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Concerns after two foreign women sunbathe in Chiang Mai temple
BigStar replied to webfact's topic in Chiang Mai News
Tedious pseudo-educated failure to foist puritanism onto Thais. It's convenient to pretend it's the same culture and think our cultural standards apply, then use them as an excuse to bash Thais for not following them. What Buddhist text refers to puritanism? Is there "a road to damnation" or is that idea in fact merely derived from the Judeo-Christian tradition. -
Concerns after two foreign women sunbathe in Chiang Mai temple
BigStar replied to webfact's topic in Chiang Mai News
I'll laugh at your posts all I wish, thank you. Looking forward to the next. -
I dunno. Season 2 started slow and I gave up on it too quickly. It has many detractors. A few years later, I gave it another shot and decided it was really pretty good. Characters had some reality and depth (relatively), weren't just grotesques; atmospheric & stylish; good acting and interaction/tension between the characters. Rachel McAdams, ah. I've thought about watching it again.
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Concerns after two foreign women sunbathe in Chiang Mai temple
BigStar replied to webfact's topic in Chiang Mai News
Are you still going to cry on behalf of all farang because some Thais--you don't know how many, as only one went on record (one is enough) and the monk agreed but did nothing--at a Wat found it inappropriate that two women were sunbathing on the temple grounds? If so, I'll continue pointing out your irrelevancy and illogic, for the fun of it. :) -
Concerns after two foreign women sunbathe in Chiang Mai temple
BigStar replied to webfact's topic in Chiang Mai News
Again, the same exaggeration, returning to grossly. Get over this little straw man. Nobody said it was SO offensive. Nor should the request for the girls to stop sunbathing out there be SO offensive to you and the rest of our peanut gallery. The guide's being paid and maybe not much of a Buddhist anyway. But some serious Thai Buddhists do attend the Wats. We may also assume the monk was serious enough. You have it completely backwards. The purpose here is to trigger our Western Karens, such as yourself, with outrage at the idea that Thais might be offended at Western behavior in their own country and Wat and dare find such behavior inappropriate. It worked beautifully. As I noted, the site will probably get ten pages out of this. Hee hee. -
Concerns after two foreign women sunbathe in Chiang Mai temple
BigStar replied to webfact's topic in Chiang Mai News
But you see it could be argued far more cogently that you're the far greater Karen for making such a big issue about the Thais finding the girls' behavior inappropriate. Have we got the Karen issue out of the way now? -
Concerns after two foreign women sunbathe in Chiang Mai temple
BigStar replied to webfact's topic in Chiang Mai News
Thais are accustomed to contrasts without finding them ironic. Ask how many understand puritanism. I think if you research the word, you'll find it has nothing to do with Thailand and very much to do with--wait for it--your very own Blighty. Despite these desperate efforts to trivialize, diminish, and excuse the girls based on your own ethnocentric viewpoint, the Thais at the Wat at this time and place did think their behavior inappropriate. Their judgement counts and it's final. Yours is irrelevant and nobody cares about it except perhaps our peanut gallery here to reinforce their own misguided opinions. -
Concerns after two foreign women sunbathe in Chiang Mai temple
BigStar replied to webfact's topic in Chiang Mai News
Irrelevant whataboutism for the enjoyment of bashing. Then you could set the example by refraining from criticizing the Thais. Hypocritical, of course. It was nonsense then and still is. -
Concerns after two foreign women sunbathe in Chiang Mai temple
BigStar replied to webfact's topic in Chiang Mai News
No, exactly right. It's irrelevant whether YOU or the girls think they were behaving entirely appropriately. The Thais didn't. It's their country, their culture, their Wat, and they decide what's appropriate or not. They didn't see others, especially Thais, out sunbathing on the grounds and never have at any Wat. So they should have figured out it might be a good idea, just as you'd be cautious when accepting hospitality at a stranger's home. They were just thinking about themselves, not the Thais. Surprise! Oh, lighting a joss stick, saying a little prayer, going over to the eating area, or leaving. -
Concerns after two foreign women sunbathe in Chiang Mai temple
BigStar replied to webfact's topic in Chiang Mai News
My posts aren't on the article, but about the nonsense written by other posters. I'll continue as long as they're good for a laugh. -
Concerns after two foreign women sunbathe in Chiang Mai temple
BigStar replied to webfact's topic in Chiang Mai News
We may as well accept your expertise from personal experience. -
Concerns after two foreign women sunbathe in Chiang Mai temple
BigStar replied to webfact's topic in Chiang Mai News
No. -
Concerns after two foreign women sunbathe in Chiang Mai temple
BigStar replied to webfact's topic in Chiang Mai News
I don't know that Thais find it ironic, do you? That idea, as well as "puritanical," appears part of your own unrelenting attempt to foist your own inapplicable ethnocentric viewpoint onto Thais. Not that you're alone, of course, if there's comfort in numbers. -
Concerns after two foreign women sunbathe in Chiang Mai temple
BigStar replied to webfact's topic in Chiang Mai News
If only you were a gargoyle, what privileges you might enjoy. -
Concerns after two foreign women sunbathe in Chiang Mai temple
BigStar replied to webfact's topic in Chiang Mai News
Probably couldn't imagine people are such idiots as to need a sign. Rather, tourists should be tolerant and respectful of local customs. -
Concerns after two foreign women sunbathe in Chiang Mai temple
BigStar replied to webfact's topic in Chiang Mai News
Be assured. :) -
Concerns after two foreign women sunbathe in Chiang Mai temple
BigStar replied to webfact's topic in Chiang Mai News
Looks like bikinis, even a thong in the latest pic. "Anything" and "beserk" are attempts to trivialize by exaggeration. Something, yes. Nor are the locals stupid. Such condemnations invoke the ANF Poster Boomerang Principle, merely applying to the poster himself. This wasn't the street or anywhere but somewhere in particular. Next. -
Concerns after two foreign women sunbathe in Chiang Mai temple
BigStar replied to webfact's topic in Chiang Mai News
The advertisements are the whole point, you see. -
Concerns after two foreign women sunbathe in Chiang Mai temple
BigStar replied to webfact's topic in Chiang Mai News
Nor did anyone say it is. Exaggerating to trivialize won't help. It was sufficiently offensive. Looks like a thong in the latest pic. -
Concerns after two foreign women sunbathe in Chiang Mai temple
BigStar replied to webfact's topic in Chiang Mai News
No, it was a reasonable judgement with which the monk agreed. Residents in the vicinity hold the site in high regard, making sunbathing there culturally inappropriate. The concerned witness brought the matter to the attention of a monk, who assured that the message would be relayed to the tour guide responsible for bringing the foreign women to the temple. The reverse, then: the girls lacked common sense about what conduct might be culturally inappropriate. Not uncommon among tourists. -
Concerns after two foreign women sunbathe in Chiang Mai temple
BigStar replied to webfact's topic in Chiang Mai News
Our members are absolutely loving this! That's why it's reported here. Could go on 10 pages.