Carman Tells Mother Pattaya Arrest Is Real

Not coming home any time soon .

Wonder do murderers get to serve

their sentences back home after

some time has passed ?

2 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

When parents are absent or present and dangerous, the child doesn't learn one of the major basics of life, respect for life itself,humans and animals, and is how most serial killers get their starts.

NB Thanks for the psycho babble -- I don't know that anyone has seriously suggested Carman is a serial killer. From all that has been divulged, I do not believe the late Ms. Cake was lured to Carman's room with the intent to kill her.

This from 3 days ago:

Accused murderer Simon Peter Carman spent much of the past decade isolating himself from many of his friends and family in Australia, according to those who knew him.

The ABC understands Mr Carman had little contact with his parents and siblings, and preferred to spend his time in Thailand, where he's been living since late last year.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-07-04/who-is-simon-carman-thai-teenager-murder-case/106857974

Edited 14 hours ago14 hr by JerryM

2 hours ago, jacko45k said:

No, homicide does not qualify. Royal pardons may reduce the time served.

Admitting to a crime reduces the sentence here.

16 minutes ago, ryandb said:

Do you not think the environment in which we raised has a large influence on our character and morals?

Maybe in the general case but it seems there is a lot more current than what you suggest. I have read this in various news reports but I'm just going to use Gemini:

According to local reports and accounts from neighbors in Pattaya:

Brain Tumor Surgery & Visible Scars: Carman has a prominent, large scar on the back of his head. He told local acquaintances and restaurant staff that he had previously undergone major surgery for a brain tumor.

Impact on Speech and Gait: Neighbors and local business owners noted that his speech was heavily slurred or slow, and his physical movements were noticeably sluggish. He explicitly attributed his slow speech and deliberate gait to the after-effects of his brain tumor surgery and related injuries.

Prior Medical Suspensions: Before relocating from Western Australia to Thailand, Australian authorities had suspended his firearms license on medical grounds, which reports linked to his ongoing recovery and surgical history.

Legal Relevance: Thai legal experts have noted that documentation of his past brain injuries, surgeries, or underlying neurological/mental health conditions could be introduced by his defense team to argue mitigating circumstances or capacity issues under Thai law, where he currently faces the death penalty.

NB this is a photo of Carman from the ABC link above. Unrecognizable from the later photos

Edited 11 hours ago11 hr by JerryM

5 minutes ago, wavodavo said:

If I were the Police I would be checking all missing persons lists in the Pattaya area for other possible victims.

You left out the part about his accomplice.

Its cases like this that the murder deserves the death penalty jail is to good for him

3 hours ago, jacko45k said:

No, homicide does not qualify. Royal pardons may reduce the time served.

Wrong, all crimes qualify if there is a prisoner transfer agreement between the countries.

Pardons granted on Royal birthdays and other prestigious days also qualify for sentence reductions. However, the amount of reduction is governed by the behavioral ' class ' that the prisoner has achieved whilst in prison.

4 hours ago, Jim Blue said:

Not coming home any time soon .

Wonder do murderers get to serve

their sentences back home after

some time has passed ?

Yes, they do, details of which depend on the Prisoner Transfer Agreements between the two countries.

In a case like this, he would need to serve at least eight years before applying under the PTA, bearing in mind the balance to serve of the sentence. If he was approved for transfer, he would then be in an Australian prison in this case.

42 minutes ago, wavodavo said:

Jerry , how can you be so sure that he was not a serial killer or had committed other murders ? Look at the facts ...he had an empty suitcase on the ready , he chose a very small bodied victim that would fit , after stuffing her in the case he left her in the bathroom and carried on as normal all day. Did his laundry , went shopping ,had a couple of meals at his local restuarant , bought some beers at the 7/11 , and watched a movie as if nothing had happened.Then at 9.15 pm he put the case with the body on his motorbike and dumped her at his pre-selected site. If this was the first time this grub had ever done this kind of thing do you think that he would just have a normal relaxing day or would he be panicking and stressed out ? If I were the Police I would be checking all missing persons lists in the Pattaya area for other possible victims.

You are describing the behaviour of a sociopath here.

2 minutes ago, Scouse123 said:

Wrong, all crimes qualify if there is a prisoner transfer agreement between the countries.

Pardons granted on Royal birthdays and other prestigious days also qualify for sentence reductions. However, the amount of reduction is governed by the behavioral ' class ' that the prisoner has achieved whilst in prison.

Yes, they do, details of which depend on the Prisoner Transfer Agreements between the two countries.

In a case like this, he would need to serve at least eight years before applying under the PTA, bearing in mind the balance to serve of the sentence. If he was approved for transfer, he would then be in an Australian prison in this case.

In this case there shouldn't be anyone to transfer, that's unless the body is sent home.

1 hour ago, rwill said:

Admitting to a crime reduces the sentence here.

1 hour ago, rwill said:

Admitting to a crime reduces the sentence here.

5 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

The actions of people like this is usually started with a very damaged childhood. Abuse, neglect and other trauma over that time has them going into the world thinking control and aggression is how problems are solved. nature and nurture, with some born with a predisposition to this behavior, unemotional traits, but an abusive home life exacerbates it, having that person entering the world with no empathy and prone to violence.

That mom stands by her son is not unusual, an urge to protect her son, denial, culpability feelings and a want to protect the family's reputation, her albeit being a likely part of his actions as an adult.

When parents are absent or present and dangerous, the child doesn't learn one of the major basics of life, respect for life itself,humans and animals, and is how most serial killers get their starts.

Load of nonsense, some people are just bad and that's it, regardless of their upbringing.

Psychiatrist claptrap, trying to find justification when there is none.

Yes, @rwill admitting to the crime reduces the sentence, pretty much standard in many countries around the globe.

Edited 10 hours ago10 hr by Scouse123

6 hours ago, Artisi said:

Feel sorry for mum having to live with this animals actions.

Looking back I am sure she wishes she had used a condom

21 minutes ago, Scouse123 said:

4 hours ago, jacko45k said:

No, homicide does not qualify.

Wrong, all crimes qualify if there is a prisoner transfer agreement between the countries.

Right. I don't know the details of the treaty between Thailand and Australia (if there is one), but I'm familiar with the US - Thai prisoner transfer treaty, and it contains only the following exclusions:

"3. That the offender to be transferred did not commit an offense:

(a) against the internal or external security of the State;

(b) against the Head of State of the Transferring State or a member of his family; or

(c) against legislation protecting national art treasures."

22 minutes ago, Scouse123 said:

Psychiatrist claptrap, trying to find justification when there is none.

He reads that stuff in the hope of healing himself...

1 hour ago, ryandb said:

So someone who, since their 30s, hasn't had much family contact with their parents or family for the past decade. This absolutely reads of someone who didn't receive the love, care, or guidance from his parents, which can lead to what the previous poster suggested. Do you not think the environment in which we raised has a large influence on our character and morals?

No, I don't.

It's up to you to negotiate your way through life and not expect Mummy to be running around picking up the pieces, the deal should never be from cradle until grave. It makes people not take responsibility for themselves.

There are people who have everything, two parents, fantastic upbringing, the best schools and universities/colleges that go out and commit the most heinous crimes for no apparent reason.

We then have people who drag themselves up in the world and become billionaires.

1 hour ago, JerryM said:

You left out the part about his accomplice.

Knives and forks in his cutlery drawer is another glaring omission.

And it might well be that he had a scarf somewhere in his wardrobe. Almost certainly a belt. Both important for serial stranglers.

50 minutes ago, Scouse123 said:

Load of nonsense, some people are just bad and that's it, regardless of their upbringing.

Psychiatrist claptrap, trying to find justification when there is none.

Yes, @rwill admitting to the crime reduces the sentence, pretty much standard in many countries around the globe.

I can show links that prove this. Granted a very few are born this way, which I've always stated, but the vast majority are learned behavior at home, like most other social problems. Even if they are born a certain way, home life can either exacerbate it or lower the chances for heinous behavior to happen later as adults.That a parent was responsible for his later actions isn't justification for him doing it.

2 hours ago, Bangkok Barry said:

You certainly do a lot of assuming that might not apply in this case. People's behaviour is also influenced by far more than childhood experiences. To say that his mother is 'a likely part of his actions as an adult', (you don't even say possibly) has no validity at all.

It's not assuming when you get your information from professionals and valid websites that specialize in these matters. I don't guess nor assume. Very easy to look these things up. The fact is, that most behaviors people do in life, is learned from birth to 5 years old, and developed further until they leave the house. Everything you learn about life is seen with interactions from parents and siblings first, then friends and teachers afterwards. Peer pressure does hurt some, but how they learned how to manage other people and make positive choices still begins at home. Many children rebel and turn away as teens, but the roots stay with them, unless they die as teens or are sent to jail for early actions from involvement with those peers.

18 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

I can show links that prove this. .

Show your proof that it applies to the protagonist.

23 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

I can show links that prove this. Granted a very few are born this way, which I've always stated, but the vast majority are learned behavior at home, like most other social problems. Even if they are born a certain way, home life can either exacerbate it or lower the chances for heinous behavior to happen later as adults.That a parent was responsible for his later actions isn't justification for him doing it.

Load of nonsense. Lots of serial killers had normal lives.