mania

What i like most about these little Kwackers is the availability of service manuals. Thats definitely a big plus imo.

I saw you mention that earlier.

Do you have a link or can PM me? I have the parts manual with all the exploded views & parts numbers which is great.

But a service manual would be nice too.

http://www.motorcycle.in.th/filemgmt/index.php/220

Thanks & yes owners manual & even parts manual the dealer uses I have

But not service/shop manual

Your link is an owners manual

Thanks though

What i like most about these little Kwackers is the availability of service manuals. Thats definitely a big plus imo.

I saw you mention that earlier.

Do you have a link or can PM me? I have the parts manual with all the exploded views & parts numbers which is great.

But a service manual would be nice too.

Have the dimensions of the proposed ice rink been disclosed?

It will be an Olympic-sized hockey rink.

Really?

I thought you were all joking about a ice rink.

I have never ice skated & would love to try it

Probably an unrepresentative sample too.

Probably true because if they vote for sidestepping the Constitution

they are definitely unrepresentative of myself & those I know

Wonder what the going rate for a used 2012/3 N250 will be.

My guess would be 140k

The problem is as always in Thailand ....These N250's for the most part are not paid for.

The balance due is still high for most Thai owners

If you see any for 140 or less it will be only a dealer who took one in on trade for that.

Just my guess

Give it another year or two though & of course prices will be better.

Still a bit early for 2013 prices to get much lower than that I think.

Of course a falang or rich Thai that paid cash may opt out at a lower sale price

but those will go to friends without advertising.

We will see though & I could be wrong

don't know. better ask CBS news. I can't find the survey details on the net. maybe you can.

Mai Bpen Rai as the question was rhetorical.

I know the poll is at best a couple thousand people if that

I think it is going to be a very long time before Snowden sees a Constitution with hard won rights & liberties.

His flight from the US will pretty much assure that whatever he wanted to accomplish will NOT be accomplished; at least not by him.

Yes of course & I agree. also think he always knew that & was willing to pay this price.

Is he afraid at times & wonders if he did the right thing?

My guess would be yes surely same as any sane person who makes a great sacrifice for what they believe in.

At the moment of truth all who take a stand will wonder

His accomplishment stands alone & always will. That he will not accomplish it, I would guess was not the design.

"Not by him" is like saying Paul Revere was only a messenger

To alert the people is in & of itself a good deed.Even if he fails in waking them.

Guess they (Real Motosport) had a ride yesterday

The US should be quite glad about Snowden being in Russia. They really haven't been too generous with providing him with a platform from which to express his views.

I think Mr. Snowden is going to live to regret his decision. He has done nothing to do to protect the freedoms he wishes to restore and he has now deprived himself of the ability to pursue his aims.

As he sits effectively silenced, the intelligence community is revamping it's strategy so that by the time his information is available, it will be irrelevant.

Yes I mentioned something similar in one of these threads.

Meaning in some ways I wonder if Snowden should have done anything at all given the lack of outrage.

You see more outrage over the NSA from other countries than the one with the supposed history of freedom & rights.

But I know a person like Snowden votes his conscious not what may be popular or make him popular.

He still sees a Constitution & a History of hard won rights & liberties. When he saw them being trampled he spoke out

as a real patriot would.

He knew he could not do so within the controlled area so had to do it the way he did.

Whether it harvests any couch potatoes is yet to be seen.

If not then the citizens of the USA can rest assured they have the government they deserve.

They may sleep well in the false security of having traded hard won liberties & rights for perceived temporary

security

Yes, compounded interest is better for deposits, but at the interest rates we are talking about it means next to nothing. 2.65% p.a. compounded monthly equals a real interest of 2.6824% p.a. while the same interest rate added twice a year equals 2.6676% p.a. On a deposit of 1 mio Baht the difference would only be 148 Baht per year.

Sophon

True but when you have a few million in it helps & at the end of the day we are talking small amounts all around

Also mainly ease of use & not having to have another account for visa extension proof of funds. As last year

they did not accept fixed accounts as proof of liquid funds (Although they should one would think )

My first year I did one fixed with BKB & had to do the file for my taxes back at the end of the year deal.

Not too much trouble but still a few trips here & there that I no longer need to do this year.

Lastly as you say these rates everywhere is nothing to write home about so I like being free to move to something better

investment wise if it comes along without breaking a fixed account. Which usually means losing pretty much any benefit at all & being relegated to straight savings interest rate which is truly tiny.

So, I could buy replacement bars for work & change the fairings & in effect get 2 for 1

??

I don't see why not actually

& fairings here are quite cheap

The large sides on the Ninja are 2900 each

Also seat & tail sections are the same already

All you need are front fairing sections,headlight assembly & handlebar assembly

Ok, I thought the Z model engine had been modified??? thanks for the clarification i really enjoyed the position of the Z when I tried it

Yes a lot of folks do like it.

The position change you felt was all down to the handlebars as all else is the same afaik

No engine changes? I thought I read lower torquerband??

heheh well yes of course the 300 engine has changed

But I meant as far as offering a ninja 300 & a Z300

the only difference between Z & Ninja is some cosmetics

I would guess they will since this naked style is very popular here

Dammit how does one embed a Youtube!

Turn off the BBCode mode

(light switch looking button in upper left of the reply window)

Then just paste the address in

This site is really screwed up lately for this, quoting & even replying/browsing

Will that mean they will also produce a Z300??????

Yes I wonder? Since there is only a 250z & no 300z as far as I know

Back when it came out it was designed for the Asian markets

http://www.checkoutreviews.com/new-kawasaki-z-250/

I dont see why they wouldn't though as it is just a few different fairings & lights + speedo

is all I think was changed on the 250 version Z from the Ninja

Also they are going to have ice skating.

I wonder if Alaskan malls have ice skating.

No they have indoor white sand beaches with wave generators

mania 1+

This writeup http://www.motorcycle.in.th/article.php/New-Kawasaki-Ninja-300_Serious-Improve when you read it is a marketing writeup for helping rise the numbers of sale.

Yes for sure & inaccurate. That site seems to be a shill & I have noticed before.

In this article

They try to make it sound as if the 300 has a new frame, body work etc yet it is the 2013 250 with engine mods & abs

A revised steel-tube frame for the Kawasaki Ninja 300 adds extra stiffening to the engine mounts, swingarm pivot and steering head, and contributes quite a portion of the motorcycle's three-kilogram weight increase over the previous entry level Kawasaki.

I wonder if it was planned for Thailand all along, but they decided to fully focus on supplying primary markets (US, EU, Aus) first, so there was no shortage of bikes of parts in them for the first year or so.

I think Honda learned a lesson with the 250 and 500 series, with customers in primary markets left waiting and unsure of delivery and parts.

Kawa played it right I think. Fully supply and focus on the markets that matter most, then after a year start taking care of secondary markets instead of trying to take care of all at once and have customers lose brand confidence.

Could be but also back when I bought in December I knew about the 300 so asked.

I asked both the main dealers in BK & Cm + also wrote to Kawasaki Manufacturing in Thailand

They all said the same...No 300 for at least 2 years

So I dont know & think maybe they thought they would keep both models going but now

think it easier to have the one only? Not sure.

Then again since the Honda 500 arrived they probably want to not lose folks to it although I think they are very different bike types.

I do think Kawasaki needs to think of not only brand confidence in reliability/parts availability etc

They need to also look at things like price/value stability

What they recently did by plunging the Z1000 price 100k to clear their stock was just wrong I think.

Imagine how folks who just bought felt?

That is a large amount to see vanish from a price/value you just paid for.

They should have chosen a more orderly fashion of liquidation if that is what they wanted or suck it up as parts even

Wow I found this review of the Ninja 300 in Thailand http://www.motorcycle.in.th/article.php/New-Kawasaki-Ninja-300_Serious-Improve

Yes & from that review the reason I kind of felt they killed the Ninja spirit & dumbing it down for the commuters

Kawasaki seems to have recognized that the extremely peak power delivery of the old 250cc was a bit of a turn-off for some, as the extra 47cc have been attained via a 7.8mm elongation of the piston strokes, which now measure 49mm instead of 41.2mm. This adds a lot more leverage, so the crankshaft now spins more readily, and a relaxed, effortless engine persona is the result. IT also means that short-shifts are firmly on the riding menu,

Bit of a turn off? It is what made the small ninja a ninja

If they wanted a "relaxed engine persona" they can buy a squared Honda

Dont get me wrong the increased displacement & the slipper clutch, larger throttle bodies are great

But they should have achieved the displacement increase thru bore & stroke not just stroke.

& forget ABS on a small light bike...Or do as KTM & give you the option of turning it off.

Not bad for a 300cc iam still keeping my deposit on the duke 390 thou

That is actually the mid sized bike that is interesting me the most these days

Did they give you a idea on sales price yet?

Thanks

So how long is that 2.65% rate guaranteed for?

As it's not a fixed account that rate could change at any time!

Otherwise you are probably right.

Yes as CM mentioned it is not locked & is up to the bank

I think it has been lowered twice in the last 1+ year

But like I said overall? This is best for me.

Remember too fixed working "for" you can just as well work against you if something better comes up no?

But the main reason in my case is ease of use, no tax & compounded interest in reality is better than

interest paid 6 months late & based on original deposit 6 months before.

I,ve just trawled the major banks looking at the best deals and found these two to

come out on top:

For a fixed term deposit a/c

CIMB Thai Bank has the best rate of 3.4% for 12months 1million bt to 10million bt

Interest is taxable at 15% offer ends 31st July.

For a Special Savers a/c

Krungsri Bank has 2.65% with a minimum of 100,000bt and permission of two withdrawals

per month.

Interest is paid monthly and is taxable at 15% only when or if it exceeds 20,000bt in a year.

This is why I continue with Krungsri even at a lesser rate

1- It is not fixed so not automatically taxed & may also be used for visa extension proof of funds

2- Even if it approaches 20k interest they warn you to open another with them & just move the money over

3- Interest paid monthly & compounds. Other banks pay twice yearly & based on only original deposit

Overall I have not found a better deal when taking it all into consideration

if i had a 2013 N250 id be really pissed

For me, not really. I'm very happy with my new model 250 it's just 50cc more. Had the 300 only been available at 182,500B I probably would have went for the CBR500. The 158,000B that I paid was considerably less than the CBR and that made the difference for me. I have no regrets.

Just think of the poor sods that bought the 2012 ninja, now they must be really really pissed.

Tell you the truth me too

Because like you I paid 158k since I bought in December before the tax increase.

But also like I have said many times this engine has a characteristic I like

I like it as far away from squared as possible & this 250 is equal to the 600RR

or KTM 390 in that respect but of course less HP

I have been noticing parts for the Ninja here are about a third of what the US charges so there is one small benefit

to being where they manufacture

I recently had to buy a new speedo unit & it was 5k baht

In the USA they want close to 600 USD or 18,500 baht

For the N250 or another bike?

Yes for my 2013 N250

Heheh thanks Pastafarian I forgot all about this thread I started & posted the info

earlier today with some colors here

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/574558-2013-kawasaki-ninjette-250-breaks-cover/page-23#entry6644095

Sorry, was so excited I didn't check the 250 thread!

No you picked the right one & I forgot & posted in the wrong one.

But yes many are excited & I hear the que is quickly filling up already

I have read some of the colors is at 50+ units reserved already