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59 minutes ago, simple1 said:
France doesn't have a marvellous record of treatment of Muslims, does it. I'm sure you're well aware of the French occupation of Syria and Algeria, let alone the terrible mistakes made at the end of WW1 in conjunction with the British (I am British). Though it's no excuse for terrorism, I assume there is underlying resentment.
I am to silence you and cohorts - what a laugh, shoe is very much on the other foot.
Can't say any more to you and your cohort in this topic as likely will slip up and post what I really think of the right of centre posters. Already got me suspended a number of times????
I thought France was not totally absent of your personal history ... reason why I don't mind to disagree, lol
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"As of today, 92% of the USS Theodore Roosevelt crewmembers have been tested for COVID-19, with 550 positive and 3,673 negative results," the Navy said in a press release Saturday. Crozier sent a memo to more than 20 people pleading for help when only dozens of people onboard the ship had tested positive for the virus."
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2 minutes ago, simple1 said:I asked for factual info, not opinion. What country & who is looting -sounds like hyperbole
I live in France , this is factual, compared to your propaganda aimed to silence us.
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5 hours ago, simple1 said:
Got any factual based info that Muslim heritage people kill because they had a tough time reaching the West or are frustrated as they cannot access their preferred destination; sounds like complete nonsense to me. The murderers are motivated by violent Islamist indoctrination / propaganda from the likes of Wahhabism, Al Qaeda, ISIS.
Ask those stranded in the Calais "jungle" who were dispatched all over France, and how these 3 Sudanese ended up in this south eastern France town of 10 000 souls,. (including 7 victims, + their families), while they prefered to stick all together, the numbers being their force ( get to know how things work).
But I agree with you, the complete non sense for us, here is to finally let people take place by force where they should not, with their habits they won't give up.
The murderers have pre-existing conditions to turn their frustration against the host country of disbelievers into, something that sounds familiar those days, we here more and more understand the mechanism of it and are less and less blinded.
My country is not there to be looted.
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3 minutes ago, zhounan said:
Imagine my surprise! Another economic migrant false refugee, and it will be worst, thanks EU and UNHCR!
do-gooders will tell you that they flee dictatorship in their home countries for a better life- and then, turn amok because the journey to the West was a nightmare, ended in France while they dreamed of the UK or Sweden, and finally find some relief to their frustration by slaughtering the milk-cow.... they put it on mental illness, so it's not their fault, they have not the codes ... all is forgiven..
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28 minutes ago, simple1 said:How many millions do Muslim majority countries host; by far in excess of the West. On the other side of the coin many Muslim majority countries are authoritarian dictatorships without internationally compliant legislation enacted for protection and processing of asylum seekers / refugees.
The Sudanese refugee who finally turned out to be an Islamist remained in contact by phone with his wife - still in Sudan. So, he fled the conflict, feared for his own life, but left his wife... so typical..
It has been noticed that most Sudanese asylum seekers speak Arabic ( which is rare among sub-saharians) but this is the proof of the growing influence of Saudi Arabia, dating from the civil war against the Christians.
By attacking passers-by, he declared that he felt in line with his religion once he had finished.
He asked one of them if he was from North Africa, but.. as he replied "I am French" he got stabbed in the back... "in the back".. so typical
We in the west do not need to feed people who hate us.
And of course , his Sudanese friends knew nothing of his feelings towards disbelievers..,
Sympathy for the victims of their host country?
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17 hours ago, pacovl46 said:
It’s not about how many of them there are, it’s about some nutcases abusing religion, my point being, it’s not the religions that are bad - it’s the people who abuse them to suit their needs.
It's not even searching how and why the victims had to be killed in your point ( any compassion , by the way?) , it's not a matter of religion to be bad or not, it's how a religion governs all spheres of life from personal hygiene, organization of society to politic and economic life ( and that's how the home country they leave is and stays submitted to it and its population kept poor).
And we, here - who accomodate their needs - we, who are the victims in the end- foot the bill.
It's the host country that is abused.
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"when Trump broke his silence on the incident to criticize Crozier's letter — Modly acknowledged making the decision with Trump in mind, telling the Washington Post columnist David Ignatius"
link to businessinsider article here below :
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"Battle of the USS Theodore Roosevelt: a Timeline"
Starting January 17
https://www.defenseone.com/threats/2020/04/timeline-battle-uss-theodore-roosevelt/164408/
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Prof Derek Hill, Professor of Medical Imaging, University College London (UCL), said: "We understand the PM is on a type of breathing support called Continuous positive airway pressure (CPAP), which is commonly used in treatment of obstructive sleep apnea. Experience in Italy and other European countries has shown that CPAP can be effective in COVID-19 patients, at least initially."
Link to the Science Media Center (SMC) here above
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2 hours ago, pacovl46 said:
Why do you think he came?
And why do you think they did not go to SA, Kuweit, UAE instead of Europe as they complain having to live in countries of disbelievers, and describe themselves as fighters?
This time it's a Sudanese, last one before it was an Afghan, both arrived as asylum seekers, what do they have in common?
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2 hours ago, pacovl46 said:
Why do you think he came?
Ever conflicting countries, booming populations, no education, religion for the poor to remain submitted , unadaptated tribal mentality, frustration, illegal economic migration, etc, etc.. this is just the begining of an increasing burden without benefits.
Always wondering how easily people use knives - and how they turn their hate towards us into mass killings.
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15 hours ago, pacovl46 said:Mate, please! Do you have any idea how many Muslims there are worldwide? Now take the number of attackers and do a quick calculation and you’ll see that the number of attackers is minuscule! You can’t judge an entire religion by the actions of a “few”! That’s like saying, for the lack of a better example (I’ve got nothing against the English) all the English are alcoholics, judging by the actions of English vacationers on Mallorca!
Also, most Muslims don’t condone the actions of the Islamic militants at all for two reasons, first of all, it puts them all in a bad light, which is clearly evident by your post, secondly most of them would just love to go about their regular life just like anyone else on the planet!
People seriously need to get off the “Islam hate wagon”. It’s individuals who commit those horrendous attacks, not the religion itself. It’s like in the US with the gun control issue. It’s not the guns who pull the trigger and kill, it’s the people!!!
1965 Africa 250 million , 2019, 1.35 billion , in 60 years 8 billion for 11 billion on our planet. 8 billion poor therefore, mostly of Muslim religion, religion of the poor, Including a percentage of Islamist fanatics. Even only 10% of fanatics is huge. And the threat is hugely underestimated.
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The contents of several phones and a computer seized at the killer's place' are being analyzed. Several observers noted, that just over a week ago, IS had called on its community to act, taking advantage of the health crisis and while "security and medical institutions have reached the limits of their capacities." in some areas ". In an editorial dated March 19, Al-Naba, the organization’s weekly digital newsletter, encouraged its followers to attack “apostates” in times of crisis in order to weaken them.
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"Two months before the novel coronavirus probably began spreading in Wuhan, China, the Trump administration ended a $200 million pandemic early-warning program aimed at training scientists in China and other countries to detect and respond to such a threat."
"Dan Coats’ 2019 “Worldwide Threat Assessment: “the United States and the world will remain vulnerable to the next flu pandemic or large-scale outbreak of a contagious disease that could lead to massive rates of death and disability, severely affect the world economy, drain international resources, and increase calls on the United States for support.”
https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/Newsroom/Testimonies/2018-ATA---Unclassified-SSCI.pdf
"So far this year, the intelligence agency chiefs have not agreed to release a public worldwide threats assessment or testify in public, because, officials tell NBC News, they are reluctant to discuss intelligence that might displease President Donald Trump. "
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"The U.S. Navy captain who was fired earlier this week over a letter raising alarms about the severity of an outbreak onboard the aircraft carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt has the coronavirus, The New York Times reported Sunday, citing two former Naval Academy classmates close to the captain and his family. Capt. Brett Crozier reportedly began showing symptoms before he was relieved of his command on Thursday."
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“Our captain did what he could to protect us and our health,” a sailor on board the carrier told Reuters, speaking on condition of anonymity.
“With them firing our [commanding officer] it feels like they are saying they don’t care about us,” the sailor added.“We are really disappointed in how they handled it and we want our captain back.”
https://globalnews.ca/news/6773729/coronavirus-captain-crozier-navy/
"Secretary of Defense Mark Esper said Tuesday evening that he had not "had a chance" to read the four-page letter sent by the captain of an aircraft carrier with an outbreak of coronavirus."
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4 hours ago, Andrew65 said:
Under Human Rights laws whether due to race, gender, religion, sexual orientation, political views.
So pretty much anyone, potentially.Yes and it could be that this same Sudanese Islamist granted refugee status, based on who knows what narrative, supports forced marriage or excision, or blasphemy laws... alll other valid motives to ask for asylum as well...
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27 minutes ago, Thongkorn said:Because No free handouts and objects to point their vile ways and beliefs at, if they hate western Countries and People so bad why live there,
During the search carried out at the killer's place, handwritten documents with religious connotations were found in which he complained having to live in a country of disbelievers. 2 other Sudanese living at the same place are actually interviewed in relation with the attack.
That is the main problem they cause to the host society.
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Again... last terror attack in France occured on January 5
Sudan is one of the breeding grounds for Islamism.
The asylum application mechanism is an effective method of allowing massive illegal immigration to take place.
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And here they come... "Amid virus fears, Pakistan searches for pilgrims from mass gathering" ... do the right thing, and good luck ( "According to organisers, a number of foreign nationals also attended this year's gathering from countries including China, Indonesia, Nigeria, and Afghanistan.")
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From the FT : "this page provides an up-to-date visual narrative of the spread of Covid-19 so please check back often as we will be refreshing it with new graphics and features as the story evolves."
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6 hours ago, Nyezhov said:Not that I even agree the issue is one of fault past Chinas criminal negligence, are you saying that Cuomo was perfectly prepared for this? Can a physiscian freely prescribe medications in NY btw?
"Cuomo wins over 87% of New York voters with his handling of coronavirus crisis"
Even 70 percent of Republicans in New York give Cuomo a thumbs-up on the job he’s doing. (Fox)
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Will there be enough ventilators? Who gets access ?
Man armed with knife kills two in attacks in southeast France: mayor
in World News
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So, according to you:
1/ Sudanese are Islamists because Sudan, is an Islamic Country... this is breaking news LOL
2/ He went to France as asylum seeker to commit a terror attack - being Sudanese, therefore an Islamist -
3/ Refugees are males - (sometimes unaccompanied minors) who flee letting their elderlies, wifes and children in greater danger, but that's exactly how illegal economic migrants smuggle into Europe,
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illegal economic migrants are refugees and refugees are Islamists because they live in Islamic countries...and sometimes commit terror attacks . Correct?
That's what you say!
Then, what is the difference between an "Islamist" living in an "Islamic country" and a muslim ?
The error France made was to grant refugee status ( documents, lodging, training, and work) to a Sudanese illegal economic migrant - thinking he was a true asylum seeker but not an islamist, not a terrorist - fatal error.