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ok so let me just think about this for a minute. These guys have been in custody for maybe 10 days or so. Not once has the prison chief expressed any worries about their safety, that was of course was before they were granted access to lawyers, and had supposedly pleaded guilty. But now after they have seen lawyers and recanted their confessions all of a sudden he is worried they may commit suicide. I would think they are less inclined to commit suicide now than they were 2 days ago.

And his statement should have read " I have instructed other inmates to make sure these two are dead in the next few days"

The RTP will never admit they are wrong too much arrogance and taking care of the hiso for that. But they have now found another patsy, ie the prison chief to take the fall for them, if these 2 die in custody. Can see the headlines now, the day after they are found dead in prison.

TWO BURMESE SUSPECTED OF MURDER FOUND DEAD IN PRISON CELLS. Police chief says " The prison governor did not do enough to protect these prisoners, we were 100% certain they were guilty, but now we don't have the chance to prove to all the doubters all over the world that we got it right.

By the way we will not be at anytime sending our condolensces to the families of the deceased, because we are to busy collecting all the brown envolopes from the scumbags that we have been protecting, and also making sure that tourism is soon booming on koh tao again, so that we don't lose any of our income from bribes that are (LEGALLY) paid to us. No more comments case closed we did a fabulous job solving this crime.

wow where are the rtp apologists today, clutchclark, sicophanticsteve, police chiefjtj, stutteringparrot, please come on here and tell us how this is usual procedure.

I think jlcrab lives in isaan, you can catch him trolling on the tv isaan forum a lot. The rtp have the problem that in the past they have never really been known for their honesty and integrity, and this is now really biting them in the arse. How could they think that a case that has so many inconsistencies could be wrapped up so quickly.What they didn't expect was the prosecutors would send this case back to them, with the demand to find more solid evidence, we know that because of the chief of police statement " we are sure we have the real culprits, no more investigating needed, case closed".

I know i may be repeating myself, buts lets look at the more glaring errors in the police evidence.

1 the two culprits were dna tested on the first day, they were pictured among the 300 burmese workers tested. The police stated as saying there were no dna matches in those 300 people.

2 They were supposed to have said they hit david with the blunt side of the hoe, his wounds say different, he was obviously killed by a knife, his wounds were completely different to Hannah's.

3. They supposedly told police that they killed them because they saw david and hannah having sex on the beach and were jealous, and even the police said there is no evidence that david and hannah had sex, the next day the police changed that staement to read, They admitted killing them because they saw david and hannah kissing on the beach, and yet no dna from david was found on hannah and visa verca.

4 Police stated that davids dna was not found on the hoe.so that makes the burmese guys statement totally false, one wonders why the police accepted their confessions.

5 If we are to believe police statements regarding mobile phones it would seem that david had 3 phones.They originally said that davids phone was found at the murder scene bloodstained and with a blonde hair stuck to it, but this was a phone he must have bought in thailand, because the i phone he brought with him was blocked in thailand. They also stated that the i phone was found in davids luggage. So where did the phone the police claimed belonged to david that was found behind the burmese guys room come from. Surely if the phone found behind their room was touched by them, it would contain not only their fingerprints but davids also, but they have not given any evidence to prove yeah or nay.

6 Why have the police not given an explanation as to why the mafia godfather and his family were not dna tested, and i don't buy this abusing their human rights thing, because i am pretty sure in a case as serious as this they could be ordered by a judge to give dna.

7 What happened to the 2 minutes of footage removed from the cctv film.

8 On television 3 days ago a police pathologist said that there was a 3rd persons dna found on hannahs body, it was not davids or any of the 300 burmese tested, so why are the police not searching for a 3rd person and still insisting the 2 burmese guys were the only ones involved.

9 The police's star witness has now recanted his statement accusing his friends of being involved, a statement he says he gave due to threats made by the police. So who will they now produce in court.

I think that is enough for now. It will be interesting to see what the good general tells his myanmar counterparts today, and will the general make false statements saying the burmese goverment are happy with the thai handling of the case, as did the police yesterday, only to be shot down in flames by the burmese officials.

The sad thing about this is that i am sure that everyone on thai visa, be it we so called theory conspirators, or our opposition who i amongst others have labelled

thai police arse lickers, only want the truth to come out and whoever commited this horrendous crime to be caught. If these burmese guys are proven to be innocent, i fear we will never know who did it, because money talks, and i am sure many brown envolopes have changed hands.

Clutchclark, so tell me who were they supposed to recant their statements to before, if the thai police neither asked them if they wanted lawyers nor offered the lawyers. you really should think before you keep rushing in to defend your RTP glory boys.

statement by the police chief a few days ago " we are sure we have got the right culprits no need to investigate further case closed" oops. another thought why are the police not trying to find the third person who's dna was found on hannahs body, could it be they already know who he is, but have already recieved the brown envelope not to disclose his name.

jtj, on this and every other thread relating to this crime you have repeatedly derided all us so called conspiracy theorists as spouting nonsense. But when asked questions by many people you continually refuse to answer them, just repeating your usual diatribe against anyone who doesn't agree with your views. So here and now I challenge you to answer a few of the anomalies in the police statements, you have a large audience just hanging on your every word, so here is your chance to convince all of the sceptics, just answer the following questions.

1 these two burmese guys were among the first 300 who had their DNA tested, and the police made a statement that no matches were found among those 300, so how did they suddenly get a match when they tested them a second time?

2 the police said that the phone david bought in thailand was found on the beach, bloodstained and with a blond hair stuck to, they also said that the phone that he brought from england that was blocked in thailand was found in his luggage, so how did that phone get found behind the burmese guys room? or are we now to believe he had three phones.

3 The police have not said if this other phone had been tested for fingerprints or DNA, nor have they said if it contained the burmese guys fingerprints, why not?.

4 The police stated on friday, that the burmese guys had confessed to the killings because " We saw them having SEX on the beach and we were jealous" But on saturday the police changed that statement to say " We saw them KISSING on the beach and we got jealous, so which was it.

5 None of Davids DNA was found on Hannahs body or vica verca, which proves they were not having sex or kissing, so why would the police accept a confession that obviously was not true. And by the way the police did state that david and hannah did not have sex.

6 The mafia chief offered 1 million baht reward to the police ( not the public) if they could prove that his son was involved in the killings. Yet his son says he was in Bangkok at the time of the killings, are you trying to tell me that he would not know if his son was in Bangkok or on the Island, and if he did know he was in Bangkok why offer the reward.

7 Why was the cctv evidence tampered with to remove 2 minutes of the tape?.

8 If the mafia chief was so convinced his familly were not involved why not just give DNA samples and have done with it.

I will leave it at that for now, because i know you made need a some time to converse with the RTP, so that you can come up with some pretty amazing answers. My bet is that you won't answer any questions, and you may even ask your buddies to come and arrest me for doubting their unblemished record of being honest over the years. If you want me to make it easy for them to find me just PM me, I am in Thailand.