Australian Arrested at Bangkok Airport Over Pattaya Murder

13 minutes ago, IsmeUno said:

It has been published many times that it was her 19 year old male friend, as he was with her at the beach at the time of pickup and likely the one who filmed them walking away. He may have called her parents to assist in filing a report, but he was the one 'on the ground' so to speak.

You sure it was a he? I'm surprised if it was, they don't usually have men nearby

2 minutes ago, JimmyTobacco said:

That doesn't really have any relation to what I said, but I can understand and agree that the death penalty would be fit here.

You would be right, ID checks are hotels not condos so much.

9 minutes ago, Rockyroad said:

He's a Brit. Not an Aussie. He might have done it before.

An Aussie for the love of god ,born Ballarat, shown on his passport

1 hour ago, JerryM said:

From page 13 this topic:

It seems many, if not most, hotels and condos in Pattaya have a written policy that Thai late night visitors leave an ID. This is I'll guess largely seen as a nuisance and security just waves them through no ID provided.

But that can be a legitimate legal matter if the Thai person ends up dead.

Security did not wave them through on that occasion. The service was there if the occupant wanted it. He could have approached the security desk and the ID would have been logged. You could see the security guard take note of their entry, deciding to not disturb them. It was the perpetrator's choice to not register her at the desk.

1 minute ago, scubascuba3 said:

An Aussie for the love of god ,born Ballarat, shown on his passport

You got a copy of it?

3 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

You sure it was a he? I'm surprised if it was, they don't usually have men nearby

It was definitely a he, as reported via multiple domestic outlets. They sometimes have men nearby. Sometimes even dropping them off. Those calls often come from their friends and boyfriends. They don't want them to stay there beyond a quick service.

3 minutes ago, JimmyTobacco said:

There's no doubt. But I think it was a Thai person who posted it. Might have been a photo someone took of his passport somewhere at a hotel. There's not much privacy in Thailand when something like this happens. He was pretty stupid thinking he could get away with it.

Good police work. Locked up then death. Good riddance!

16 minutes ago, JimmyTobacco said:

The guy was renting a private condo since several years probably. I've personally never been to a condo like that where they would check your ID, especially if you come in with a resident. Usually, there is some fingerprint recognition or code for the elevator to go up to the actual apartments.

I haven't ever stayed in one of those thousand room impersonal places, so cannot speak for everywhere. But even when I stayed in the centre of Pattaya, no floosie would get past security, day or night.

17 minutes ago, IsmeUno said:

You could see the security guard take note of their entry, deciding to not disturb them. It was the perpetrator's choice to not register her at the desk.

Under the Thailand Condominium Act, the Juristic Manager or Committee is explicitly required to maintain building safety and peace. While house rules (e.g., security, guest policies) do not need government publication, they must be officially registered as part of the building’s Bylaws (Section 32). https://gam-legalalliance.com/

9 minutes ago, IsmeUno said:

I haven't ever stayed in one of those thousand room impersonal places, so cannot speak for everywhere. But even when I stayed in the centre of Pattaya, no floosie would get past security, day or night.

I guess Pattaya might have different rules because it's not as safe as some other places. In Bangkok or Chiang Mai I've never been asked for idea when entering a condo building.

3 minutes ago, JimmyTobacco said:

I guess Pattaya might have different rules because it's not as safe as some other places. In Bangkok or Chiang Mai I've never been asked for idea when entering a condo building.

You aren't asked Obvious working girls are requested. But in huge condos, you can see that might be an issue. Rather than inconveniencing their residents, they have the option of approaching the desk. No doubt the security guard would have logged and held on to the ID if requested. The perpetrator in this case did not desire that service.

3 minutes ago, IsmeUno said:

You aren't asked Obvious working girls are requested. But in huge condos, you can see that might be an issue. Rather than inconveniencing their residents, they have the option of approaching the desk. No doubt the security guard would have logged and held on to the ID if requested. The perpetrator in this case did not desire that service.

I'm sure he picked a condo where he could bring anyone in without an ID being asked. I highly doubt this was his first time bringing a (young) girl over. And I also think it's unlikely for staff to indeed inconvenience their well-known residents to ask their guests to show ID

4 minutes ago, JimmyTobacco said:

I'm sure he picked a condo where he could bring anyone in without an ID being asked. I highly doubt this was his first time bringing a (young) girl over. And I also think it's unlikely for staff to indeed inconvenience their well-known residents to ask their guests to show ID

In this case the security guard was not sleeping, but alert to their entry and even appeared to check the time of entry.

12 minutes ago, IsmeUno said:

In this case the security guard was not sleeping, but alert to their entry and even appeared to check the time of entry.

I wrote this page 3:

If the security personnel explicitly bypassed guest verification protocols, ignored strict visitor policies, or let a non-resident in without the resident's authorization, it represents a direct breach of their duty.

3 minutes ago, JerryM said:

I wrote this page 3:

If the security personnel explicitly bypassed guest verification protocols, ignored strict visitor policies, or let a non-resident in without the resident's authorization, it represents a direct breach of their duty.

So? We don't live in Nazi Germany. In Thailand, they have Greng jai. The service is there for your protection. Either one of them could have walked to the desk if they felt unsafe.

4 minutes ago, IsmeUno said:

So? We don't live in Nazi Germany. In Thailand, they have Greng jai. The service is there for your protection. Either one of them could have walked to the desk if they felt unsafe.

A death is involved. Either they adhered to the actual security protocols, if there were any, or they didn't.

38 minutes ago, JimmyTobacco said:

I'm sure he picked a condo where he could bring anyone in without an ID being asked. I highly doubt this was his first time bringing a (young) girl over. And I also think it's unlikely for staff to indeed inconvenience their well-known residents to ask their guests to show ID

The system isn't good in condos anyway, they don't photograph the ID and they don't check with the resident everything is ok before the girl picks up the ID and goes

3 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

The system isn't good in condos anyway, they don't photograph the ID and they don't check with the resident everything is ok before the girl picks up the ID and goes

Where were her parents? 17yo ffs

5 minutes ago, Rockyroad said:

Where were her parents? 17yo ffs

C'mon Rocky you profess to be a Thai expert, language and all and you come up with this? Have you seen this?

8 minutes ago, Rockyroad said:

Where were her parents? 17yo ffs

Back up country spending the money she was earning.

14 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

Back up country spending the money she was earning.

Sad story if they knew about it.

12 minutes ago, Rockyroad said:

Sad story if they knew about it.

You don't seem to understand how it works here

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5 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

Loads of woke aussie women and men in Australia blaming men in Thailand

You guys discuss it here? 17 year old with a 45 year old truck driver ?

And Are they wrong?

As a man myself, I have seen many disgraceful Western men in Thailand with low morals and low standards, who are to blaim for their behaviour, no secret there

3 hours ago, Rockyroad said:

He's a Brit. Not an Aussie. He might have done it before.

That's wide open to dispute, as there is far more compelling evidence stating he is an Aussie.

It's irrelevant, he was raised in Australia, he worked in Australia, his pensions are in Aussie. His whole life has been in Australia and when he tried to do a runner, it was to Australia.

If it walks like a duck................................................. end of!

21 minutes ago, Hummin said:

You guys discuss it here? 17 year old with a 45 year old truck driver ?

And Are they wrong?

As a man myself, I have seen many disgraceful Western men in Thailand with low morals and low standards, who are to blaim for their behaviour, no secret there

Thailanguage courses

There are plenty of despicable men the world over, it's not unique to Thailand.

2 hours ago, Rockyroad said:

Where were her parents? 17yo ffs

When I first came to Thailand, the kids were in Pattaya alone at 12/13 years old from upcountry.

3 hours ago, JerryM said:

Under the Thailand Condominium Act, the Juristic Manager or Committee is explicitly required to maintain building safety and peace. While house rules (e.g., security, guest policies) do not need government publication, they must be officially registered as part of the building’s Bylaws (Section 32). https://gam-legalalliance.com/

We can all find rules and regulations.

Would you like a list of those not followed in Thailand?

Nearly all of them.

3 minutes ago, Scouse123 said:

There are plenty of despicable men the world over, it's not unique to Thailand.

You are right, but Thailand seems to attract more of them.

8 hours ago, Ralf001 said:

So he is born and bred aussie.. I thought he was part pommy ?

Here we go again!