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Really? A recession? How surprising. How about a 25% contraction of the economy, exports down by 40%, unemployment of 10-20%, mass suicides, and tourist arrivals of 11 million, for the year 2020?
My prediction on the virus? A total of less than 5,000 cases, and death toll of around 100. Yet, millions of lives devastated by this inane economic shutdown. And perhaps years, before the country recovers from this.
The only people on this forum who seem to support this shutdown, are those who are comfortably retired, with a nice pension. Easy for them to judge.
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9 minutes ago, Isaan sailor said:
So let’s take a quick look at numbers in comparison of corona virus deaths.
• USA now has over 3000 corona deaths—and it’s just getting started there. USA population: 350 million.
• Thailand has announced 9 deaths—and this is China’s favorite foreign vacationland. Virus exposure for three months now, with a total Thai population of 70 million.
You decide who’s telling the truth...
It is not about truth. It is about heat. The ideal temperature range for this virus is 37 to 64 degrees F. The heat here is devastating the virus. At least the heat here is good for something. If this thing was going to blow up, it would have happened a month or two ago, when we had over a million Chinese tourists crowded into various areas, some of whom were from Hebei province.
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17 hours ago, canthai55 said:
Wonder what some people, perched on their High Horses ...
If you are so worried about the well being of others, where were you - and your Horse - during any of the following
Thank you. A voice of sanity, in this utterly inane economic shutdown, which is going to cripple hundreds of millions of people. The self employed, the people just barely getting by, the poor people of the world are going to experience a level of suffering and deprivation, that will be 100 times greater than what this virus will do. And for those of you who do not think martial law is a possibility, just wait.
This JKEDCV (joy killer, and economically devastating coronavirus) is going to wreak havoc on many lives, not due to it's virility, but due to the zombie apocalypse over reaction of many societies around the world. 9 deaths in Thailand to date. About what we see in one area of Bangkok in one day, from pedestrian deaths.
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I heard Taipei is now totally closed as a hub for flights to the US?
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Still basically a nothing burger compared to road deaths, pedestrian deaths, pulmonary issues, cancer, and a myriad of other factors. An entire country in lockdown over 1500 cases and 9 deaths?
Does that seen inane to anyone other than me?
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54 minutes ago, VocalNeal said:
Yes the eyes are a vulnerability. Need to sanitize often and then no issues. Nor evidence that Corona can be transmitted through the skin.
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57 minutes ago, Neeranam said:
Are you saying gaining Citizenship is easier in the US than in Thailand?
I'd say it's much easier here, if you're married and working.
If you have little money it is probably easier here, though still very difficult. If you have the $500k it is a piece of cake in the US. Get the green card right away, which would be the equivalent of becoming a legal Thai resident. Then wait ten years and walla!
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Just now, possum1931 said:You can bet the Thai authorities will let the Chinese back in when things start to get near enough back to normal. They have already chased away many expats and tourists with their ridiculous immigration issues, and relying on the Chinese and Indians, now it is going to bite them on the bum and it serves them right.
And I predict the numbers will not return to anything approximating what they had previously. Therefore resort areas like Pattaya will continue to feel the drop in business.
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7 minutes ago, Neeranam said:Isn't $500,000 about 16 million baht? I believe you can get VIP visas for 20 years here for $20,000.
When you spend that money in the US, you are spending it on something concrete like a home or business. The elite visa, which I believe is closer to 2 or 3 million baht, is the purchase of an easier lifestyle, but it buys you nothing but that.
Plus a green card represents permanent legal residency and a path toward citizenship. So, it is not even a reasonable comparison.
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All the cloth or surgical masks do, is prevent you from spreading the virus, if you are contagious. It does not protect you. Only the N90 or N95 masks offer protection from a virus or bacteria. I see huge numbers of Thais wearing masks that do nothing to protect them.
The only real benefit of a cloth mask is in preventing you from touching your mouth or nose.
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2 hours ago, joecoolfrog said:Better for who ?
Not the girls who service them or the establishments that provide them with a bed , food and drink.
Better for Thailand's image , well given that 90% of the sex trade is driven by domestic consumption , well not that either.
If Pattaya , Nana , Soi Cowboy , Patpong , Bangla Rd all ceased to exist , there would still be thousands of massage parlours , Karaoke bars etc offering sexual services.
If you dont like the concept , why choose to live in Thailand , prostitution has been part of the culture for centuries.
True that. The last thing in the world Thailand needs is our moral judgment. That is just such a tired topic.
Especially when you consider the fact that prostitution and the sex industry are utterly rampant in a place like the US. It is simply hidden and underground. Here, everything about the industry is more honest, transparent and improved, over the western version.
So please, leave your crusading at home.
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1 hour ago, Joinaman said:
was in Pattaya last week and very very quiet. Would it not make sense to use some of the out of work locals to clean and repair all the filthy footpaths and alleyways. Seeing it so quiet really showed how dirty and decrepit the whole place is. If they want people back , at least try and make a little bit more inviting. Beach road looks a bomb site. Why can Thias never finish as they go. They seem to stop and star , but never complete, while leaving their rubbish everywhere.
But at least they have a tractor and sand cleaner going up and down the beach, just a pity it never seems to get all the rubbish dumped nearer to the footpaths
That requires a bizarre and exotic thing called "local pride".
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27 minutes ago, CGW said:Why? Singapore is half the size of Bangkok with a different lifestyle to the rest of Asia.
It should have spread in Bangkok weeks ago if we analyse the situation with the information we have? ????
Actually months ago. We had an average of 1.3 million Chinese tourists a month during December and January. Many from Hebei province. If this thing was going to blow up here it would have happened well over a month ago. Not gonna happen. Just alot of zombie apocalypse scare mongering going on and the local population in a panic. Who benefits from that? I can think of one huge organization.
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1 hour ago, AspiringToJustBe said:
True. Shutdown is completely unwarranted. And there's good science behind that statement. Unfortunately most people are reading only the headlines which are pure hype. See also: https://tinyurl.com/um3dtsy
Spoke to every member of my family back in the US. Not a single one questions the official narrative. Not one. Hook, line and sinker.
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Hundreds of millions around the world are struggling to make a living, at this moment. As I said on another thread, I expect the consequences of the economic shutdown to be 100 times worse than the virus itself. It is like making a facial pimple into a cancerous tumor. More people died last year in Italy, of pulmonary issues in two weeks time, than the total number of worldwide deaths to date from corona.
This zombie apocalypse reaction, with regard to the economy is so far beyond inane, that it barely merits discussion. Millions could die of starvation in India alone.
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Join the club. Hundreds of millions around the world are struggling to make a living, at this moment. As I said on another thread, I expect the consequences of the economic shutdown to be 100 times worse than the virus itself. It is like making a facial pimple into a cancerous tumor. More people died last year in Italy, of pulmonary issues in two weeks time, than the total number of worldwide deaths to date from corona.
This zombie apocalypse reaction, with regard to the economy is so far beyond inane, that it barely merits discussion. Millions could die of starvation in India alone.
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Good, good. Defiance can be a beautiful thing. Small mom and pop shops being open are no threat to anyone, as long as minor precautions are being taken. Why should the big guys be allowed to be open, and the little guys, who really need it, be deprived of a livelihood? I consider the economic shutdown to be 100 levels beyond inane.
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Woody Johnson would be more productive, by blaming the US government and the CDC for such a slow, lame, and destructive lack of response to this virus, early on. There is much blame to go around. And the administration deserves a huge amount of it. They messed up to a historic degree. And nobody can honestly say they did not see it coming. Trump allowed 300,000 people in from China, during the month of January, when the virus was raging in Wuhan and surroundings. And even after his infamous "lockdown" on Feb. 2nd, he continued to allow all Americans and Chinese with green cards to come and go as they pleased from China, without any screening, no doubt contributing dramatically to the number of cases we are seeing today.
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Just arrest the top fifty generals, including Prayuth and Prawit, and jail them without trial. Problem solved. Guilty parties caught and dealt with.
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I am certain they can afford their own security. There are larger fish to fry at the moment. If anything good comes out of this virus, perhaps it will be a society that is less obsessed with celebrity.
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Hundreds of millions of people will be devastated not by this ridiculous virus, which has killed less people worldwide, than the total number of people who died in Italy last year from pulmonary issues in two weeks time. And it will not be the zombie virus which causes it. It will be the inane economic shutdown. Millions may starve in India and other poor nations. How does that compare to the results of this virus? Where is their safety net?
Coronavirus is a facial pimple, that is being looked upon as a malignant cancerous tumor, with a death sentence attached. The over reaction and panic is nothing short of the zombie apocalypse. All intelligence, common sense, and reason has flown out of the window. Witnessing this is nothing short of surreal. And tragic.
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2 hours ago, Brunolem said:
And now it is Dr Fauci himself who is revising his death predictions waaayyyy down!
https://www.wnd.com/2020/03/dr-fauci-concedes-coronavirus-death-rate-like-bad-flu/
You either succumb to White House pressure to color the facts, you resign, or you are fired. There is no grey area with this president.
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8 minutes ago, steve73 said:I fully agree.. starvation, suicides (from isolation or bankruptcy, etc), murder (probably of one's co-self-isolationist in many cases), etc, will almost certainly lead to many more deaths than CV.
In 2019, the UK had just under 700,000 deaths (or about 1% of the population). That's almost 2,000 per day, so the 1,019 deaths attributed to CV so far are what would be expected in around 12 hours.. (or put another way, CV has so far been responsible for a little over 0.5% of the expected deaths).
Globally, with 7.8 Bn population there might be expected to be around 70 Million deaths per year, so the 31,000 deaths from CV complications is less than 0.2% of "normally" expected deaths.
The media is (being told to..?) blowing it out of all proportion. WHY..?
We are witnessing society in a meltdown level panic. The media is squeezing this to a nauseating level. This is NOT the zombie apocalypse.
That for the wise perspective. Spot on. This virus is a pimple, that is being treated as a cancerous tumor.
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16 minutes ago, Peterphuket said:
When you talking about millions of Chinese people crowded Thailand in January, then the incubation period must be very long.
And until now, I don't hear anything about crowded hospitals, so if we like or not, it looks like there are not that many infections.
I like it. Alot! Corona sucks!
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Thailand reports two new coronavirus deaths, bringing total to nine
in Thailand News
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Up to mid 80's with night time temps in the 50's. Statewide, still fairly mild temperatures. And most communication of the disease is thought to be between family members, hanging out huddled together in air conditioned homes.