kraxlhuber

4 minutes ago, kraxlhuber said:

 

The worst part pf all that mishap for not getting the required   visa or any visa is that my passport has  all the pages  stamped full, had to go to Bangkok to  apply for a new one and by way of  express service hopeful get  a new one  in 3  weeks, but what I do then?  I am not  a whinger but had my fill

1 minute ago, kraxlhuber said:

 

Rich Cor, good post but not accurate,

I tried  all tha had all the right certs and  proofs  but there was always a snag, I am sitting here now having spend  for the  non o visa  the better part of  100 000 baht  as I had to wait 3  weeks for the requested  police  clearance ( Forensic and the medical report and now  waited 2  months   before  applying for the extension which was  again denied,

I come to think; I am not tooo ugly to deserve such mistreatment from  someone  sitting in an office chair and issuing at will some  visa/ extension or not most time  as I travelled I stayed  at some hotel, really not  a nice  period  in my life.

How is it? Is it difficult to get  a visa  based on  supporting my Thai Kids in University did any member of TV tried to obtain  a dependent support visa, there is  such thing !!

 

 

1 minute ago, kraxlhuber said:

Negative  tried that on e  at Chaeng Wattana immigration office but was told that for obtaining an extension  I have to have  a residency or  a rented  space in Bangkok and a yellow tabian baan book  with the proof  of  either  a rental contract or  proof of ownership of a house or condo with the Chanote  and  ownership papers.

I have a Foreigner  'Pink ' ID card  which is superceding the yellow Tabian book, to no avail some  officer have not even seen the new ? ID card .I have split with my wife  and don't live  anymore  at our house in Chiang Rai Province, the wife moved out as I found out that she sold the house and land  and my 3 cars  as well, the 2 kids  are in Bangkok and  study, I cannot go back as I am  afraid  that I can go to harm alone, now staying with the kids in Bangkok and try to get my non o  extendet or get a new one  from somewhere, my present non O visa from Laos is expiring on July 6th

1 minute ago, kraxlhuber said:

Negative  tried that on e  at Chaeng Wattana immigration office but was told that for obtaining an extension  I have to have  a residency or  a rented  space in Bangkok and a yellow tabian baan book  with the proof  of  either  a rental contract or  proof of ownership of a house or condo with the Chanote  and  ownership papers.

I have a Foreigner  'Pink ' ID card  which is superceding the yellow Tabian book, to no avail some  officer have not even seen the new ? ID card .I have split with my wife  and don't live  anymore  at our house in Chiang Rai Province, the wife moved out as I found out that she sold the house and land  and my 3 cars  as well, the 2 kids  are in Bangkok and  study, I cannot go back as I am  afraid  that I can go to harm alone, now staying with the kids in Bangkok and try to get my non o  extendet or get a new one  from somewhere, my present non O visa from Laos is expiring on July 6th

Rich Cor, good post but not accurate,

I tried  all tha had all the right certs and  proofs  but there was always a snag, I am sitting here now having spend  for the  non o visa  the better part of  100 000 baht  as I had to wait 3  weeks for the requested  police  clearance ( Forensic and the medical report and now  waited 2  months   before  applying for the extension which was  again denied,

I come to think; I am not tooo ugly to deserve such mistreatment from  someone  sitting in an office chair and issuing at will some  visa/ extension or not most time  as I travelled I stayed  at some hotel, really not  a nice  period  in my life.

How is it? Is it difficult to get  a visa  based on  supporting my Thai Kids in University did any member of TV tried to obtain  a dependent support visa, there is  such thing !!

1 minute ago, RichCor said:

 

You certainly are going about this the hard way.

 

It used to be that...

- you'd get a simple Tourist Visa (TR), or Single Entry Tourist Visa (SETV) outside of Thailand,

- enter Thailand on the Tourist Visa

- go to either Bangkok or Pattaya (Jomtien immigration)

- apply for a 90 day Non-"O" immigrant visa [actually an extension] (with at least 15 days remaining on your current entry)

- so 2 trips to immigration to get the visa and entry stamps.
- completed TM87 form with an attached 4cm X 6cm photo attached to apply for the visa.
- financial proof needed is 800k baht in the bank, or 65k baht income or a combination of the 2 totaling 800k baht.
  (To prove income you will need to do statutory declaration with your Embassy).
  The money in the bank would be proven by a letter from the bank confirming you balance, and your bank book.

- getting the Non-"O" 'conversion' stamped in your passport 

Then...

you apply for a 12-month extension of stay based on Retirement.

(with same financial proof used before, documents within the required timeline)

 

 

Oh, and since you'll be receiving a new passport you'll need keep and show BOTH Passports.

 

Negative  tried that on e  at Chaeng Wattana immigration office but was told that for obtaining an extension  I have to have  a residency or  a rented  space in Bangkok and a yellow tabian baan book  with the proof  of  either  a rental contract or  proof of ownership of a house or condo with the Chanote  and  ownership papers.

I have a Foreigner  'Pink ' ID card  which is superceding the yellow Tabian book, to no avail some  officer have not even seen the new ? ID card .I have split with my wife  and don't live  anymore  at our house in Chiang Rai Province, the wife moved out as I found out that she sold the house and land  and my 3 cars  as well, the 2 kids  are in Bangkok and  study, I cannot go back as I am  afraid  that I can go to harm alone, now staying with the kids in Bangkok and try to get my non o  extendet or get a new one  from somewhere, my present non O visa from Laos is expiring on July 6th

On ‎4‎/‎10‎/‎2017 at 10:02 PM, Ubonquest said:

Would you share which visa service you used in Vientiane? And did you have to provide the Medical and Police records?

on my first attempt to obtain a  visa  at the  Thai embassy in Vientienne I was shown a slip of  paper  stating that  the Embassy requires  from me  a police report ( Forensic) and  medical examination report from a good Hospital ( did mine at the UEK Ubon cost me  8000 Baht)

unnecessarily as I used on my second attempt the service of  an agent  sitting outside the embassy on a chair  and  handling visa applications for a fee. So I paid the man 6000 baht and got the filled -in form from him and  2000 baht return for the visa  fee  from him, in that case I paid only 4000 baht  for my visa non O valid  for 3  months which is now  slowly expiring as the income letter from my German consulate is  expiring  on May 28 and I must get another one  takes  about 3 weeks or if I show up with the papers   = on the spot, which I might do now  at the German consulate  in Pattaya, BUT my visa  non o- is  expiring on 6th of  July,

On top of all that  some sticky finger got into my  bank-account  and withdrew  30 000 baht and  do not now have the  continuity of the  savings  account for the combined  method (800000) baht  parked in my savings  account,

I have  the  sum required  now again for te  combi 800000  but must wait  again for 2 month and  by then all is lost and  expired, very frustrating situation I am in, I separated from my wife  in December  as  I found out  about her  deceptions

there is  something fundamental wrong to go to  such steps

Any rescue  here  to still use  my non O visa from Laos??

Just now, kraxlhuber said:

No married visa  anywhere  if the wife is not present to sign the papers for the visa, so I was told in Mae Sai and in Vientienne, Have you tried  that or any othe member of TV??

Guess not b' cause it wont work, no wife present- no visa Bingo

 

I went today to and  travel agent here in Bangkok, name withhold)  and asked what I can do to et  anew  non o as  soon as I got my new passport in about19 days, she  said to me , no worries Ill help you BUT its a bit costly and takes up to ten days, no border crossing needed only 29.000 baht to hand over and then some more  2500 baht for  and 30 day extension  in case my present via  is  expiring during the application  process.

My non O visa  for Thailand is still valid for another 40 days and I have to hurry up to get a new  non O, ( retirement visa) also I was told that as of now its difficult to get a multible entrance  visa for  whatever, maye somebody wants us t get out and not come back to LOS for any reason any advise?

19 minutes ago, kraxlhuber said:

Steve, good  advise

this  a sad visa run and I hope not many other  member  suffered  at the hands of Thai officials  when trying to get a visa to stay with his family, but  my wife and I have  separated since December 2016 and she refuses to help me  with a married or any other  visa, if she doesn't help me  how I can support my 2 children  who depend on me?/

  over the last 22 years I  did many extensions  to stay.

What is my situation now,

My financial requirements  application.

Catch 22,  I am now in Bangkok trying to sorting things  out regarding a new  Non O visa  as the one from Laos  is  expiring on 6th of July( amply time  I Guess.

Unfortunately my first application in march 2016 at the Thai embassy  for  a non o visa  was denied, on reason that I must have  a police clearance ( Thailand) and  a new  medical report from a Thai Hospital .

So I went back to Udon Thani and  waited  for 16 days for the police report but was  afraid  my new  application for a non O  will be denied  again for  whatever  reason. I am  German and 72 years old  and live in Thailand for  over 22 years

hence I  paid the agent sitting outside the embassy 6000 baht for  assistance, he  asked me for   the ID card of the wife and the married  certificate,

At the Mae Sai immigration I  was sdenied  a visa extension or  a new visa  as my wife was not with me  at the first application time in February 2016, I was told to leave Thailand  and get   new non  O visa  abroad, so I drove alone for  14 hours  in my car to Nong Kai  ( had in between a blown rear tire and  was almost killed) tried my luck, in Vientienne Laos at the Thai embassy

No married visa  anywhere  if the wife is not present to sign the papers for the visa, so I was told in Mae Sai and in Vientienne, Have you tried  that or any othe member of TV??

Guess not b' cause it wont work, no wife present- no visa Bingo

14 minutes ago, kraxlhuber said:

steve,  but there are  many heads  with nails in them

Steve , bear in mind I live in Chiang Rai, I posted in January in the TV  but got  vage  advises  and I never had to bother with border visa runs, now I got  a hand- ful of them

Just now, kraxlhuber said:

steve,  but there are  many heads  with nails in them

I was aware of the combination method of  800.000 Baht  and  had prepared  the income letter from my embassy ( difficult to get as the official insisted that all documents. must be original, I got the  income letter from the consulate in Chiang Mai !! no questions  asked, had to provide  Bank statements from my bank in Germany and  the  money in my Thai bank for  3 month seasoning.

That was  a  horror trip to get a simple non o visa  which is now getting expired as  my passport has all pages  full of  stamps due the 2 times  border-crossing into Laos and  entering Thailand again.

 On top of all that someone drew  30 000 baht from my bank account  and I don't have the continuity of the bank-deposit anymore  have  since topped up my  bank account ( the next day  after I got the SMS fom my bank about the withdrawal)  and I  don't know  how I get an extension as   I must get a new  non O, possible in Cambodia  as I stay now in Bangkok with my children who study here its  a sad SAGA

On ‎4‎/‎11‎/‎2017 at 7:12 AM, steve187 said:

you need to obtain a proof of income letter, that amount needs to be added to money in a bank account in your name only, this needs to add up  800,000 baht, this money in bank does not need to be there ( seasoned) for any time offically, but some immigration offices with need the money to be seasoned for 3 months, ask at your local immigration office.

 

No nails either with heads or without.

 

you went to the wrong place in Lao, savannakhet would have issued with no problem.

steve,  but there are  many heads  with nails in them

On ‎4‎/‎11‎/‎2017 at 6:31 AM, steve187 said:

so you were at the embassy to obtain a non immigrant 'O' visa based on a Thai wife, so instead of paying 2000 baht to the embassy, you paid an 'agent' sitting in a chair outside 6000 baht for the same thing.

if you had gone to Savannakhet you could of obtained a multi entry non immigrant 'O' visa based on Thai wife for 5,000 baht, this would have been good for 90 days permission to stay stamp on each entry for 1 year,  giving you a possible 15 months to sort out the financials for an extension within Thailand based on 'retirement'.  The extension could have been done in the last 30 days of any entry.

no financials or medical letter required

Steve, good  advise

this  a sad visa run and I hope not many other  member  suffered  at the hands of Thai officials  when trying to get a visa to stay with his family, but  my wife and I have  separated since December 2016 and she refuses to help me  with a married or any other  visa, if she doesn't help me  how I can support my 2 children  who depend on me?/

  over the last 22 years I  did many extensions  to stay.

What is my situation now,

My financial requirements  application.

Catch 22,  I am now in Bangkok trying to sorting things  out regarding a new  Non O visa  as the one from Laos  is  expiring on 6th of July( amply time  I Guess.

Unfortunately my first application in march 2016 at the Thai embassy  for  a non o visa  was denied, on reason that I must have  a police clearance ( Thailand) and  a new  medical report from a Thai Hospital .

So I went back to Udon Thani and  waited  for 16 days for the police report but was  afraid  my new  application for a non O  will be denied  again for  whatever  reason. I am  German and 72 years old  and live in Thailand for  over 22 years

hence I  paid the agent sitting outside the embassy 6000 baht for  assistance, he  asked me for   the ID card of the wife and the married  certificate,

At the Mae Sai immigration I  was sdenied  a visa extension or  a new visa  as my wife was not with me  at the first application time in February 2016, I was told to leave Thailand  and get   new non  O visa  abroad, so I drove alone for  14 hours  in my car to Nong Kai  ( had in between a blown rear tire and  was almost killed) tried my luck, in Vientienne Laos at the Thai embassy

can any of the  estimated  reader/ member  recommend  a good city/ country where I can apply for  a new  non immigrant O  visa.

I am holding now  a non immigrant O visa from the thai embassy in Vientienne in Laos PR.

My letter of income is expiring on 28  of May,  I will get  anew one in 2 weeks time from my Consulate in Chiang Mai, I am  a geman national  72 years old and live  for 22 years in Thailand  and I am married with  a  Thai lady , ( but we have  separated  since  December 2016a nd have 2 grown up children the daughter is  in her 3rd year studying in Bangkok on the Rangsit University,

The sun is also in Bangkok and will be soon admissed for study  at another university in Bangkok.

 The 2 children  are depending on her father, me, for  financial and moral support to live  and  study.

..

35 minutes ago, steve187 said:

so you were at the embassy to obtain a non immigrant 'O' visa based on a Thai wife, so instead of paying 2000 baht to the embassy, you paid an 'agent' sitting in a chair outside 6000 baht for the same thing.

if you had gone to Savannakhet you could of obtained a multi entry non immigrant 'O' visa based on Thai wife for 5,000 baht, this would have been good for 90 days permission to stay stamp on each entry for 1 year,  giving you a possible 15 months to sort out the financials for an extension within Thailand based on 'retirement'.  The extension could have been done in the last 30 days of any entry.

no financials or medical letter required

good post making nails  with heads,  I was denied  a marriage visa   at the  embassy in laos because the wife was not with me, 

now the aGENT  sitting outside  worked  wonders , me, only showing the  married  certificate  and a copy of it and  the wifes ID card  and pictures of me  and  6000 baht fee got me the  non O  immigrant visa, a good for  90 days  and I have to  ?? extend the visa  or convert it into another  catagorie, married of  retirement and I start now from square one,  must keep the money in the abnk for how long 2 month or  3 month  and how much do I have to show?,  have  a letter of income from my embassy  proofing that I have  a  pension at my home  country and  withdraw  money here in Thailand with my ATM card  and  the  combined differency of money is in  a thai bank

The Thai immigration  says in their website  that the  Non O visa  valid for will be  converted at the  immigration office   nearest my home, that I did  already for some years, always having in my savings  account  more tan 800.000 baht for 3 months, for some reasons  I did not have the money of 800 000 baht anymore ( combined method)and was told to go to Vientienne to obtain  a Non immigrant O visa return home and get it converted within 90 days

21 hours ago, anfh said:

I just did mine in Chonburi.

 

Since you are married to a Thai, you only need proof of 400,000bht in bank ( or equivalent income) not 800,000bht.

 

Apart from letter from bank ( in my case) I had to show bank book showing transactions etc to prove I was using the account etc.

 

also, need proof of address in Thailand . I have my own condo, so have Chanoot and Yellow book, but still had to have a letter from the condo office to say that I actually live in my own condo !!!

 

All Immigration offices have there own requirements I think, so check with them.

why  have  some  immigration offices their own requirement one shoe fits  all I guess

I have also the new  ID card  for  foreigners  as the yellow Tabian baan book is  obsolete also the  Thai  for  foreigners  health card is  useless

16 hours ago, anfh said:

 

Why be so pedantic ?? Does it really matter ? Everyone on her understands exactly what he meant !!!

I have  acquired  a  non O immigrant Visa in the  Thai Embassy in Vientienne

I drove my car from Chiang Rai to Nong Kai  and  had  2 almost fatal  accidents on the way, No, I was a blown tyre and the second was  a rock on the roar which I hit at night, I almost can do with some guesswork of  members this   is  a forum  and giving good advises not criticise members , I did more visas  and extension in the last 40 years  here in Thailand  thanks no thanks , some members better be MUM if they are not sure  of their  advises

8 hours ago, Ubonquest said:

Would you share which visa service you used in Vientiane? And did you have to provide the Medical and Police records?

The  guy  with his fly by night outfit,  a table  and a chair  outside the Thai Embassy in Vientienne said to me  all the  requests of the Embassy official are  Hogwash, no police  clearance or medical or  Resume   are needed  for a  retirement or marriage  visa  but on my  previous  attempt   in march 4, 2017 a embassy employee handed to me  a  small  piece of paper  stating the  foresaid  requirements,  I understand  if one s  applied  for a edu or  work visa , yes thats  justified  but for  an  retiree to ask for an police clearance and  a hospital check up report and  a CV/Resume" that beats it all

Immigration officials  act like they are god,  having them build palaces  just to stamp some passports and visas, just tell all of  the expats to go home and leave the Thais alone with their misery

15 hours ago, anfh said:

Yes, I know what he said, I was merely adding advice etc . He may actually not know he can just get a marriage extension . 

Hah, the old  bag  has run away with an younger guy after she sold  all our property inclusive my car  a Pajero Mitsubishi ( which means in the Portuguese language ( <deleted>) and  cleared my bankaccount and  did not left enough dough for  me to get  an visa extension based on retirement

7 hours ago, Ubonquest said:

Would you share which visa service you used in Vientiane? And did you have to provide the Medical and Police records?

 a fly by night  one man outfit ouside the Thai embassy aving one table and a chair and wants 6000 baht for his  service,  all he wanted  was  copies of my passport, my Tabian baan  ID card of my wife, a police clearance record (forensic) and no medical report  which all I have recently aqcuired as the embassy  employee  wanted to see the reports on my previous  application 3 weeks  earlier.

Its true, that when you apply  for a visa  in a 3rd country  you must show the  (recent) medical report from a hospital and the  police  clearance report  also the employee wanted me to write  a Resume and have it all certified  by the Ministry of consular affairs in Bangkok

I am pretty much fed up with all the  requirements just to get a  visa. I live in Thailand ,come and go as I worked the oilfield  around the world and spend my days-off in Thailand .

21 minutes ago, kraxlhuber said:

Mae Sai

I tried to get an extension for my previous  retirement visa  but it was denied  because  th  800 000 baht  ( combined) was not enough ( error of bank as they did not  see the  last  entrance in my bankbook as  I misplaced it) and not 3 months in the bank

to update to the last  entrance of  a savings account you must  pay  say 500 baht and then that amount  updates the book or else  it will always show the  last line

 I could not use  the married (visa) option as my wife  has left the house and is not willing to go with me to the immigration in Mae Sai  anymore

Now I  can do again a retirement visa  optional, and can extend the visa as well and  get an extension after  about  less than 90 days

do I have to have  800 000baht in the bank for  3 months?/BRGDS

johann

 

 

BTW I lost the last bankbook but have copied previously all pages but  hhr  immigration officer in Mae sai did not accept the  Xeroxed  pages  of my last bank book and I am trying now to get from K bank  a replacement book or get the  Xeroxed  pages ( of the  bankbook) certified by the bank

I have since a new  bank passbook but the immigration  wants to see the original book.

Nit-pickers par excellence they are

Now I need  my money from my bank to live but have to season it again for 3 months ( or less) if I appy for an retirement visa ( combination of  income and saving and I  have to request  again from the  embassy  a letter  stating my income  from abroad

On ‎4‎/‎10‎/‎2017 at 4:10 AM, wayned said:

Depending on the office that you use for your extension you can apply 30 days before the expiration of your permission to stay, some offices allow 45.

 

At the time that you apply, the letter from the embassy can not be older than 6 months.  If you are using the combination method, income + bank deposit, most offices do not require the money in the bank to be seasoned.  But, there are a couple that do and since it is the first extension on your current visa I really don't know if it is 60 or 90 days.  I don't know whether they would look back and count your previous extensions.

 

Hind sight is 20/20, but you should have gone to immigration in Thailand and applied for a 60 day extension because you are married to a Thai rather than get a new Non "O", maybe you did.

 

What office do you use?

Mae Sai

I tried to get an extension for my previous  retirement visa  but it was denied  because  th  800 000 baht  ( combined) was not enough ( error of bank as they did not  see the  last  entrance in my bankbook as  I misplaced it) and not 3 months in the bank

to update to the last  entrance of  a savings account you must  pay  say 500 baht and then that amount  updates the book or else  it will always show the  last line

 I could not use  the married (visa) option as my wife  has left the house and is not willing to go with me to the immigration in Mae Sai  anymore

Now I  can do again a retirement visa  optional, and can extend the visa as well and  get an extension after  about  less than 90 days

do I have to have  800 000baht in the bank for  3 months?/BRGDS

johann

Just now, kraxlhuber said:

nitpicking eh? have you got a better advise yet?

the car is 3 years old  and  has only 40 000 klix on the odometer and the interior fabric, seats etc was  replenished as the rats got  at it

never park your car with a  rain/ sun cover on it and have   a  shop  make  asteel coaming around the car to prevent entry of vermins

NGERN TIT LOR, money stuck to the  wheels  are loansharks and money launderer but its legal in Thailand to ask for a financing of  a car loan  of 18 % interest and when the loan ( financing payout ) is made they transfer the car in their name  without  the real owner is  asked and get even  a new  registration book in their name with a false power of attorney and a faked  as it happened to me signature, Thailand - Fake land

go the police  and they say  go to court and  sue them but that costs  real money and  taked time by then the  finance company has  sold your car  already to  somebody unknown to you

On ‎12‎/‎16‎/‎2016 at 0:09 PM, SchadeBoy said:

And in 30 years you have never built up a credit history thereby negating the need for a Thai guarantor ? The ID card and Tabian have absolutely no bearing on what your trying to do and the vehicle is not new....its 3 years old 

nitpicking eh? have you got a better advise yet?

On ‎11‎/‎27‎/‎2016 at 11:39 AM, MikeyIdea said:

Should be no problem at all if the car really is in your name = no loans. Just bring the book and go to "money stuck to the wheels" they will be happy to rip you off by giving you money, after they have transferred the car to their company name. Interests are at max of what is legally allowed of course and fixed costs are not low as they don't want people who just borrow little

 

Borrow money to buy a car: No problems at all if you have history. I was offered loans at both Toyota and Ford without Thai guarantee within the same day.

 

Anthony: Does that count for one hundred or two hundred baht? :)   Several consecutive work permits and decent salary is what is needed, emphasis on the several rather than good salary

 

Mikey

 

Yeah Ngern Tit Lor as the Thais  say, crooks, loan sharks and criminals are they, my wife had my car transferred to her name  after she reported the registration book lost to the police ( the book was locked up in my safe all the time0 until she had to pay tax  and  LOSTthe book and had  anew boom issued in her name  and  flocked the car, now she gave me back  a fake booklet  and the  registration office  says its a fake, how can you a fake  car registration book, beats me  must have some help from the  motor vehicles  office, the entrances of tax payment at the back of the registration booklet are  handwritten and the dates  of payment  topsy turfy all crockery in Thailand, I never knew about the  pages  for  paying taxes

now I get my own car reposessed by the loan shark= financing company Ngern Tit Lor money sticks to the wheel

I told them and my wife to BUGGER off

 I have now a lawyer  to find proof of the forgery( he  ask for  60. 000 baht for the job to report to the police tehe  criminal act of  a false  statement ( she has the new  reg, book in her name  as she reported to he police  SHE lost the  old booklet which is a blatent lie  as the original book was locked up in my safe  she gets the maximum penalty, divorce,  a fine  for the crime  and  some years ( suspended)  in jail or a nice stay at a hospital