kraxlhuber

On ‎5‎/‎9‎/‎2017 at 5:04 PM, ubonjoe said:

Marriage certificate plus a copy, signed copies of your wife's house book registry and ID card.

What If I  would  need to apply for an single  entrance  non O  ( not married?  or married  and the wife is refusing to come with me to the immigration as it is in my case,  I am not divorced  and no such thing is in progress

I had  already  an advise to cross the border  at Savannaketh and  ask at the immigration for a  tourist visa  and return to Thailand  and get 90 days  to sort things out, I have already a  non O  immigrant visa from the Thai embassy in Vientienne which it seems to me is useless as it was based on  marriage  even the  wife was not present, all done by an agent sitting in a chair  and  an folding table outside the embassy all I neede was   a copy of the marriage cert, a copy of her  ID card  and 6000 baht  and the AGENT filled in the application form and  took  2000 baht out of the 6000 baht  given to him by me ( how  generous he  was) LOL and his bro  led me to the gate  and  gave me the Q number and  within 15 min I was the proud owner of  a non immigrant O visa, only to discover  upon returning to LOS to discover  that the  whole process of  crossing twice the Lao and Thai border  had  eaten 5 pages of my passport and  I had  when  going to Bangkok  to apply for   anew passport and  by then in 3 to 5 weeks time  my  visa  will have  lapsed and the whole travail  was for nothing

I went to CW  only to be told  on my first application form when I filled in  my hotel address as residency that this is not valid or any visa  application esp.  Non o, non a et al.

I then  got another form  filled in  the  apartment address of my daughter  and upon returning to the lady issuing q numbers and  make prechecks that the address of my daughter is in Pattumthani  city and not Bangkok so they send me away as my daughter never has and never will get  a  residency  ( Tambian baan ) as all he occupants of that particular  apartment block has  only temporary students  residing.

So I was standing on the strret  again  pondering what next I could do.
I have  a Tambian baan  from my  last ( maritual adobe) but the old lady and the kids  have since moved out and  live somewhere else.

My  Non Immigrant visa O is  still valid until 5th of July,m very little time  to do avery much.

In The process of obtaining the non O in Vientienne and having to return with the  police report ( Forensic) and that twice  my passport has  all pages  fully stamped  and I have  applied for a new  one  which should be  ready in 2  weeks.
The letter fof income validity lapsed today and I will send  for the heckof it another letter to the  consulate in cChiang Mai  asking for  another  letter of income, that will take the time   2 to 3 weeks  even  sendt to me by EMS

Just now, kraxlhuber said:

that  unsolicided withdrawal of a fee for  another transaction was taken out of my Savings account which I  keep updated for the  visa  application and now the proverbal... hits the fan

have  immediately  topped up my savings acc

if you look at my other posts  here in TV forum since 2009 you can draw a picture of me, was  once or twice kicked out of the forum for  a few days  som nana  b'cause  I spoke  my mind   and that's  what a forum should be 4

I posted  apic of my daughter  just  20 min a go and was  scolded by Paz  why I

Just now, paz said:

No, you will be able to extend 60 days, total 120. Relax, it will be OK.

I went to Chaeng Wattana  immigration in Bkk and they said  I must show a residence  document in Bkk to do any  extension or conversion, they said  go back to chiang rai to the e mpty house  the kids  are now  both in Bangkok  so  am I

Yes ir  I am positive that this  saga  will have  a good end.
when I visided  a few days ago an travel agency cum visa  help agent there was  an old  brit a year younger  with the samestory as my  with  visa  problems  alike  and he  has gone  the hard way  and forked  29 000 baht out  and got his  non ) and  retirement  visa But is not possible  to apply for  a re- entry visa  with that !!! ??? AND when I left the  travel agency  cum  visa  help agency three other  old  boys like me  were  waiting for their turn to get their visa the lady  said  WE cover everything 800000 Baht surety  applications  etc etc  just hand over the DOUGH

Cannot the  1/2 year term fee for my girl is due   in a weeks time  just have to pay again 50 000+ baht

1 minute ago, kraxlhuber said:

Paz means  Peace /upon you

Pls  explain  what I have to bring with me  if I travel to Savannaketh/Laos  to apply for a Non Immigrant O visa I still have the medical report and the police  clearance have  over  480 000 baht in my bankaccount ( that was interrupted by a  unknown to me  withdrawal of  30.000 baht when conducting a deriviate sale ( sorry  a mistake the  security  sales  agent said) well I was  sorry too, hope they return the money to me as promised. You are looking at a really p....d off  fellow  senior member now I have  to probably wait again for   2 months  to season the  485.000 baht by then  my visa from Laos  will expire on the  5th of July

that  unsolicided withdrawal of a fee for  another transaction was taken out of my Savings account which I  keep updated for the  visa  application and now the proverbal... hits the fan

have  immediately  topped up my savings acc

3 minutes ago, paz said:

Be positive. Now you can count on the advice from UbonJoe and few others which is 100% correct, always.

Once I had to fly twice to Europe from another country (not Thailand)  because Immigration did not wanted to move an appointment a week earlier. I regret to not have handled the problem another way, but I was of too high ideals at the time, and didn't knew better. The time and money you've spent trying was in the best interest of you and your family, so look at it with pride. Unless others that waste time here spewing hate fueled by alcohol  and delusions.

if you look at my other posts  here in TV forum since 2009 you can draw a picture of me, was  once or twice kicked out of the forum for  a few days  som nana  b'cause  I spoke  my mind   and that's  what a forum should be 4

Just now, kraxlhuber said:

You can imagine how I feel  having all the  wrong advises  and  requests  from officials, I had even to return on my first  attempt to get a  non O or any other visa  at the thai  Embassy in Vientienne  after I travelled  alone  at night  with my car from Chiang ai to Nong Kai for  14 hours ( inclusive  naps and coffee breaks only to been told to return to Thailand and get a new medical and  a police  clearance nice treatment from  somebody

Paz means  Peace /upon you

Pls  explain  what I have to bring with me  if I travel to Savannaketh/Laos  to apply for a Non Immigrant O visa I still have the medical report and the police  clearance have  over  480 000 baht in my bankaccount ( that was interrupted by a  unknown to me  withdrawal of  30.000 baht when conducting a deriviate sale ( sorry  a mistake the  security  sales  agent said) well I was  sorry too, hope they return the money to me as promised. You are looking at a really p....d off  fellow  senior member now I have  to probably wait again for   2 months  to season the  485.000 baht by then  my visa from Laos  will expire on the  5th of July

Just now, paz said:

No, you haven't to travel to Germany. Not sure if has been said already but you can go  to Savannhaket  Laos for a Non-imm O visa based on having a Thai child. No money needed. Don't let the rage take over you.

You can imagine how I feel  having all the  wrong advises  and  requests  from officials, I had even to return on my first  attempt to get a  non O or any other visa  at the thai  Embassy in Vientienne  after I travelled  alone  at night  with my car from Chiang ai to Nong Kai for  14 hours ( inclusive  naps and coffee breaks only to been told to return to Thailand and get a new medical and  a police  clearance nice treatment from  somebody

3 minutes ago, paz said:

See how good others have been to you, you irrupted in a thread just to ask something for which you can find the answer on Google in 2 seconds, and still got an answer.

 

If a doctor was visiting you for a serious matter, would you like any idiot to open the door ans ask about their nose itching?

 

 

OK  I am sorry just have to be more considerate, thanks for your  advise anyway

9 hours ago, Robin said:

"Since you are married to a Thai, you only need proof of 400,000bht in bank ( or equivalent income) not 800,000bht"

 

I have been accompanied by my wife a every visa extension, and never has this been mentioned.

Two years ago, a Mae Sai, I tried to used our joint K-bank account and was refused.  Immigration officer said if 2 names in the bank book then I needed to have 2x800,000 baht (1,600,000 baht) and  seasoned for 90 days.  since then I have never used out joint account, but keep the required money in an account in my own name. 

At my last visit I was told that I should get the bank book updated at the beginning of each of the 3 months before applying for an extension.  This despite having letter from K-bank stating that I had more than 800,000 for 3 months.

 I live since  1981  in Thailand  married to the  Thiai  wife since  23 years, not one single Thai immigration official had pointed out that I have could  applied   for an retirement visa  when I was 50 years old I had to travel to Singapore  and  Germany to get me  a visa  and  cost me  an arm and a leg even my own wife must have  known about the 50 years old  rule but was MUM

1 minute ago, paz said:

OP, why are you posting pictures? What that has to do with your immigration problem? Are you OK? I'm asking friendly.

 has to do all  to do with my immigration problem don't be so heart-tless

Help me and my children Carina  is on the Right side of the picture she studys  Art& Design in her 3rd year

On ‎5‎/‎27‎/‎2017 at 0:18 AM, RichCor said:

Some unsolicited advice:  When you can... CLOSE  all of your current bank accounts, open new accounts at a different bank.  

It is all too easy to get access to monies in accounts if they know the bank, account holder name, and a bank employee sympathetic (or stupid enough) to allow the withdrawal.  Confuse them, change banks!  

 

Yes, you may have to wait until the current application process is completed. But please consider changing banks afterwards.

 

 

Yes, you can apply to live in Thailand long term if you have a Thai child or children.  It's yet another option that you'd need to research and talk with your local Immigration office about their requirements.  It's not a simple process.

Here I am, soon broke, have  money in the bank  which I cannot  touch, need it  for the  combined income  sum of 800 000 baht  Robin  hood was   a gentleman compared to ???

I have  2  children the girl 21  is attending  a  GOOD  expensive university and in the process drained  my resources as well 3 years  study  Art& design is no peanuts  but she insisted  3  years a go and I was still working the oilfields I am in expolraion of oil& gas,n Saudi, Angola  anme it ut since the oil price collapse have Zero work  same as many many of  my fellow  workers

My children are 10%  dependent to their father and the mother is  not contributing one baht to their livly hood   she made a run with all that ill-gotten money and  what  can I do have to stay until the Bitter End.

I don't ask  for much just for  a way out of this mess and nowhere to turn,  everybody says  Som Na Na or selfinflicted misery OOOH LOOORDY

5 hours ago, RichCor said:

They're coming to get you.

 

 

 

 

Didn't feel this one.  But the one on April 18 felt like exactly like someone had kicked my chair -- I even turned to look, though I already knew no-one was there. 

I llive in the earthquake prone  area, we have  even hot-springs  nearby and  since many years the  ground  shakes frequently  and  tiles  falling of the bathroom walls and the dogs  going crazy ( so do I )  once an shock-wave  went straight through my house and me, it was like  Gooses  walking over my Grave GRRRR

Just now, kraxlhuber said:

Bad behaviour

Bottles  can kill, either from the % content or from the use as a weapon, don't do either

On ‎1‎/‎30‎/‎2017 at 3:55 PM, Shroud said:

Good.

Bad behaviour

19 minutes ago, RichCor said:

As you say your 90-day permission to stay may not last long enough to complete the application process, you can either ask Immigration if it is possible for a temporary extension long enough to complete the process

 

...or you will need to exit Thailand and get another Visa.  

 

If you have to leave then I'd recommend you do the research on acquiring a 'Tourist Visa' in preparation for acquiring a "Non-O conversion plus application for 12-month extension" based on retirement (and the 90-day in-country reporting responsibility that goes along with it)  

--OR--  

go the 'other' route of getting an actual 12-month Visa (that unfortunately requires you exit and re-enter Thailand every 90-days).
  

 

 

Forget this.  You said the house was sold, you don't live there anymore, so this isn't a current document any longer. Don't use it.

 

You need to find a temporary place to live, get rental documentation that will satisfy the local Immigration responsible for that location, then apply at that Immigration location.

time is not on my side  and I soon run out of  funds my pension from Germany is very low there is nothing left in assets to be sold  all gone the  money  squandered by my wife

1 hour ago, RichCor said:

As you say your 90-day permission to stay may not last long enough to complete the application process, you can either ask Immigration if it is possible for a temporary extension long enough to complete the process

 

...or you will need to exit Thailand and get another Visa.  

 

If you have to leave then I'd recommend you do the research on acquiring a 'Tourist Visa' in preparation for acquiring a "Non-O conversion plus application for 12-month extension" based on retirement (and the 90-day in-country reporting responsibility that goes along with it)  

--OR--  

go the 'other' route of getting an actual 12-month Visa (that unfortunately requires you exit and re-enter Thailand every 90-days).
  

 

 

Forget this.  You said the house was sold, you don't live there anymore, so this isn't a current document any longer. Don't use it.

 

You need to find a temporary place to live, get rental documentation that will satisfy the local Immigration responsible for that location, then apply at that Immigration location.

I have checked  with a  Petchabaan office  and the computer says  the Yellow Tabian Baan book is  still valid, the house was  sold  with the right of  redemption the wife took all of the  850000 baht and run, my lawyer says, we must go to court  as I am a foreigner  and  proofing a Thai is  a criminal  when cheating  a foreigner  is  hard to proof, I am entitled to any  proceeding of  sale to a rate of 50%, the case  must be judged in Court and will cost me  about 120 thousand baht to start with for the lawyer,  to  make a court case  500 000 baht, forget it, the wife  goes  away with the loot unscratched, the money also belongs to our kids in school. I am soon be broke as  she has debts of  2,2 million baht proofed by claims from financing and  private people. In Her opinion  when the  wife or husband  occurs debts  the other partner has to share  the debt 50%, no way can be  cheating and stealing be condoned.

My lawyer went to court and the judge  said  *name edited out* should  divorce  his wife  and share the proceedings from the sale of assets, but there is no more money left from all that cheating and  stealing, all stashed  away or given away, but none for my children and me

my residency Yellow Tabian Baan is in Chiang Rai province,  everywhere I go for   a visa   or extension says , go back to  Chiang Rai and  apply there as  it is  the responsible  office for me, the Mae Sai immigration officer treated me with  disdain and  I really did not misbehave, I am just old,  73 this year

 I better try the  Pattaya immigration office  and I shall print out all the good  advises in this topic and  remember the better part of it

has any member in this forum  good or bad  experiences with Pattaya immigration??

4 minutes ago, kraxlhuber said:

 

The worst part pf all that mishap for not getting the required   visa or any visa is that my passport has  all the pages  stamped full, had to go to Bangkok to  apply for a new one and by way of  express service hopeful get  a new one  in 3  weeks, but what I do then?  I am not  a whinger but had my fill

1 minute ago, kraxlhuber said:

 

Rich Cor, good post but not accurate,

I tried  all tha had all the right certs and  proofs  but there was always a snag, I am sitting here now having spend  for the  non o visa  the better part of  100 000 baht  as I had to wait 3  weeks for the requested  police  clearance ( Forensic and the medical report and now  waited 2  months   before  applying for the extension which was  again denied,

I come to think; I am not tooo ugly to deserve such mistreatment from  someone  sitting in an office chair and issuing at will some  visa/ extension or not most time  as I travelled I stayed  at some hotel, really not  a nice  period  in my life.

How is it? Is it difficult to get  a visa  based on  supporting my Thai Kids in University did any member of TV tried to obtain  a dependent support visa, there is  such thing !!

 

 

1 minute ago, kraxlhuber said:

Negative  tried that on e  at Chaeng Wattana immigration office but was told that for obtaining an extension  I have to have  a residency or  a rented  space in Bangkok and a yellow tabian baan book  with the proof  of  either  a rental contract or  proof of ownership of a house or condo with the Chanote  and  ownership papers.

I have a Foreigner  'Pink ' ID card  which is superceding the yellow Tabian book, to no avail some  officer have not even seen the new ? ID card .I have split with my wife  and don't live  anymore  at our house in Chiang Rai Province, the wife moved out as I found out that she sold the house and land  and my 3 cars  as well, the 2 kids  are in Bangkok and  study, I cannot go back as I am  afraid  that I can go to harm alone, now staying with the kids in Bangkok and try to get my non o  extendet or get a new one  from somewhere, my present non O visa from Laos is expiring on July 6th

1 minute ago, kraxlhuber said:

Negative  tried that on e  at Chaeng Wattana immigration office but was told that for obtaining an extension  I have to have  a residency or  a rented  space in Bangkok and a yellow tabian baan book  with the proof  of  either  a rental contract or  proof of ownership of a house or condo with the Chanote  and  ownership papers.

I have a Foreigner  'Pink ' ID card  which is superceding the yellow Tabian book, to no avail some  officer have not even seen the new ? ID card .I have split with my wife  and don't live  anymore  at our house in Chiang Rai Province, the wife moved out as I found out that she sold the house and land  and my 3 cars  as well, the 2 kids  are in Bangkok and  study, I cannot go back as I am  afraid  that I can go to harm alone, now staying with the kids in Bangkok and try to get my non o  extendet or get a new one  from somewhere, my present non O visa from Laos is expiring on July 6th

Rich Cor, good post but not accurate,

I tried  all tha had all the right certs and  proofs  but there was always a snag, I am sitting here now having spend  for the  non o visa  the better part of  100 000 baht  as I had to wait 3  weeks for the requested  police  clearance ( Forensic and the medical report and now  waited 2  months   before  applying for the extension which was  again denied,

I come to think; I am not tooo ugly to deserve such mistreatment from  someone  sitting in an office chair and issuing at will some  visa/ extension or not most time  as I travelled I stayed  at some hotel, really not  a nice  period  in my life.

How is it? Is it difficult to get  a visa  based on  supporting my Thai Kids in University did any member of TV tried to obtain  a dependent support visa, there is  such thing !!

1 minute ago, RichCor said:

 

You certainly are going about this the hard way.

 

It used to be that...

- you'd get a simple Tourist Visa (TR), or Single Entry Tourist Visa (SETV) outside of Thailand,

- enter Thailand on the Tourist Visa

- go to either Bangkok or Pattaya (Jomtien immigration)

- apply for a 90 day Non-"O" immigrant visa [actually an extension] (with at least 15 days remaining on your current entry)

- so 2 trips to immigration to get the visa and entry stamps.
- completed TM87 form with an attached 4cm X 6cm photo attached to apply for the visa.
- financial proof needed is 800k baht in the bank, or 65k baht income or a combination of the 2 totaling 800k baht.
  (To prove income you will need to do statutory declaration with your Embassy).
  The money in the bank would be proven by a letter from the bank confirming you balance, and your bank book.

- getting the Non-"O" 'conversion' stamped in your passport 

Then...

you apply for a 12-month extension of stay based on Retirement.

(with same financial proof used before, documents within the required timeline)

 

 

Oh, and since you'll be receiving a new passport you'll need keep and show BOTH Passports.

 

Negative  tried that on e  at Chaeng Wattana immigration office but was told that for obtaining an extension  I have to have  a residency or  a rented  space in Bangkok and a yellow tabian baan book  with the proof  of  either  a rental contract or  proof of ownership of a house or condo with the Chanote  and  ownership papers.

I have a Foreigner  'Pink ' ID card  which is superceding the yellow Tabian book, to no avail some  officer have not even seen the new ? ID card .I have split with my wife  and don't live  anymore  at our house in Chiang Rai Province, the wife moved out as I found out that she sold the house and land  and my 3 cars  as well, the 2 kids  are in Bangkok and  study, I cannot go back as I am  afraid  that I can go to harm alone, now staying with the kids in Bangkok and try to get my non o  extendet or get a new one  from somewhere, my present non O visa from Laos is expiring on July 6th

On ‎4‎/‎10‎/‎2017 at 10:02 PM, Ubonquest said:

Would you share which visa service you used in Vientiane? And did you have to provide the Medical and Police records?

on my first attempt to obtain a  visa  at the  Thai embassy in Vientienne I was shown a slip of  paper  stating that  the Embassy requires  from me  a police report ( Forensic) and  medical examination report from a good Hospital ( did mine at the UEK Ubon cost me  8000 Baht)

unnecessarily as I used on my second attempt the service of  an agent  sitting outside the embassy on a chair  and  handling visa applications for a fee. So I paid the man 6000 baht and got the filled -in form from him and  2000 baht return for the visa  fee  from him, in that case I paid only 4000 baht  for my visa non O valid  for 3  months which is now  slowly expiring as the income letter from my German consulate is  expiring  on May 28 and I must get another one  takes  about 3 weeks or if I show up with the papers   = on the spot, which I might do now  at the German consulate  in Pattaya, BUT my visa  non o- is  expiring on 6th of  July,

On top of all that  some sticky finger got into my  bank-account  and withdrew  30 000 baht and  do not now have the  continuity of the  savings  account for the combined  method (800000) baht  parked in my savings  account,

I have  the  sum required  now again for te  combi 800000  but must wait  again for 2 month and  by then all is lost and  expired, very frustrating situation I am in, I separated from my wife  in December  as  I found out  about her  deceptions

there is  something fundamental wrong to go to  such steps

Any rescue  here  to still use  my non O visa from Laos??

Just now, kraxlhuber said:

No married visa  anywhere  if the wife is not present to sign the papers for the visa, so I was told in Mae Sai and in Vientienne, Have you tried  that or any othe member of TV??

Guess not b' cause it wont work, no wife present- no visa Bingo

 

I went today to and  travel agent here in Bangkok, name withhold)  and asked what I can do to et  anew  non o as  soon as I got my new passport in about19 days, she  said to me , no worries Ill help you BUT its a bit costly and takes up to ten days, no border crossing needed only 29.000 baht to hand over and then some more  2500 baht for  and 30 day extension  in case my present via  is  expiring during the application  process.

My non O visa  for Thailand is still valid for another 40 days and I have to hurry up to get a new  non O, ( retirement visa) also I was told that as of now its difficult to get a multible entrance  visa for  whatever, maye somebody wants us t get out and not come back to LOS for any reason any advise?

19 minutes ago, kraxlhuber said:

Steve, good  advise

this  a sad visa run and I hope not many other  member  suffered  at the hands of Thai officials  when trying to get a visa to stay with his family, but  my wife and I have  separated since December 2016 and she refuses to help me  with a married or any other  visa, if she doesn't help me  how I can support my 2 children  who depend on me?/

  over the last 22 years I  did many extensions  to stay.

What is my situation now,

My financial requirements  application.

Catch 22,  I am now in Bangkok trying to sorting things  out regarding a new  Non O visa  as the one from Laos  is  expiring on 6th of July( amply time  I Guess.

Unfortunately my first application in march 2016 at the Thai embassy  for  a non o visa  was denied, on reason that I must have  a police clearance ( Thailand) and  a new  medical report from a Thai Hospital .

So I went back to Udon Thani and  waited  for 16 days for the police report but was  afraid  my new  application for a non O  will be denied  again for  whatever  reason. I am  German and 72 years old  and live in Thailand for  over 22 years

hence I  paid the agent sitting outside the embassy 6000 baht for  assistance, he  asked me for   the ID card of the wife and the married  certificate,

At the Mae Sai immigration I  was sdenied  a visa extension or  a new visa  as my wife was not with me  at the first application time in February 2016, I was told to leave Thailand  and get   new non  O visa  abroad, so I drove alone for  14 hours  in my car to Nong Kai  ( had in between a blown rear tire and  was almost killed) tried my luck, in Vientienne Laos at the Thai embassy

No married visa  anywhere  if the wife is not present to sign the papers for the visa, so I was told in Mae Sai and in Vientienne, Have you tried  that or any othe member of TV??

Guess not b' cause it wont work, no wife present- no visa Bingo