British Man Assaults Municipal Officers in Chiang Mai

6 hours ago, NedR69 said:

That’s stupid to think that. Not all Brit are like that.

6 hours ago, NedR69 said:

That’s stupid to think that. Not all Brit are like that.

6 hours ago, NedR69 said:

That’s stupid to think that. Not all Brit are like that.

TopThai1964 disagrees with you and believes that all Brits are like that. Bit concerning that such a bigoted person is walking around with this view. Having never met me he thinks that I am inclined to attack people. Totally irrational.

Truth is that Thailand isn't that much different than most other places in the way that there are many good Thais and foreigners, but also a lot of morons and criminals for both too... trouble is, the bad news travels way faster than the good news and there's no click value on the positive stuff in general media, just negative things Thais and foreigners can get indignant about and spout off in a self-righteousness way about. Many good deeds go unnoticed or even punished here and everywhere.

3 hours ago, OldHand2541 said:

I personally know many Brits, who have excellent manners, polite,

Me too.....I don't want to know Brits with bad manners and being impolite.

Though it seems to be the minority.

5 hours ago, Keeps said:

Clearly the guy was completely out of order so no defending him. Deserves whatever is coming his way.

However, I do not feel it unreasonable to assume that the guy has spent some time here as there is mention of him being involved in similar confrontations on several occasions in the past, this being the most serious incident. I can therefore not unreasonably assume that he is here on some type of visa. If he entered visa exempt I would not unreasonably assume that some action to remove him would have been taken by now.

How would your call for cessation of visa exempt entry for Brits have made any difference in this instance if indeed my assumptions are correct?

Are you sure you wasn't just trying to 'poke the bear'?

Seems you're the champion in making assumptions. Go on fantazising, a good friend of mine said.

40 minutes ago, D Peter said:

Seems you're the champion in making assumptions. Go on fantazising, a good friend of mine said.

Explain yourself. Am I not allowed to make assumptions? The second sentence of your post makes no sense whatsoever.

I'm intrigued as to how you will respond.

1 hour ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Yep, here's one of them below 😂

Nah, my best friends in Thailand are foreigners.

I only stick the boot into the disrespectful, nasty foreigners.

It's been my way go for decades.

Sure you do.

Pull the other one, it has Chang's on it.

6 hours ago, Dcheech said:

Standard Procedure in CM for a Brit experiencing mental health issues, plus violent & abusive is Deportation to Pattaya. However as he repeatedly attacked the BIB, stronger measures may apply.


He drove, without a helmet right into the Thapae checkpoint. Then got ugly.

From above photo, he looks like one of those big bike freaks with no crash helmet (as previously pointed out) wearing a T-shirt and baseball cap!

DTV Muay Thai visa in combination with gear made for a perfect disaster.

Hardly correct if you break it down, the United Kingdom is 4 country's, France is only one, also if you took away the Mohameds and Mustafa etc, even less.

But an idiot is an idiot where ever he comes from.

9 hours ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Yep, I've been getting nasty comments from some here for years when I speak negatively regarding foreigners.

It's obvious we have a few anti Thai people, nasty Thai bashers. I'm sure these few have been in trouble in the past.

It's not because you speak negatively about these incidents. It's because you only seem interested in them when a foreigner is the one in the wrong.

When the facts are unclear, you almost invariably fill in the gaps with assumptions that paint the foreigner as the villain. That's the bias people are reacting to.

The pattern is fairly obvious:

- Thai assaults Thai? Silence.

- Foreigner assaults Thai? "Terrible foreigner."

- Thai assaults foreigner? "The foreigner must have done something to deserve it."

That's why you frequently receive push-back. You're not being criticised for condemning bad behaviour; you're being criticised because your condemnation is extremely selective.

You don't receive "nasty comments" for speaking out. You get called out because your anti-foreigner bias has become predictable.

For some reason, you seem to interpret that pushback as victimisation. You regularly claim you're being attacked or targeted on the forum, when in reality people are simply challenging views they see as excessively one-sided.

The more outspoken and absolute your position becomes, the more likely others are to push back and provide balance.

That's not persecution, it's the natural consequence of repeatedly presenting the same biased narrative.

The type of Brit idiots who give a bad name and a bad image towards all falangs in Thailand.

6 hours ago, Keeps said:

Clearly the guy was completely out of order so no defending him. Deserves whatever is coming his way.

However, I do not feel it unreasonable to assume that the guy has spent some time here as there is mention of him being involved in similar confrontations on several occasions in the past, this being the most serious incident. I can therefore not unreasonably assume that he is here on some type of visa. If he entered visa exempt I would not unreasonably assume that some action to remove him would have been taken by now.

How would your call for cessation of visa exempt entry for Brits have made any difference in this instance if indeed my assumptions are correct?

Are you sure you wasn't just trying to 'poke the bear'?

Too easy to poke the bear. Everyday occurence. Are these bad ones chavs?

5 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

The pattern is fairly obvious:

- Thai assaults Thai? Silence.

- Foreigner assaults Thai? "Terrible foreigner."

- Thai assaults foreigner? "The foreigner must have done something to deserve it."

Ha ha, nailed it again Richard 👍

My problem (no problem) is that I love Thailand too much ❤️

11 hours ago, Rockyroad said:

Good news not Patts, bad news another Brit. Time Thailand ceased visa exemption for Brits.

Plus convicts & Yanks. 👍

2 minutes ago, Sigmund said:

The type of Brit idiots who give a bad name to all falangs in Thailand.

Fortunately, most Thais are far less inclined to judge an entire group by the actions of a few individuals. Apart from a handful of tourist hotspots where repeated exposure to bad behaviour can understandably create frustration, where familiarity breeds contempt, interactions between Thais and foreigners remain overwhelmingly positive throughout the country.

That speaks well of Thai tolerance.

Forums such as this can also create a highly distorted picture. We consume a steady diet of foreigner-related incidents, giving them a prominence that is entirely disproportionate to their actual occurrence. Many of these stories barely feature in the wider Thai media, while countless incidents involving Thais or regional visitors pass unnoticed by the expat community.

The reality is simple: for every story involving a misbehaving farang, there are many more involving other foreigners (i.e. Chinese etc), and vastly more involving Thais themselves. Human behaviour is the constant; nationality is usually incidental.

Fortunately, most Thais seem to understand that. Some on this forum, however, remain determined not to.

3 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Fortunately, most Thais are far less inclined to judge an entire group by the actions of a few individuals. Apart from a handful of tourist hotspots where repeated exposure to bad behaviour can understandably create frustration, where familiarity breeds contempt, interactions between Thais and foreigners remain overwhelmingly positive throughout the country.

That speaks well of Thai tolerance.

Forums such as this can also create a highly distorted picture. We consume a steady diet of foreigner-related incidents, giving them a prominence that is entirely disproportionate to their actual occurrence. Many of these stories barely feature in the wider Thai media, while countless incidents involving Thais or regional visitors pass unnoticed by the expat community.

The reality is simple: for every story involving a misbehaving farang, there are many more involving other foreigners (i.e. Chinese etc), and vastly more involving Thais themselves. Human behaviour is the constant; nationality is usually incidental.

Fortunately, most Thais seem to understand that. Some on this forum, however, remain determined not to.

Human nature is what it is, no matter what one may claim. To generalize is unavoidable, like it or not.

7 hours ago, Dcheech said:

Standard Procedure in CM for a Brit experiencing mental health issues, plus violent & abusive is Deportation to Pattaya. However as he repeatedly attacked the BIB, stronger measures may apply.


He drove, without a helmet right into the Thapae checkpoint. Then got ugly.

With his apparent mental history, it’s debateable whether he should be riding/driving. A vehicle is a lethal weapon in the wrong hands and if he is escalating……

8 minutes ago, Sigmund said:

Human nature is what it is, no matter what one may claim. To generalize is unavoidable, like it or not.

The common theme is tatts. 90% of these morons have them.

3 minutes ago, Rockyroad said:

The common theme is tatts. 90% of these morons have them.

Including Thais of course.

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15 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Fortunately, most Thais seem to understand that. Some on this forum, however, remain determined not to.

It isn't the normal Thais that we are worried about. It is the loony politician who sees a band wagon to jump on. The politicians are the ones passing the laws. Or the military when there is no civil Government.

555, I sure there are lots of blame to go around. We got younger guys coming now every middle age seem to be juiced up wearing tank tops walking and acting like they here waiting for their next MMA fight.

Give them some alcohol unknown weed content next thing you know we got another morning thread about a foreigner gone wild!

Then you got the Indians and Arabs one wrong look, one wrong word,, they seem to go off the deep end.

Then of course the Chinese Triads here fighting over hotpot and shrimp 🤣

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4 minutes ago, thailand49 said:

555, I sure there are lots of blame to go around. We got younger guys coming now every middle age seem to be juiced up wearing tank tops walking and acting like they here waiting for their next MMA fight.

Give them some alcohol unknown weed content next thing you know we got another morning thread about a foreigner gone wild!

Then you got the Indians and Arabs one wrong look, one wrong word,, they seem to go off the deep end.

Then of course the Chinese Triads here fighting over hotpot and shrimp 🤣

And the Thai gangs, Who dont fight one on one, but in a gang then run away,

31 minutes ago, Sigmund said:

Human nature is what it is, no matter what one may claim. To generalize is unavoidable, like it or not.

You miss point - I'll keep it simple.

One foreigner do bad thing.

Most Thai not think all foreigners bad.

Thai judge person, not whole group.

That why most foreigners still treated well every day, even when bad foreigner in news.

Good way to think, I think.

22 minutes ago, Geoff914 said:

It isn't the normal Thais that we are worried about. It is the loony politician who sees a band wagon to jump on. The politicians are the ones passing the laws. Or the military when there is no civil Government.

Thats a valid point - but what we are really seeing is a lot of hot hair and egotistical announcements.

Whats really changed ? crack-down on nominee companies - which are illegal anyway.

Firm Visa regulations - Thats the norm for any country.

I don't really see that anything has become worse because of negative stories.

What have you seen ?

12 minutes ago, MikeandDow said:

And the Thai gangs, Who dont fight one on one, but in a gang then run away,

Correction I didn't mentioned Thai gangs!

Please proof read it was short and clear to your standard.

I do agree when you mentioned Thai gangs can't seem to fight one on one particularly the so call security guards and motorbike taxi.

1 hour ago, Keeps said:

Explain yourself. Am I not allowed to make assumptions? The second sentence of your post makes no sense whatsoever.

I'm intrigued as to how you will respond.

@newbee2022 which bit of my post do you not quite understand? Now, I'm trying g to make allowances for you being a Mick (and we really don't need to go much further to detail your mental capabilities based on that fact alone) but please enlighten me if you need more information.

5 minutes ago, thailand49 said:

Correction I didn't mentioned Thai gangs!

Please proof read it was short and clear to your standard.

I do agree when you mentioned Thai gangs can't seem to fight one on one particularly the so call security guards and motorbike taxi.

I know you did not mention the Thai gangs, that is why i started my comment with "and " which means add to your comment, it is not my standard but the forums standard

19 minutes ago, thailand49 said:

555, I sure there are lots of blame to go around. We got younger guys coming now every middle age seem to be juiced up wearing tank tops walking and acting like they here waiting for their next MMA fight.

Give them some alcohol unknown weed content next thing you know we got another morning thread about a foreigner gone wild!

Then you got the Indians and Arabs one wrong look, one wrong word,, they seem to go off the deep end.

Then of course the Chinese Triads here fighting over hotpot and shrimp 🤣

Tourist arrivals to Thailand have increased roughly fourfold over the past twenty years. Statistically, that also means four times as many idiots doing idiotic things and finding themselves in trouble.

What many people miss, however, is that incidents do not scale neatly in a 1:1 ratio with visitor numbers.

The tourists are not evenly spread across the country. They concentrate in the same hotspots, beaches, nightlife districts, roads, shopping areas and transport hubs. Pattaya, Phuket and parts of Bangkok are dealing with vastly more people than they were twenty years ago, while the physical space itself has not increased by the same proportion.

The result is greater density, greater congestion and greater competition. More people competing for the same road space, restaurant seats, beach frontage and business opportunities. More taxis chasing fares. More bars chasing customers. More vendors competing for the same tourist Baht.

That naturally creates friction. Residents become less tolerant of inconsiderate behaviour. Business owners face greater competition and tighter margins. Roads become more congested. Tempers shorten. Interactions that would have been positive twenty years ago can become frustrating today simply because everyone is dealing with a far greater volume of people.

There is also an element of familiarity breeding contempt. A foreign tourist is an interesting novelty when you encounter a handful each day. Less so when you encounter thousands.

Then there is the visibility problem.

Twenty years ago, if two drunken tourists had a fight in Pattaya, a few bystanders saw it, the police dealt with it, and perhaps it appeared as a small article in a local newspaper. Today, the same incident is filmed from six different angles, uploaded to TikTok, Facebook, YouTube and Reddit, picked up by online news sites and viewed by millions around the world within hours.

People often compare today's visibility of incidents with yesterday's actual incidents. They are not the same thing.

Thailand may have four times the tourists, but it also has thousands of times more smartphones, social media users, CCTV cameras and online news outlets documenting every bad moment. The result is that incidents feel far more common than they once did because we now see almost every one of them.

So... some problems genuinely increase with overtourism and congestion. But the impression that Thailand is awash with incidents is also heavily amplified by the fact that almost every drunken punch-up, jet-ski dispute, road-rage incident or balcony fall is now recorded, shared and repeatedly pushed into people's news feeds.