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On 3/7/2020 at 5:26 AM, sead said:
I dont see any problem. No one complained when Greece, Italy , Croatia, Germany let all through their borders couple of years ago
the jug goes to the well until it breaks
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25 minutes ago, JustAnotherHun said:No! Never! Impossible! Welcome!
a single mother of 4 can't make ends meet without social welfare - this one will probably never work and she is 37.
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21 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:
I saw the news item on Al Jazeera today about the clashes on the Greek border.
They were all fit young men that seemed well fed and unharmed.
Also mentioned that the Greek navy has over 50 vessels out turning back the boats and the new policy is to take new illegal immigrants to Athens and then deport them back without a hearing.
The tide is beginning to turn, thanks to Erdogan.
if the E.U gives in to Erdogan's blackmail, then Morocco (an other emigration and transit country) will feel entitled to follow the move, and European countries that have'nt done it yet, will switch to the far-right..
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"This map presents the current migratory situation in Europe. Each circle represents one of the main migratory routes into the EU. Click on a circle or one of the countries of origin to see more details."
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" refugees" for their Survival, you mean like Asia Bibi, or "refugees" by opportunity , because these migrants find life too hard in Turkey - that's what they declare when interviewed? or economic migrants?
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24 minutes ago, simple1 said:Your claim can only be empirically backed up by the number of declined asylum seeker refugee applications by country. Regards the OP, using Germany as it is the most frequent talking point, out of 46,146 application by Syrians in 2018 only 69 were rejected outright. Other origin countries such as Nigeria the rejection rate is about 50% of all applications. For the future it would be good for you to use easily available data rather than rhetoric.
https://www.asylumineurope.org/reports/country/germany/statistics
let me explain to you how things work, and how migrants know they can make it :
- to pretend to be an asylum seeker = no deportation while the case is supposed to be scrutinized… a challenge already for the people in charge of
- even if asylum is denied , deportation is not effective, since people are not kept in detention, but free to move
- if ever a child is born, the child is not deported, and as the child can't be separated from its parents, the family finally stays
- migrants without documents are not allowed to work, so they finally benefit of social welfare, reason why they prefer Europe to S.A or the UAE, etc..
- of course they can work illegaly too, be employed by relatives, etc, reason why they choose countries where they already have connections
- and finally they settle, help another relative to make the move, ans so on
You will so understand why Erdogan migrants came from almost all régions of the world, Morocco, Pakistan, Iran, Irak, etc, etc..
keep your statistics and principles, and face the reality, smugglers are more cleaver than you imagine
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3 hours ago, simple1 said:The issue of young men seeking asylum is likely mainly twofold:
1) Don't wish to be conscripted into a dictator's oppressive military
2) Safer for young men to undertake the first steps, rather than other family members
If I were able to make a difference would liaise with UNHCR / and relevant government/NGOs to contribute additional funding / resources for the camps. In parallel pressure M.E. host countries to implement applicable laws and resources to qualify as UN designated 'safe country'
The main reason for youg muslim men to smuggle to Europe is the fact that there they can at least live and raise a family even without working, thanks to social welfare. For in their respective home countries, no work = no money = no honey, etc... Don't underestimate the main economic motivation, behind so called" asylum" rights.
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20 minutes ago, simple1 said:
Many EU countries abide by their international obligations / Rule of Law. As you mention up to those who have a democratic government to update their laws if the majority wish to do so. Unfortunately where there is a right of centre ruling presence and have rejected their previous legal obligations for asylum seekers / refugees, to date, it comes hand in hand with moving to authoritarianism e.g. Hungary.
Sweden, Hungary.. countries with a population of 10M each should - according to you - accomodate migrants from overpopulated countries, endlessly ?
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3 hours ago, simple1 said:Did EU have this massive Muslim refugee influx prior to the coalition invasion of Iraq in 2003? Prior to 2003 EU wasn't it mainly asylum seekers from the Balkans. However, most of them were rejected as economic refugees. Of course prior was the bitter Algerian / French colonial war was also a factor. There were other conflicts, but not the same impact as Iraqi cluster<deleted>. On the subject of Saudi Arabia go to...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrians_in_Saudi_Arabia.
I assume you are capable of identifying other Islamic majority countries, excluding Turkey, who in total host millions of Muslim refugees.
Europe has absolutely no lesson to receive regarding migrations, be it for legal / illegal economic migrants, asylum seekers / fake asylum seekers, etc... Europe is since centuries a very sought after destination for people from all over the world. Ask the Turkish diaspora who supports Erdogan.
It's time for Europe to reevaluate asylum laws and address human trafficking issues, smuggling, etc, etc...
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1 hour ago, simple1 said:
True. On the other side of the coin Turkey has refused to provide shelter / support for the additional refugees from Idlib. Accordingly, they are stuck between a rock and a hard place. Not surprising Turkey has declined to take on the addition burden considering they already provide for at least 3.8 million refugees / asylum seekers. Many returnees to Syria aren't being welcomed, but subject to interrogation and torture. Accordingly what would you do in their situation?
it"s the resume of ever conflicting muslim countries producing the exodus of their youth to non-muslim countries, in search of a better life since décades if not a century.
Greece says "enough" and so do european populations think. What would you do in their situation?
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"Refugees and migrants seen heading to the borders reportedly include Syrians, Iranians, Iraqis, Pakistanis, Afghans and Moroccans."
"In Istanbul, buses are even dispatched by AKP district mayors to encourage refugees to leave.
On site, they discover that their trip is even free and organized.-
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3 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said:
The UK doesn't need to go to the extent of becoming a Cayman Islands type economy. Think more like Ireland or Luxembourg.
A great number of economists agree that lowering taxes like corporation tax and attracting more business can have a positive effect on total tax take. Low business tax policies don't necessarily lead to a reduction in tax income.
like Ireland, part of the EU, so it was possible without Brexit,
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1 hour ago, CG1 Blue said:
Thankfully it is not you negotiating on behalf of the EU. The EU negotiators will compromise in the end, IMO. As they did with the WA.
And if they don't, c'est la vie!
K.I.S: "no deal", "no deal" only, but a plain "no deal"
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second airport -> noise pollution
bridge -> definitely turns a tropical "paradise" island destination to a convenient suburban city
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1 minute ago, Cryingdick said:
You don't get invited to such an event by accident. Especially if you are on the main stage. Theyhand out hats. You go to make a trade deal. Why are you so obstinate? It prevents you from being objective.
The inauguration date matching with the 1st day of the US President is the result of an arrangement
Trump lined up for Grand Opening of World's biggest Cricket Stadium
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1 hour ago, Cryingdick said:
Oh well at least people showed up. Go to a Biden event. I would wager money it is a bigger event than any democrat in history has ever had. At least he knows who the president of Mexico is.
February 24th 2020 was the official inauguation day of the world's biggest cricket stadium : Motera
Any arrangement for any US President to take part to the Inauguration Ceremony is a good deal on that day.
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"In the stadium, many people were wearing customised white hats saying
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""It's not as though you have China right on your border..."
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Trump: "I hear it’s going to be a big event. Some people say the biggest event they’ve ever had in India "
Modi tweeted an old Indian saying in response: “The guest is God.”
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It's a challenge to check if a mosque is an islamist propaganda tool in the West, when the language used is'nt the one of the host country, let alone the ideology and the cult spread within its prémices.
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NB: the above quote is from White Christmas13 (post n°114), not from me..
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14 hours ago, White Christmas13 said:
That is what the distributor of the film says.
Neon, the US distributor for the subtitled film, shot back on Twitter.
“Understandable. He can’t read.”
Trump apparently also ignored the fact that "Parasite" previously won (french) Cannes festival 2019 Palme d'or . LOL
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U.S. death toll from coronavirus hits 19, New York declares emergency
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Posted · Edited by Opl
Let's quote Trump instead.. as we can trust him to tell the truth:
Trump said doctors he's come across as the administration tries to get a handle on the outbreak have been surprised about how much he knows about COVID-19. "Maybe I have a natural ability," he said. "Maybe I should have done that instead of running for president."