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Here's some pretty good info for you:

Thanks for the replies. Let me try to start over and make this more clear. When i originally posted this topic my brain was a bit fried from working on this visa stuff all day.

Maybe I should have just changed my question to:

How do I file my I-129F in THAILAND?

--I file it with USCIS Service Center, and they have an office in Bangkok

-- To do this, I must prove that I have been residing in Thailand

This website Consular Offices Abroad Resume Accepting I-130 Immigrant Visa Petitions states the following:

To demonstrate residency in a consular district, American Citizen petitioners must be able to show that they have permission to reside in the consular district and that they have been doing so continuously for at least six months before filing the petition. Individuals who are in the country on a temporary status, such as student or tourist, would not be considered to meet the residency standard.

I'm trying to find specifics on how I show them that I can and have been residing here. I've called them and emailed them -- But they don't know!! They only quote the exact same vague information that is in the paragraph above.

I'm afraid that if I send my package in they will then say that my passport stamps aren't enough to prove that I've been residing here and that I must have a work permit or something to that effect.

I've been using the visajourney website as they have a FAQ and a guide for the k1 process. However when it comes to filing the I-129F for a K1 fiance visa it doesn't seem to provide info on my question above.

USCIS only processes I-129F at two service centers. One in Vermont, the other in California. You CANNOT file an I-129F in Bangkok.

That said, you can get married, prove residency for 6 months, and file an I-130 in Bangkok. It's called Direct Consular filing, and it is much quicker than filing it in the US. You will have to prove that your income was 125% over the poverty level for the last year (maybe last 3) when you file the I-864 etc. If you can't meet this requirement, you can get a co-sponsor in the US. They will not consider foreign earned income.

As far as proving residency, do you have a lease in Thailand? Maybe electric or UBC bills for the last 6 months?

What website are you looking at? You don't file I-130s at the "DHS Office", you'd go to the US Embassy.

Filling a I-130 requires you to be domiciled in the USA. Are you planing on moving back?

A couple things.

1. You can file I-130 in Thailand at the Embassy for an IR-1/CR-1 visa, but you have to prove that you have resided in Thailand for 6 months. It's called "Direct Consular Filing" Look here:

2. You can NOT file I-129F (fiancee visa) at the consulate, Only I-130. I-130 requires you to be married for an IR-1/CR-1 visa.

3. Some people may try to steer you to a K-3 visa. That visa is pretty much dead since Feb. 1 of this year. Go IR-1/CR-1

Look around that site a linked to above. It is the best resource on the net for family based immigration to the US.

Last time we got burgled they stole the wifes credit card. I never reported it as the thief spent less on the card than she did.

I just spit my beer all over my computer!! Killing me!

The guy tattooed "Ma pen rai" on his chest in Thai.

Yikes! A hardcore, but honest way to look at it. Nice writing.

Yes her biggest problem is the idiots who try to undermine her entry into politics by linking her with the fugitive. I really hope these blind ignorant people fail in their mission, and she can put pressure on Abhisit to deliver his road map in a genuine timeframe and with the sincerity which can only be good for the unity of Thailand. Hopefully she will bring a breath much needed fresh air into Thai politics, in the face of the rancid, divisive, boring comments, from certain areas, who clearly fear her entry into politics and development. Best wishes to her, she is clearly her own person with ambition and sincerity.

That's probably the best post I have seen around here in awhile. 100% agree with that. that said, if she does link herself to Mr. T, all credibility is lost.

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Please, one, just one real example of a protest group that uses RPGs against fuel storage tanks and occupied hotels, and kills soldiers, that was treated any kinder than Abhisit did. Just one.

You can't

which protest group used RPGs against fuel storage tanks and occupied hotels?

Like I said, you can't.

All this was well reported, though you already know that, but to continue your guise of public discussion for the sake of propaganda, I will continue.......

1. Google "rpg jet fuel storage thailand", among many reports ..........

Anti-tank rocket hits PTT jet fuel depot | Bangkok Library

2. Google "rpg hits dusit hotel bangkok.", among many reports ...................

RPG rockets hit Dusit Thani Hotel, no casualties reported : National News Bureau of Thailand

Politics News - RPG rockets hit Dusit Thani Hotel, no casualties reported

The RPG attacks occurred on May 17, hitting the 5th and 17th floors od the Dusit, as the United Front of Democracy Against Dictatorship (UDD) protesters retaliate against the military troops. The 22,000,000 liter jet fuel storage tank was set on fire by and RPG rocket on April 28th during renewed red violence.

For more information you can also see.

Terrorism and Civil Aviation Security: Problems and Trends

File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - Quick View

(RPG), anti-tank guided missiles (ATGM), heavy and light machine-guns, .... technical infrastructure (passenger and cargo terminals, hangars, fuel ... destroyed, and an electricity power station and two aviation fuel storage tanks were ..... worth $1000 in Thailand, wholesales for $110000 in Canada, with a retail ... http://www.comw.org/.../0503arasly.pdf - Similar

When I saw the references to destroyed electricity power stations and aviation fuel storage tanks, I thought they were referring to Thailand. However, this is an older study of terrorist threats to aviation security, predicting coming terrorist threats, now realized in Thailand.

I await your next propagandistic twist to the facts.

They didn't see them!

No one was ever found guilty in court.

They never found the person who pulled to trigger.

How do you know they were RPGs?

You can't trust those sources (but here there is a lot!!)

Completely switch subjects.

Outright denial.

Ignore.

Deny education level of posters.

Etc.

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But, I have faith, you will find one.

Not sure why you waste your time. All you will get in response is the airport thing. It's almost like China. Pretty soon they will be carrying little red books.

What a pity The Nation and Thai Visa didn't include the list of names published in some Thai newspapers yesterday, revealing the deposits and withdrawals of key red shirt leaders.

How they can claim to be ไพร่ ,peasants, the common man is truly ludicrous.

They did publish it. I can't remember if it was the Nation or BKK Post, but they published the names and the amounts. I can't seem to find it now. Strange.

Blah, blah, blah. plus AGAIN: Why repeating unfounded fantasies about how the other countries would act in the same or similar situation.

why don't listen what they said in the European parliament?. did any other foreign nation say: "Congratulation Abhisit, well done. You did exactly they right thing that have to be done."? No, nobody said something like that, except the international community of beer bar patrons in Thailand maybe and the board mob of ultra right wing extremist.

Abhisit said the number of 'terrorists' among red-shirt protesters was relatively small. Most red shirts were ordinary citizens.

<deleted>? Does the PM watch to much CNN and BBC, is he brainwashed by Dan Rivers?

what will the board mob of the ultra right-wing extremists say to such a comment?

I think they will probably agree for the most part. Nobody ever argued the point that the majority of the protesters were not armed with war weapons.

Beer bar patrons. That's actually hilarious. Talk about stereotypes.

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again, that all over the world the governments would had acted same as the Abhisit regime is an unfounded fantasy, plus it don't become true if it gets repeated all the time.

a reality check is to listen to the European parliament

Now you are just being silly. No government would allow a 2-month take over of the central business district of their nation's capitol. Especially not when the protesters were armed with grenades, bombs, molotov cocktails, military rifles, and handguns. And if the protesters turned their weapons on security forces, killing 11 of them and injuring some 500, the response would not be pretty.

yeah I can only imagine if some protesters tried to shut down Times Square in NYC for 2 months. Wouldn't last 2 hours. I would bet 99% of the US population would be behind the police/national guard if they went in to break it up.

But is was Ok for the yellow shirts to occupy governemnt house for 8 months?

Is was not ok. I didn't realize we were discussing that. But since you brought it up, I'm sure if it was these red folk, they would have burned it to the ground. I dont't recall 100 something being killed and 1000+ being injured.

This whole thing is starting to remind of Israel/Palestine. A bunch of children saying "he started it first!"

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again, that all over the world the governments would had acted same as the Abhisit regime is an unfounded fantasy, plus it don't become true if it gets repeated all the time.

a reality check is to listen to the European parliament

Now you are just being silly. No government would allow a 2-month take over of the central business district of their nation's capitol. Especially not when the protesters were armed with grenades, bombs, molotov cocktails, military rifles, and handguns. And if the protesters turned their weapons on security forces, killing 11 of them and injuring some 500, the response would not be pretty.

yeah I can only imagine if some protesters tried to shut down Times Square in NYC for 2 months. Wouldn't last 2 hours. I would bet 99% of the US population would be behind the police/national guard if they went in to break it up.

Did not intend to suggest Seh Daeng was a businessman, only that we was not, and didn't have the knack for it. He was driven bankrupt by lawsuits from two police chiefs over shady business, not necessarily his, as explained in the link that I provided that you removed.

As you pointed out, he is famous for his anti-police position as well as for fighting communists. Probably the greatest social divide in Thailand today is between the police force and the citizenry. How would you explain Seh Daeng eventually supporting Thaksin, well known for his support for the police status quo and corruption? I don't know the answer but is seems something changed for him along the way.

nah, that link wasn't that informative, but still the government thinks it posed are threat for the national security and i am getting redirected to:

58.97.5.29/annouce/www.capothai.org/

An access to such information has been temporarily ceased

due to the order of the Centre for the Resolution of the Emergency Situation (CRES)

under the authority of emergency decree B.E 2548 (A.D. 2005).

to avoid problems, such like that my entry get deleted or some smart board bullies start to argue that i cannot be in Thailand i removed the link.

i also removed the photo, thought it is not necessary to keep it in the quote.

well, why Seh Daeng "supports" Pol. Lt-Col. Thaksin? probably because Thaksin don't support the police corruption in that way as it is often repeated here on thaivisa und that argument only the argument of a simpleton. Seh Daeng definitely wasn't a simpleton.

much more than he supported Thaksin, he protected the Red Shirts, a counter balance to the military crackdown machina.

He is only the security, he always said.

Don't forget next to slashing commies Seh Daeng was also Buddhist, he saw his duties to serve the people. he followed the principle of the the 10 virtues of the king, Tossapit Rajatham, in which he saw a concept not only for an emperor or the sovereign, but any individual in a leader position, an executive of any organisation should use as guideline.

and day by day it becomes more clear who is worse than Thaksin ever did bad.

Seh Daeng didn't support the coup, Seh didn't support the Abhisit & Suthep regime.

Why he didn't support them, that should be your question. and the answer is obvious.

Laugh. Yeah Thaksin may have been against police corruption, but he took political/personal corruption to a whole new level. I wont go into all of them here, but a few that come to mind are the Ratchadapisek land deal, soft govt. (EXIM) loans to Burma to buy telecom equipment and services from Shin Corp, Paying 0 taxes on the sale of Shin corp in the sale to Singapore via Ample Rich.

Thaksin set the standard for Thai political corruption. I don't think anyone before or after will ever take that title from him.

Very interesting. Never thought I'd see Chuwit and Seh Daeng on the same side of an argument.

on the same side? what you mean?

They aren't. Seh Daeng called Chuwit "a person who makes a living from other people's tears, and a pimp"

While Chuwit maybe same as Seh Daeng criticized the Police for corruption, is Chuwit probably also somebody who paid brides to the police and was also accused that he did so in the demolition affair.

above i linked to an article about an court decisions that dismissed charges against Chuwit, insufficient evidence said the court and it was dark at night so it was impossible to identify anybody. That doesn't mean that Chuwit was evidently not involved and behind the demolition.

Sant Sarutanond as police chief the head of the investigation that didn't came, so Seh Daeng, forward with the right findings but protected the real culprits.

Chuwit, was the prime suspect, because of his ownership. to remove the tenant with legal actions and court rulings would had take long time, so the bulldozer came.

for a recap. The Nation, January 28, 2003 SUKHUMVIT BAR DEMOLITIONS: PM condemns 'mafia'

Same side as in against Kant. Just because Seh Daeng didn't like Chuwit, doesn't mean they both didn't immensely dislike the cops. I'll try to be clearer next time. Hence the statement I made.

Can a rich Thai just be a rich Thai and stay out of Politics. I guess the dirty money is always dirty no matter how much it is laundered

Why do you assume she is rich ??

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And why the slur about dirty money............Maybe you have a dirty mouth.( let me rephrase that, perhaps you need a wash )

I don't think she is rich, her father was not so successful in business, and he was bankrupt in some law suits by a couple of former police chiefs over some business deals. She does get his generous army pension for life, something that would not have happened had Seh Daeng been disbanded from the Army as discussed at one point.

Bankrupt in business? law suits over some business deals?

half true. Seh daeng wasn't into shady business activities, he only obtained his salary as Maj General. but he has a debts of 20 million. How comes?

Anyone remembers that in the middle of the night mafia style Sukhumvit Square demolition The demolition was illegal, but the way of choice to remove the tenants quick. A lot of people suspected that some higher ups BiB were involved.

Our hero Seh Daeng had the same thoughts and pointed the finger at some of these police chiefs, he also accused them of other graft cases.

well claiming that the BiB are up to no good is defamation and libel, so the he got sued for his words. as result he got a pay Bt20 million libel suit bill.

The Civil Court yesterday ordered a prominent army officer to pay former national police commissioner Sant Sarutanond Bt20 million in defamation damages.

The court found Maj-General Kattiya Sawatdipol had damaged the reputation of former commissioner Sant.

Kattiya, an Internal Security Operation Command officer, said he would appeal the ruling. He asserted he was within his Constitutional rights to seek the removal of Sant. It was that action that prompted Sant to sue Kattiya for defamation in October 2004.

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The court said it found Kattiya damaged Sant's reputation by launching a signature campaign in late 2003 seeking to have Sant removed from his post.

Kattiya must also pay interest on the Bt20 million at the rate of 7.5 per cent per year from the day the action was filed and until restitution is completed.

Kattiya must also publish the court's ruling in major daily newspapers for three consecutive days. And he was ordered to pay the plaintiff's legal costs.

The Isoc officer commenced his campaign to have Sant removed as commissioner of the national police in September 2003 by approaching then Senate President Manoonkrit Roopkachorn with his intention to collect the mandatory 50,000 signatures from the public.

Kattiya alleged Sant was a corrupt official and, among other things, was implicated along with former massage-parlour tycoon Chuwit Kamolvisit in the illegal dawn demolition of an entertainment area called Sukhumvit Square in January of 2003.

Kattiya has waged a long-running battle with Sant and made several allegations against him when he was police chief, including wrongful arrest and intimidation.

Civil Court says Sant was defamed

wow, starting a signature campaign can be expensive, same as saying something bad about the BiB. be careful what you say.

Not the only time that Seh Daeng was sued by police officers and he got sentenced in few cases also also to jail, for example 4 month for criticizing a police chief regarding to his crackdown on gambling dens and later for one year, or for 2x6month for claiming the police produce false evidence and runs a casino.. or six months in prison for blaming Sant to be involved in the extra-judicial killings related to the war-on-drugs.

Libel and defamation are criminal offenses in Thailand. Seh Daeng a criminal? all rulings being appealed and nothing yet got finalized.

Very interesting. Never thought I'd see Chuwit and Seh Daeng on the same side of an argument.

Just another reason to stay as far away from Chonburi as possible. I swear Pattaya has one of the highest per capita murder rates in the world.

Bangkok is Purgatory, Pattaya is hel_l.

Wow! I guess life is cheap in Thailand if you're a farang. I wonder if he killed a Thai what the sentence would be?

what's the difference from politically motivated terrorism and terrorism?

That's easy.

politically motivated terrorism is allowed.

Unless it's your home country burning.

From what I heard... ... prices went way down. Nana was empty. Just what I heard.

Even in the face of overwhelming evidence, hard line government supporters will lie, lie and lie again to cover their position.

The current lie is that the violent reds were more then angry youths.

A stone lie.

True, true...I never get tired of watching this when I read posts like yours.

I don't see how any normal thinking individual can watch MULTIPLE videos of the red shirt leaders screaming for the torching of the country and think the army, or govt. somehow set the fires to make the reds look bad.

Thailand may have just shot themselves in the foot, I think Thaksin has a lot to answer for but now because Thailand has now charged him with terrorism which carries the death penalty countries like the UK will not extradite him or anyone else who faces a death penalty.

May be they do not actually want him back?

Perceptive posting.

Thanks for helping to cut through the fog, Basileus.

If they take the death penalty off the table, then extradition can proceed.

The Supreme Court of Canada, in the case United States v. Burns, (2001), has determined that Canada should not extradite condemned persons, unless they have assurances that the foreign state will not apply the death penalty, essentially overruling Kindler v. Canada (Minister of Justice), (1991). This is similar to the extradition policies of other nations such as Germany, France, Italy, the United Kingdom, Israel, Mexico, and Australia, which also refuse to extradite prisoners who may be condemned to death.

Source:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_Canada

This happens all the time between Canada and the EU, and the US. The US takes the death penalty off the table, and they are extradited. I'm sure him and his lawyers are studying which countries enforce this. I doubt Dubai is one of them.

Basically a while back the Thai government screwed up Thaksins travel by playing with his passports and issuing arrest warrants on corruption cases and making him apoltical ho potato. Thaksin eventually got Montengrin citizenship which because of certain agreements with the EU made it easier for him to travel in certain EU countries again and because the nature of the crimes was only corruption meant most countries in the EU would turn a blind eye if he stayed quietish.

The issuance of a terrorism arrest warrant is another matter which raises the stakes. Terrorism is the ultimate scary buzzword in the west. Throw in that Thailand has alwys been a player albeit a minor one in the wests war on terror. Throw in the destruction of Bangkok landmarks in a dramatic manner which few if anyone thinks wasnt associated with the reds who are connected to who? Throw in the Thai government are indicating they regard Thaksin as a not just a major criminal but a terrorist and consider what any western government would think if a country harboured those they labelled as terrorists. It makes flying under the radar and being semi-ignored on a Montenagrin passport a lot harder than when it was on some corruption charges.

It will be interesting to see if the charges are honoured by the international community. Having Kasit presenting the case doesn't help with its objectivity. Maybe time for a change at the foreign ministry.

Im not convinced anyone is worried about charges being honoured. If it came ot a question of that it would be decdied by a local court and no doubt be appealed right to the top level by both sides which would be very time consuming and so probably best avoided by Thaksin which I would guess is one aim of this ie have him think I better avoid the countries with extradition treaties that would use due process ( Cambodia may remain safe on this one as they skipped due process). However, I would guess the main aim is to create a diplomatic hot potato again who most countries especially western ones would rather not have on their soil.

There is also a darker issue that Thailand knows that the last thing the west wants is any precedent of a friendly allied state providing harbour to someone another freindly allied state has labelled a terrorist, which brings us back to hot potatoes.

In all this discussion you forget all one fact: Thailand has the death penalty (not only for terrorism). Every fully civilised country (US only partially) cannot extradite in a country with the death penalty. Before Thailand can ask for extradition of Thaksin the dealth penalty must be abolished (all real Buddhist would be happy) or exclude officially

the death penalty as punishment for Thaksin.

Sorry, that is wrong. The US routinely extradites people from Canada, Europe and other places that do not have the death penalty. The only requirement is that the U.S. will not seek the death penalty. If he faces life in prison with no parole, they hand them to the U.S. no problem.

Any problem in Surin or Buriram??

Perhaps Khmer people have a bit more shall we say smarts.

I really did enjoy World Trade Center, the trouble must stop ASAP regardless of the cost.

Yea! They are so smart. They killed all the intellectuals and professionals. Leave the dummy and uneducated to run the country.

Yeah is it year 0 in Thaksin land yet?

My apologies, it appears that Jatuporn is in custody, my previous post was a mistake of mine, I was reading an article from a year ago, that presented itself and I did not notice the date was 2009

So I apologize, even I can be wrong when speed is so available

Remember the old saying and rule # 1 that says I am never wrong and rule # 2 says if you disagree then go to Rule # 1:

Red Shirt leader out on MP privileges to return to face charges on May 27

BANGKOK (NNT) -- Puea Thai Party MP Jatuporn Prompan, one of the core leaders of the United Front of Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD) has vowed to turn himself in to the police on 27 May 2010.

After being released due to his political rights, Puea Thai Party MP Jatuporn Prompan stated that he would submit to charges against him on 27 May according to Director-General of the Department of Special Investigation (DSI) Tarit Pengdit.

The Director General of the DSI stated that his deparment has already lodged charges of terrorism against three UDD core leaders who surrendered to police yesterday. Those three UDD core leaders are Puea Thai Party MP Jatuporn Prompan, Mr Nattawut Saikua and Mr Kwanchai Praipana.

Police allowed Mr Jatuporn to go free due to his rights as a member of the House of Representatives. However, Mr Tarit said that Mr Jatuporn pledged that he would turn himself in to the police again near the end of this month.

Mr Tarit added that the Criminal Court has issued arrest warrants for Ousted ex Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra and ten more UDD leaders on terrorism charges.

However, the court later suspended the arrest warrant on terrorism charges issued for Mr Thaksin for undisclosed reasons and decided to convene on the matter further on 24 May 2010 at 9.00 hrs. Mr Tarit admitted that he was surprised at the court's decision.

Laugh. I'm sure he's already in the air on his way to Dubai or Montenegro

I agree that the Red Shirt leadership were foolish in not accepting Abhisit's compromise without trying to attach ridiculous conditions, but fail to understand how their surrender yesterday meant they abandoned their followers. Were they supposed to encourage their followers to fight to the death?

This is a stupid and irresponsible editorial.

I think it is a well writen article by somebody who is well informed, unlike yourself............... Google the "jonestown massacre" and see how that guy Jones led masses of people in the wrong direction (almost a thousand followers commited suicide).............. Just as these lovely Isan folks, Ill-educated as most are, have been easily led astray. If you really think it is about Democracy -- you're naive......... If you notice that most of us back the Govt and a minority back the red-shirts----- If you know anything about Democracy, or life in general, you will know that the majority rules and wins............

If the majority support the government, why didn't Abhisit call an election, win it and then none of this would have happened. The blame rest firmly on his shoulders. You cannot deny people democracy year after year and expect no consequences.

You are right, in a democracy the majority rules and wins..... Democracy is NOT what is happening in Thailand. It hasn't seen democracy since the coup.

Man I am getting tired of typing this. NO ELECTIONS ARE REQUIRED UNTIL SOMETIME IN 2011. They had elections after the coup in 2007.

Let's say he called elections next month and the democrats and their partners won? Since the reds didn't get the outcome they liked, should the govt. bow down and call elections the next month?

That would be like the McCain supporters burning down Washington because they wanted elections called after Obama was in office for a year. There are laws regarding elections and when they should be held.

Abhisit offered them elections a year early. They just became more violent. They DONT want elections. They want their paymaster Thaksin back in power. It's really quite clear. I don't understand why some posters can't understand this.