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47 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

What do aquarium products have to do with the FDA?

The FDA does everything in it's power to protect big pharma. Chances are, they have no interest in a run on a generic drug. So, they are putting roadblocks in the way of the hydrochlorquinone. That would be my guess. The FDA is the one who issued the alert about the dangers of taking it. What is their agenda? Public safety for them is usually their last consideration. They are a truly heinous organization. 

If an herbal company, that is making a perfectly benign product does not spend $2-3 million on FDA tests, they will issue warnings against the product. Democratic? Or fasco/capitalismo?

2 minutes ago, Max69xl said:

Who is talking about a 24 hours lockdown? If there will be a curfew, which is possible, we're talking about 7pm-7am. That's Level 1 in the Emergency decree. 

Wissanu is pushing a plan to lock down the entire nation.

No curfew has been implemented yet but one is possible, Deputy Prime Minister Wissanu Krea-Ngam said in a briefing, adding it could be a 24-hour prohibition with exceptions for essential activities like buying food.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-25/thailand-to-impose-broad-lockdown-to-fight-spread-of-coronavirus

In Arizona, a man died and his wife was hospitalized after taking a nonmedical form of chloroquine used to fight parasites in aquariums.

This is so typical of the FDA, which is a stunningly corrupt organization, that cannot be trusted on any level. They are twins to Big Pharma. This guy swallowed aquarium products and died. What on earth does that have to do with the use of this medicine. Beyond inane. 

Invest in the highest quality air filter you can afford. It is all about the size of the filter. Good air filters need massive sized filters. You are dealing with horrendous air quality, and that wears the lungs down over time. People can develop allergies to pollution, which wreaks havoc with the respiratory system. With the Corona going around, you need your lungs to be in very good shape. 

The Xiaomi pro is one of the better filters available, here for the money. And the replacement filters are under 1000 baht. 

9 hours ago, SCOTT FITZGERSLD said:

there is panic all over the globe.

the source for this panic is high rank officials in the world health organization.

they took over this crisis and the result is disastrous.

the virus is in thailand since at least january, so why panic now?

if the virus is so deadly, so why thai hospitals are not jammed with sick and dead

people?

because just now the WHO told to all government  : "PANIC ! NOOOOWW!!!"

i can see the same panic all over the world, besides the UK and US who took

the herd immunity approach, and it seems quite succeful.

Definitely alot of sheep panicking, and not thinking things through. And the army is taking advantage of this situation. When they do declare martial law, which appears inevitable at this point, the people will rejoice, and say they are doing it to protect us! Only later will they realize the enormous extent to their errors in judgment. 

The WHO is creating panic. The media is creating panic, and fabulously incompetent administrations like we have here, and in the US are creating panic with policies that change from day to day, and no coherent plans to deal with either the infections or the millions without income during this crisis. 

The US is having very little success in controlling this. Almost 12,000 new cases yesterday, and they are only now starting large numbers of tests. Hopefully the heat here will help to keep things under control. And now, the ninnies are talking about a 24 hour nationwide lockdown? What can one even say? Many experts say this virus is cyclical, so it is questionable how effective self quarantine is, anyway. 

2 hours ago, sirineou said:

I am sure you know this, but I am repeating it because I just had first hand experience.

The reported case are only a function of the testing kits of which none or very few are available.

My sisters daughter (love her to death, like a daughter to me) located in NYC, started feeling sick three days ago, Tired, sore throat, pain in her lungs. She tried to get help on the phone for hours with no success. And she is well informed as she is a professional, and my  sister is Also  a registered nurse and an upper level manager for a National home care organization.

Trying to impress that these people are much better connected than the average Joe. 

  Anyway Yesterday she developed a fever also and went to the emergency at the local hospital.  She said it was a zoo and felt bad because there were so many people there much worse than her. After several hours there they took an x ray, told her that she did not have pneumonia yet , but did not test her for the virus because they did not have enough test kits. Send her home and told her to keep trying the number.

It is very frustrating because both my sister and me are stuck in Florida and all we can do is call on the phone. 

  That's all I know, I did not want to press my sister for more info as she was very upset , 6 am here , can't sleep, being up since 4 am, I will call my sister later today to find out how Nataly is doing. 

VERY FEW PEOPLE ARE BEING TESTED. (sorry for the caps) No one has any idea how many people are infected. Personally I think the test kits are delayed on purpose to artificially keep the numbers down.  

I would advise her to start on a regimen of Azirthromycin and Chloroquine. They are having success with this cocktail in France and India. Worth a try. Better than doing nothing. 

https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/20200317_48/

1 hour ago, Titan1962 said:

Maybe I am mistaken or don’t fully understand the virus as yet.

You May have the virus but show no symptoms,thus allowing you to travel or work. Then after a week or two you get sick or start showing the symptoms. Can the virus be spread prior to showing symptoms,or does it get transmitted once the symptoms arrive.

I personally hope that the Thai authorities lock the place down and enforce it with military presence. If not this will continue to escalate and continue for months. I would much rather go through a 4 week isolation or shut down than going on for months or even a year. People have to relize that a lot of Thai people live day to day and cannot afford to have no income for months on end. Better to have a hard shut down for a month,than a year of misery.

A large part of the reason for worldwide panic, is that this is the first virus that I know of, that you are able to spread to others, without being at all symptomatic. I think this is what is causing the greatest degree of concern, this is what is affecting the markets so profoundly, and this is what it causing massive over reaction from the Thai army, and many governments around the world. What is the 7pm curfew going to accomplish? All nightlife is closed anyway. 

The army has done a good job of instilling alot of fear in the public with mixed messages that change nearly every day. So, people are panicked. The system is likely overloaded. Remain calm. All of this is going to work out. Somehow. 

2 hours ago, Digitalbanana said:

https://covidtracker.5lab.co/en?case=54&fbclid=IwAR1mS39fuQgebIOBkuLO91nhuVGASg1DeDrFkvY-9kQC7hw9pSTngSrquPc

Outstanding map. Thanks for that.

14 hours ago, overherebc said:

Me and she are 'self islolating' after doing one of the last possible border hops. 7 days now and all ok.

Total shut down for 2 or 3 weeks must be done. It's not going to stop the virus in its track, nothing except a vaccine can. It's just the way this virus is.

No objection from me if it means curfews or soldiers/police on the streets.

I don't want to get sick or die from this because some think no-one has the right to stop them having parties or going to the bars.

Shut everything except food shops and pharmacies.

Medical services need as many breaks as they can get.

You are getting your wish. Looks like the army is imposing a 7pm curfew as of tomorrow, and is on the verge of imposing martial law.

2 hours ago, overherebc said:

I sort of go with the virus being killed off if it lands on a surface that gets full tropical sunlight and high UV levels  ( hence vindaloo was tongue in cheek ) no scientific knowledge/proof on my part to justify my thoughts though it feels like it makes sense. There will be the arguement 'what about the middle east?' Dare I mention general lack of hand washing, years of war and water priority is for drinking, and all eating from the same central dish using hands and a not too well advanced health care system unless you're stinking rich. Anyway you get my jist.

So in general I agree with the idea of heat and throw in a good dose of UV.

India? I'll still go with 'hold that result'. Lots of people in close contact.

Edit.

Anyone got a digital thermometer to check the temperature of their car parked in the sun here for an hour. Outside and inside the car?

Also, the middle east is not hot this time of year. Averaging around 16-24 in most areas. Not hot enough. 

Now we are getting a flip flop from the army. There was a general "go home, get out of the big cities" attitude last week. Then photos surfaced of the Mo Chit Bus terminal being jammed, and they were embarrassed. This week they are saying please stay in cities and do not go home. However the cities are locked down and you don't have a job. What can one say?

My wife is visiting her home town in Issan. She drove there today. She was told the local officers are coming around and telling people who are returning from big cities to self quarantine for two weeks. The people are getting really scared. Caution is good. Panic is not good. 

2 hours ago, overherebc said:

Hold that result. Vindaloo won't kill it.

Not spices. The heat. The air temperature kills it. And it retards the spread. Just look at the list and compare highly populated warm countries with colder countries. We have an advantage. 

100 new cases a day is still very mild. And the four deaths is very low for 800 cases. All I am saying is no need to panic. We are quite safe here. Just take precautions. 

2 hours ago, jacko45k said:

I hope so but Malaysia and Philippines have the virus. 

True. But my point is how low the numbers are. Look at India. Tiny numbers compared to Europe or US. 

3 hours ago, Cryingdick said:

 

It's the airlines. They have never been good business. Too many risks.  Amazon basically functions as the de facto medical, food, and essential goods distributor. Google and Apple... will have more money than the government soon if this keeps up.

 

Here is what one of the greatest CEO of all time said about the company he ran American Airlines.

 

“I’ve never invested in any airline. I’m an airline manager. I don’t invest in airlines. And I always said to the employees of American, ‘This is not an appropriate investment. It’s a great place to work and it’s a great company that does important work. But airlines are not an investment.’”

 

-Robert Crandall

 

Agreed on Amazon's packaging however these days it is made out of very young trees. We have more wood pulp than you can shake a box at these days and it's sustainable.

 

 

For this maybe the government should get involved airlines will always have problems weather, war, disease, economics, fuel prices... 

 

 

The airlines have to be bailed out that isn't even in question.

And the airlines should have access to loans. Not grants. And let us not forget the reason why travel within the US is so expensive is consolidation. That was a huge mistake to allow it to happen. Really tragic for the American people. 

Joe/Amy. Frankly, at this stage, I think Justin Bieber could beat Trump. But that VP ticket might win by 10 million votes. Trump fatigue has set in, he really blew the response to Corona, (it was a democratic hoax!!!) and the economy is tanking. His chances of re-election are evaporating by the day. And Joe is being really smart, by sitting back and letting all of this play out. 

16 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

 

You are old school and quickly becoming the minority. Paperless billing is the way to go. The USPS would never be able to provide the service to the people right now as Amazon does. Order your essentials in the next 30 minutes get FREE delivery by 2 pm tomorrow. 

 

It's apple's and oranges. Amazon also doesn't need a bail out.

I like Amazon too. Their service is amazing. I do object to their packaging, which is way over the top. But, they are good. However, they are not a substitute for the guy I need to send a check to for my garage rental, nor the book I need to ship, at book rate, which is really cheap, nor the occasional package I need to ship overseas. The post office still serves a very useful function for millions every day. 

And let us hope none of the bailout money goes to Amazon, Apple, Netflix, Facebook, or any of the other giants that are making more money that most can count.