth. It is about heat. The ideal temperature range for this virus is 37 to 64 degrees F. The heat here is devastating the virus. At least the heat here is good for something. If this thing was going to blow up, it would have happened a month or two ago, when we had over a million Chinese tourists crowded into various areas, some of whom were from Hebei province. 

17 hours ago, canthai55 said:

Wonder what some people, perched on their High Horses ...

 

If you are so worried about the well being of others, where were you - and your Horse - during any of the following

Thank you. A voice of sanity, in this utterly inane economic shutdown, which is going to cripple hundreds of millions of people. The self employed, the people just barely getting by, the poor people of the world are going to experience a level of suffering and deprivation, that will be 100 times greater than what this virus will do. And for those of you who do not think martial law is a possibility, just wait. 

This JKEDCV (joy killer, and economically devastating coronavirus) is going to wreak havoc on many lives, not due to it's virility, but due to the zombie apocalypse over reaction of many societies around the world. 9 deaths in Thailand to date. About what we see in one area of Bangkok in one day, from pedestrian deaths. 

I heard Taipei is now totally closed as a hub for flights to the US?

Still basically a nothing burger compared to road deaths, pedestrian deaths, pulmonary issues, cancer, and a myriad of other factors. An entire country in lockdown over 1500 cases and 9 deaths?

Does that seen inane to anyone other than me?

54 minutes ago, VocalNeal said:

 

Yes the eyes are a vulnerability. Need to sanitize often and then no issues. Nor evidence that Corona can be transmitted through the skin. 

57 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Are you saying gaining Citizenship is easier in the US than in Thailand?

 

I'd say it's much easier here, if you're married and working.

If you have little money it is probably easier here, though still very difficult. If you have the $500k it is a piece of cake in the US. Get the green card right away, which would be the equivalent of becoming a legal Thai resident. Then wait ten years and walla!

All the cloth or surgical masks do, is prevent you from spreading the virus, if you are contagious. It does not protect you. Only the N90 or N95 masks offer protection from a virus or bacteria. I see huge numbers of Thais wearing masks that do nothing to protect them. 

The only real benefit of a cloth mask is in preventing you from touching your mouth or nose. 

1 hour ago, Joinaman said:

was in Pattaya last week and very very quiet. Would it not make sense to use some of the out of work locals to clean and repair all the filthy footpaths and alleyways. Seeing it so quiet really showed how dirty and decrepit the whole place is.  If they want people back , at  least try and make a little bit more inviting. Beach road looks a bomb site. Why can Thias never finish as they go. They seem to stop and star , but never complete, while leaving their rubbish everywhere.

But at least they have a tractor and sand cleaner going up and down the beach, just a pity it never seems to get all the rubbish dumped nearer to the footpaths

That requires a bizarre and exotic thing called "local pride".

1 hour ago, AspiringToJustBe said:

True.  Shutdown is completely unwarranted.   And there's good science behind that statement.  Unfortunately most people are reading only the headlines which are pure hype.   See also: https://tinyurl.com/um3dtsy

Spoke to every member of my family back in the US. Not a single one questions the official narrative. Not one. Hook, line and sinker.