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Thank you Maestro and ubonjoe!

It seems like opinion is divided on whether this is a good idea or not. I can see good arguments on both sides. Shame there is not a more definitive conclusion.

Ubonjoe, you're saying that regardless of what visa you are on, you can extend it with your childs birth certificate by 60 days? It does not need to be a dependant visa?

Can you do this indefinitely or just once?

If I go to any bangkok foodcourt at 12 midday I will expect to see 30-50% of the tables occupied by items such as:

umbrellas

iphones

tablets

bags

ID necklace badges

Pads of paper

etc

One of them will also have my umbrella. If someone took my table I would tell them to please move and if they did not I would accidentally spill my soup on them. I actually live in hope of being able to do this. 45 baht very well spent in a lesson in manners.

you do that you won't just take on the little old thai fella you do it to, you will take on the whole food hall, best of luck to ya..

You wouldn't get an old Thai fella doing it, it would be some whitey. But I'd have no problem admonishing a local either. Have done it many times in many situations (7/11 queues, anyone?), and been told off a few times myself too. "We're not animals, we live in a society." - Jim Jeffries.

If I go to any bangkok foodcourt at 12 midday I will expect to see 30-50% of the tables occupied by items such as:

umbrellas

iphones

tablets

bags

ID necklace badges

Pads of paper

etc

One of them will also have my umbrella. If someone took my table I would tell them to please move and if they did not I would accidentally spill my soup on them. I actually live in hope of being able to do this. 45 baht very well spent in a lesson in manners.

People leaving their 20,000 Baht iPhone unattended to 'reserve' a table while they go browse food stalls and then stand in line for a 40 baht plate of noodles? Yeah ok dude

Agreed. Most leave Gold Bullion, 500kg blocks. They are difficult to carry away and the more you possess the bigger your face gets.

Yes, iPhones. See them every day, dude.

Do you know if it is possible to change a dependent/child visa to a marriage visa easily or must one apply afresh from outside?

If I go to any bangkok foodcourt at 12 midday I will expect to see 30-50% of the tables occupied by items such as:

umbrellas

iphones

tablets

bags

ID necklace badges

Pads of paper

etc

One of them will also have my umbrella. If someone took my table I would tell them to please move and if they did not I would accidentally spill my soup on them. I actually live in hope of being able to do this. 45 baht very well spent in a lesson in manners.

Sitting, with clothes on, on end of the bed. Nothing new about this, and if you understood anything about Thailand you would understand why such a photo held meaning.

Enforcement like with all rules is hit and miss, sometimes they will visit you and if you are not both there, will often wait for one partner to return home.

Thanks Paz, but I am unclear. Are you saying the visa expires, as in, cannot be extended indefinitely? As like the ED which now expires after 1 year regardless?

Thanks for the fork

Its worth noting that in some cases paperwork has been more than 2 months late for new ED visa schedule approvals. It all seems to depend on where you study and when your papers were submitted to the MOE during this tumultuous time,. I would recommend getting the maximum possible tourist visa you can to allow for potential delays.

Usually this tactic works well in my personal experience. However, there are days when many people do the same thing. As long as you get a ticket number before they close, they will serve you the same day.

I am not an expert but I believe they will give you a tourist visa since you have been on an ED visa for one year. The only reason not to give tourist is if you have been on too many of these already.

Insofar as breaking up your visa with a tourist in between two ED visas, I have not read or heard anything to suggest this will be a problem. You should be able to apply for your second ED visa having been on a tourist visa in between.

Thanks. So it seems no need for financial proof/bank statements, just house book of the child and birth certificate for single entry visa (I am not sure what the benefit of multiple entry is if you are not planning to leave Thailand..).

Thanks ubonjoe.

Is it enough to only have the birth certificate?

I notice that Vientiane says:

For the purpose of accompanying spouse/family members, documents required are;
1. Copy of marriage certificate
2. Certified Copy of spouse’s ID card (in Thai)
3. Copy of house registration book (in Thailand)
4. Copy of bank statement (in Thailand)
5. Other relevant document, for example, copy of child’s birth certificate / ID card

And London says:

Non-Immigrant Type O

• Birth Certificate (applicant's child)
• Certificate of Marriage or its equivalents (if married to Thai national)
• a copy of marriage certificate and passport or Thai ID of spouse and (3 months bank statement showing monthly income of more than £1,400 anuually.)
• An official recommendation letter from organization perform voluntary job in Thailand (for volunteer job)
• Pension statement if the applicant is a pension earner.

Is this: http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/535091-new-visa-rules-for-fathers-of-thai-children/page-18

Still the status quo?

Specifically, if unmarried, and non-legitimised as the Father, but named on the birth certificate- will one be issued a visa if one can produce house book+certificate? Is the house book only necessary for the extension rather than the actual visa to begin with?

If a visa would not be granted in this case, and if marriage is not an option and the child in question is too young for the amphur method (stating who the father is), does anyone have a resource/recommendation vis a vis petition the court for legitimisation (mother consents) and know how much this might cost, how long it might take and what is involved?

Is there any other relevant option in such a situation visa-wise for the Father?

Thanks in advance

Ill be outside of Thailand for the second half of october, but otherwise Im available most nights. Thursdays are fine for me, as is soi 8.

Can you get senior Thai males in their environment on side? If they see you accepted by their seniors this will help.

I'm interested

Note I said "If". I am not saying that everyone who leaves Thailand has failed in some way. But if you have, and that is why you're leaving, I don't want to hear about it. As pointed out by some astute posters, I actually have a choice over which threads I read. I had forgotten this- silly me. In all seriousness I am being somewhat serious. But seriously, I'm just kidding.

Please note I am English and everything I say is quite possibly just an (unfunny) joke.

By the way, I am honoured to have been chosen as forum representative and will take the responsibilities with their full weight as I lead us forward to a brighter, better, TV future. If you are unsure of how to think about any topic, please do not hesitate to ask me for the latest community policy on the price of fried rice, whether or not the term "falang" is offensive, how much one requires to get by on per month, and any number of other burning issues.

Carry on.

You need to understand that you are part of this community (voluntarily) and this community sees nothing wrong with waking up at 5:30am. Some may argue its even a little late.

If you want to sleep til 9 you need to pick a different community or just put up with being woken up.

I am making no normative judgments here about what is right or wrong, just pointing out fact. You won't change it and really shouldnt try.

The Four Phases[edit]

Honeymoon phase[edit]

During this period, the differences between the old and new culture are seen in a romantic light. For example, in moving to a new country, an individual might love the new food, the pace of life, and the locals' habits. During the first few weeks, most people are fascinated by the new culture. They associate with nationals who speak their language, and who are polite to the foreigners. Like most honeymoon periods, this stage eventually ends.[4]

Negotiation phase[edit]

After some time (usually around three months, depending on the individual), differences between the old and new culture become apparent and may create anxiety. Excitement may eventually give way to unpleasant feelings of frustration and anger as one continues to experience unfavorable events that may be perceived as strange and offensive to one's cultural attitude. Language barriers, stark differences in public hygiene, traffic safety, food accessibility and quality may heighten the sense of disconnection from the surroundings.[5]

While being transferred into a different environment puts special pressure on communication skills, there are practical difficulties to overcome, such as circadian rhythm disruption that often leads to insomnia and daylight drowsiness; adaptation of gut flora to different bacteria levels and concentrations in food and water; difficulty in seeking treatment for illness, as medicines may have different names from the native country's and the same active ingredients might be hard to recognize.

Still, the most important change in the period is communication: People adjusting to a new culture often feel lonely and homesick because they are not yet used to the new environment and meet people with whom they are not familiar every day. The language barrier may become a major obstacle in creating new relationships: special attention must be paid to one's and others' culture-specific body language signs, linguistic faux pas, conversation tone, linguistic nuances and customs, and false friends.

In the case of students studying abroad, some develop additional symptoms of loneliness that ultimately affect their lifestyles as a whole. Due to the strain of living in a different country without parental support, international students often feel anxious and feel more pressure while adjusting to new cultures—even more so when the cultural distances are wide, as patterns of logic and speech are different and a special emphasis is put on rhetoric.

Adjustment phase[edit]

Again, after some time (usually 6 to 12 months), one grows accustomed to the new culture and develops routines. One knows what to expect in most situations and the host country no longer feels all that new. One becomes concerned with basic living again, and things become more "normal". One starts to develop problem-solving skills for dealing with the culture and begins to accept the culture's ways with a positive attitude. The culture begins to make sense, and negative reactions and responses to the culture are reduced.[citation needed]

Outcomes[edit]

There are three basic outcomes of the Adjustment Phase:[citation needed]

Some people find it impossible to accept the foreign culture and to integrate. They isolate themselves from the host country's environment, which they come to perceive as hostile, withdraw into a "ghetto" and see return to their own culture as the only way out. These "Rejectors" also have the greatest problems re-integrating back home after return.

Some people integrate fully and take on all parts of the host culture while losing their original identity. This is called cultural assimilation. They normally remain in the host country forever. This group is sometimes known as "Adopters" and describes approximately 10% of expats.

Some people manage to adapt to the aspects of the host culture they see as positive, while keeping some of their own and creating their unique blend. They have no major problems returning home or relocating elsewhere. This group can be thought to be somewhat cosmopolitan. Approximately 30% of expats belong to this group.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture_shock

At no point during the video does she show her breasts.

Who would like to drop earthpig in the middle of mardi gras, with no map, telephone or clothes?