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It's very easy for Thais to get visas to the USA. Just show up and watch as 90% get accepted when they go up to the booth.

You're obviously drunk or confused.

CRES will be along shortly

Monday will be a very interesting day!

If she wins, all hell is gonna break loose, Bet on that.

K3 is dead visa. NVC will close the I-129F.

I hope he likes Bang Kwang. A good place for him. At least we didn't have to hear his big mouth for awhile. I'm surprised Mr. T isn't puting him up for PM.

So why are you listening to him? Who is "we"? I make my own choices.

Wow!! You seem incredibly independent. Sorry I included you in "we." From this point forward I will post "we (except for rreddin)" Happy now?

I hope he likes Bang Kwang. A good place for him. At least we didn't have to hear his big mouth for awhile. I'm surprised Mr. T isn't puting him up for PM.

The police need to cordon off the area with blue ribbons and inflatable yellow bears, passing out candy canes and gummy bears, playing happy music and sprinkling everyone with glitter!

The police themselves could dress up in two piece jackass costumes and let the protesters take turns kicking them in the ass!

At least that wouldn't be as embarrassing as what's going on now.

The Citizenship has some odd ones also:

http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/n-400.pdf

Questions 9-12 are interesting.

I'm inclined to agree that it is the mood of the interviewer at the exact moment that she is standing at the window. BTW my wife's interviewer spoke to her in perfect Thai and me in English.

We sailed through the K-1 process and the green card and the 10 year green card and because we decided to return to Thailand to live (and thus risked loosing her green card) we applied for US citizenship. That's where the problems started. For some reason one bureaucrat didn't like something he saw and sat on her application. This was in spite of her excellent history of work and college in the US over the 3 years she lived there. We contacted our congressman who got them to make a decision.

It reminded me of drivers tests which seem to fail 30% of applcants for no good reason. This is something that must be taught in bureaucrat school and is aimed at making said bureaucrat feel powerful.

As for the comments about bringing your Thai wife to the US and the risk of her dumping you for a younger, richer man I think it's pretty funny when men embarrass themselves by admitting their poor judgement and describing how a Thai girl took them to the cleaners. Sour grapes from men who played the game and lost. Most of these loosers likely deserved what they got.

Well said.

Amazing.

When an american marries a foreigner, he can not bring her into the Land Of Freedom, unless they go through months of paperwork, and even then, they can not be sure about the outcome?

I took my wife to europe shortly after we married - she now has permanent residence status in most of europe, hardly any paperwork was involved.

And automatically a work permit.

And automatically national health insurance.

(But she can not travel to that american island off our coast....oh well, blimey, nothing interesting there anyway).

I'm racking my brain (not hard to do with so little) . What island is that?

the UK

European visa / residency is not valid there.......

Ahh ok. LOL!

Amazing.

When an american marries a foreigner, he can not bring her into the Land Of Freedom, unless they go through months of paperwork, and even then, they can not be sure about the outcome?

I took my wife to europe shortly after we married - she now has permanent residence status in most of europe, hardly any paperwork was involved.

And automatically a work permit.

And automatically national health insurance.

(But she can not travel to that american island off our coast....oh well, blimey, nothing interesting there anyway).

I'm racking my brain (not hard to do with so little) . What island is that?

Amazing.

When an american marries a foreigner, he can not bring her into the Land Of Freedom, unless they go through months of paperwork, and even then, they can not be sure about the outcome?

I took my wife to europe shortly after we married - she now has permanent residence status in most of europe, hardly any paperwork was involved.

And automatically a work permit.

And automatically national health insurance.

(But she can not travel to that american island off our coast....oh well, blimey, nothing interesting there anyway).

Yeah I agree. It's not right. Took a year to get my wife here. I hear it takes like 30 days in the EU.

My smartass comment on another website:

"Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

Note:

Please fill out I-130, wait 6 months for approval, then 3 more months for an interview. (Unless of course we've bombed your country into the stone age, then you qualify for expedited processing.)

Welcome to the USA!!!

Sorry to hear that. Don't paint everyone with the same brush. I suspect this would have happened no matter what country the girl had a visa through. I'd take a guess and say she worked in the bar.

How can you say...... "Don't paint everyone with the same brush"

Then Say...."I'd take a guess and say she worked in the bar"

seems like your doing a bit of painting yourself mate....????

You might need to brush up on your English skills and read ALL the posts again. Don't just cherry pick MATE.

I have been told by many visa agents that it is nearly impossible to get a tourist visa after you are married. In fact a tourist visa is almost impossible without extensive paperwork.

My wife has a car, motor bike and land in her name. She was working at a 5 star resort that supplied her with a letter that she would be taking leave and had arranged a return to work date. To no avail. Visa denied.

It seems a fiance or immigrant visa are the choices.

She was told by the consulate to return on a date this month to pick up her passport with an immigrant visa. Of course that took well over a year.

Exactly. Because the consular official thinks the visa applicant will come to the US and then attempt to adjust status. It's all about intent to them. Using a non immigrant visa (tourist visa) with the intent of immigrating to the US is against the rules. A Thai being married or in a relationship with a US national is much more likely to be denied a tourist visa because of this. This is why it is better that the Thai national apply for the visa on their own, with their own proof of residence in Thailand etc. I know it seems counter intuitive, but it's how they look at it.

Can't use a green card as a tourist visa. 6-12 months out of the US, good chance of getting it revoked. 12+ months it will be revoked for sure. Green card is a permanent resident card. If you don't maintain permanent residency they will revoke it.

From USCIS website:

Maintaining Permanent Residence

Maintaining Permanent Residence You may lose your permanent residence status if you commit an act that makes you removable from the United States under the law in section 237 of the Immigration and Nationality Act. If you commit such an act, you may be brought before the immigration courts to determine your right to remain a Permanent Resident.

You may be found to have abandoned your permanent resident status if you:

• Move to another country intending to live there permanently. (You need to maintain domicile in the USA)
• Remain outside of the US for more than one year without obtaining a reentry permit or returning resident visa. However in determining whether your status has been abandoned any length of absence from the US may be considered, even if it is less than one year.
• Remain outside of the US for more than two years after issuance of a reentry permit without obtaining a returning resident visa. However in determining whether your status has been abandoned any length of absence from the US may be considered, even if it is less than one year.
• Fail to file income tax returns while living outside of the US for any period.
• Declare yourself a “nonimmigrant” on your tax returns.

Tourist VISA's are virtually impossible for single Asian Females to obtain. It does help that she shows ownership in land and has a job and bank account so it would appear she has no intention of staying or becoming a burden on the tax system. After 4 long years of denials and changing to a K! visa my wife has finally got a visa to join me in the United States. Its a frustrating process with many road blocks but you have to stay with it and be pressistant. As I said though a tourist visa is the most difficult to obtain with tall the new home land secruity laws. Good luck

Thanks steelepulse!

She is college educated but did not have a job prior to being made a part owner of the building. She just graduated from Payap University in Hotel Management last spring - good grades. A far as I know her assets of any significance are solely related to her ownership of the building and yes her name is on the official paperwork. I do not know about the tabien baan though I doubt she is on it as this just happened in the last year. I can find out if necessary. She took a lot of this paperwork (school transcript, marriage certificate, apartment ownership agreement, round trip plane tickets, etc.) with her for her interview but some of it was in Thai and most of it the guy just rifled through it without paying attention.

As far as what your friend said I agree. My other brother was a visa consul 20 years ago and says that if you catch someone having a good day then you may get lucky! By the way we have contacted him and he has no additional ideas nor can he pull strings anymore.

Thanks!

If she is Thai she can have a interview with a Thai interviewer and she can speak in that during her interview. Grandpa M

Yep. My wife had her interview in Thai. I think it is better if they have it in English, but what can you do.?

Rule number one never take your thai wife to america.You're just setting your self up for a world of hurt.

It won't take long for her to meet other americanized thai women.They will quickly teach her how to rid her self of her "old" husband. There will be plenty of young studs chasing her believe this.

The experienced thai women will take her in hand and show her how to divorce the old man get him to pay support and all her maintenance / True all true.The american courts will be sympathetic to her.

I witnessed this happen to a close friend. They did't want to let her in but he pestered them until they relented and let her go to US. She made his life a living hell. Cost him a lot of money and caused him much grief.

Sorry to hear that. Don't paint everyone with the same brush. I suspect this would have happened no matter what country the girl had a visa through. I'd take a guess and say she worked in the bar.

The age difference will keep them from getting a Tourist Visa!!! The government will assume she plans on staying and working. I would recommend them to apply for a Fiance Visa (Even though they are married here) or a Residency Visa!!!. This will take 2 or more years, but it would be futile for them to continue requesting a Tourist Visa!!!

Actually the visitors visa is the wrong one if he is already married. If they did their marrige through the embassy she is guarenteed entry on an immigrant visa. My wife was denied 2 times trying the visitors so the 2nd guy told us she was guarenteed on the immigrant one. Hope that helps. If they did not register with the embassy it is easy to do and can do now.

Well you threw good money after bad. On the lawyer and the visa. Immigrant visas are that. Intent to immigrate. You should get your money back from that lawyer.

The age difference will keep them from getting a Tourist Visa!!! The government will assume she plans on staying and working. I would recommend them to apply for a Fiance Visa (Even though they are married here) or a Residency Visa!!!. This will take 2 or more years, but it would be futile for them to continue requesting a Tourist Visa!!!

Where do you get 2 years? If he was in he US it would be 11 months maximum. Closer to 6-8 months in reality. Also, doesn't matter where there are married. Married is married. K-1 (fiancee visa) is not an option. Since he has lived in Thailand for more than 6 months, he qualifies for DCF (Direct Consular Filing) which would take around 3 months.

Also, once a marriage visa and subsequent green card is issued, it can't be used a tourist visa. Green Card holder must remain a resident in the US. Stays out of the US for 6 months to 1 year risk having the green card revoked for not maintaining US residency. Stays out of the US for more than a year will definitely end up having the green card revoked.

They used to issue a K-3 marriage visa, but that is no longer an option. It was a 2 year multiple entry visa into the US.

It is not simply the age !! I am 70 my wife 46 has a 10 year multiple entry for 6 months at a time,,, which is all we want,,, one thing for sure if she does not speak perfect English she should never ever consent to be interviewed in English a few people I know made that same mistake,

I wish you good luck,,,, you are not the first to have this problem which is very troubling

They tell you up front that they never tell you why you may be denied,

Once denied it gets tough.. because they did not tell why and someone else turned her down so there is a trend set had hard to break that barrier,,if someone else grants the visa then they are disagreeing with a colleague which could be difficult especially if the co worker is a superior.

Once denied the only way I know is to spend the $5,000 for a guaranteed visa. A friend whose wife agreed to an interview in English paid a firm the $ which would have been returned if no visa but they over came the hurdles.

Point me to the place I can spend $5k for a "guaranteed visa" That's frankly irresponsible to even make that post.

Every congressman has an immigration "liason." This helps sometimes in cases with USCIS when people are outside of processing times etc.. Your (wife's) case will be handled by the dept. of state... US Embassy in BKK. She will have to apply for the visa on her own merits. Husband has nothing to do with it. It only costs $140 to give it a shot. I know it sounds odd, but it's how they work there. I have seen people here that wanted to get a visa for their mom to come here because the Thai wife here in the US was having a baby etc. and get shot down because for some strange reason they think the mom will stay in the US and not go back to Thailand.

I'm with you I think it is BS, but it's how they work over there.

jdl, why was your brother's wife denied the visa? They tell you why don't they? so when you re-apply you can do better. AFAIK they are trying to keep out those who intend to illegally immigrate-which is why she should be prepared to offer evidence that she isn't and it sounds like you now know what these things are. My wife is going in a few weeks for her tourist visa appointment armed with her present job to return to, her house chanote and copy of my passport which will show that I live here as well as my chanote on my condo (maybe overkill?) and of course the return air ticket...if you have these should be ok, no?

We don't know for sure but assume it was a combination of age difference in the marriage and a lack of communication about her position with the business. I believe if your wife has as many documents as she can, has a good job and family to come back to, and if she is able to forcefully (politely of course) state her case that she has no intention of staying in the US, technically she should be ok. But then again my brother thought his wife would have no problem getting a visa seeing as they are legally married, he is a 27 year expat (7 in Thailand, 20 in South Africa) with a 6 year old son here who has no desire to ever move back to the States and we too have round trip tickets. Apparently they don't like you to purchase tickets before the visa is issued but of course that is not always possible. The visa officer just flipped through her paperwork and never even looked at the airline tickets. It sounds like his mind was made up after hearing the age difference and the fact that the son is not hers. Hope this helps.

Good luck!!

Let's separate facts from assumptions:

Facts:

1. Legally married: How is being legally married help her not to immigrate to the US? It is a fact that a person, married to a US citizen, can easily change her tourist visa, once arrived in the US, by requesting a residency status.

Get busted doing that it is a lifetime ban. It is illegal on paper although it happens alot.

Once again if you enter on a B1/B2 and they think you have immigrant intent, kiss it all goodbye. You will be turned around at the point of entry. It's a long flight back/ Remember a visa to the US is just that. An oppurtunity to enter. They can easily turn you around and send you back after sitting at the airport all night.

I could go on and on. It's late here in Texas. There's all kinds of ways/ If you have live in Thailand more than 6 months, go DCF.

My brother has lived here (Thailand) for 7 years if you had read the post you would know that. He has been on a Non B with a WP for 6 of those years and changed to Marriage Extension of Stay after they got married. Since you seem to think this post is not legitimate please only helpful advice would be appreciated. All I can say is that she has no intent on immigrating to the US - I do not know if that is possible to convince anyone but it is true. I cannot think of anything else to add. Thanks to all who have posted!

Not sure where you're coming from. Who said anything about a the post not being legitimate? I'm telling you how it is. Don't shoot the messenger. It doesn't matter if he lived in Thailand for 100 years. B1/B2 is all about her. Actually being married to him gives them the impression she will stay in he US.

jdl, why was your brother's wife denied the visa? They tell you why don't they? so when you re-apply you can do better. AFAIK they are trying to keep out those who intend to illegally immigrate-which is why she should be prepared to offer evidence that she isn't and it sounds like you now know what these things are. My wife is going in a few weeks for her tourist visa appointment armed with her present job to return to, her house chanote and copy of my passport which will show that I live here as well as my chanote on my condo (maybe overkill?) and of course the return air ticket...if you have these should be ok, no?

We don't know for sure but assume it was a combination of age difference in the marriage and a lack of communication about her position with the business. I believe if your wife has as many documents as she can, has a good job and family to come back to, and if she is able to forcefully (politely of course) state her case that she has no intention of staying in the US, technically she should be ok. But then again my brother thought his wife would have no problem getting a visa seeing as they are legally married, he is a 27 year expat (7 in Thailand, 20 in South Africa) with a 6 year old son here who has no desire to ever move back to the States and we too have round trip tickets. Apparently they don't like you to purchase tickets before the visa is issued but of course that is not always possible. The visa officer just flipped through her paperwork and never even looked at the airline tickets. It sounds like his mind was made up after hearing the age difference and the fact that the son is not hers. Hope this helps.

Good luck!!

Let's separate facts from assumptions:

Facts:

1. Legally married: How is being legally married help her not to immigrate to the US? It is a fact that a person, married to a US citizen, can easily change her tourist visa, once arrived in the US, by requesting a residency status.

Get busted doing that it is a lifetime ban. It is illegal on paper although it happens alot.

Once again if you enter on a B1/B2 and they think you have immigrant intent, kiss it all goodbye. You will be turned around at the point of entry. It's a long flight back/ Remember a visa to the US is just that. An oppurtunity to enter. They can easily turn you around and send you back after sitting at the airport all night.

I could go on and on. It's late here in Texas. There's all kinds of ways/ If you have live in Thailand more than 6 months, go DCF.

triplejjj : Lastly but most important. If she has a "history" on file, then there is nothing much you can do to get a tourist visa.

What do you mean by "history"? Is one denial enough to create a history that would deny her ever getting a tourist visa??

Thanks!

I'm not making any accusations, but if during a background check, her name comes up in another visa case, illegal activities, etc. If this was truly her first time applying for a tourist visa and she has no record, then you need to assume that she did not provide enough evidence to show that she has no intention of immigrating to the US.

Thai women get denied on a regular basis at the USEM in Bangkok. This is nothing new. I have seen them get shot down with 2 houses and a job. I have seen them get approved with no job and no property. B1/B2 is tough in Bangkok.

The age difference will keep them from getting a Tourist Visa!!! The government will assume she plans on staying and working. I would recommend them to apply for a Fiance Visa (Even though they are married here) or a Residency Visa!!!. This will take 2 or more years, but it would be futile for them to continue requesting a Tourist Visa!!!

Where do you get 2 years? If he was in he US it would be 11 months maximum. Closer to 6-8 months in reality. Also, doesn't matter where there are married. Married is married. K-1 (fiancee visa) is not an option. Since he has lived in Thailand for more than 6 months, he qualifies for DCF (Direct Consular Filing) which would take around 3 months.

Also, once a marriage visa and subsequent green card is issued, it can't be used a tourist visa. Green Card holder must remain a resident in the US. Stays out of the US for 6 months to 1 year risk having the green card revoked for not maintaining US residency. Stays out of the US for more than a year will definitely end up having the green card revoked.

They used to issue a K-3 marriage visa, but that is no longer an option. It was a 2 year multiple entry visa into the US.