Foreign Man Refuses to Pay Dental Bill in Pattaya Clinic

10 hours ago, jacko45k said:

I blame the tatts..... maybe the weed too!

Is the dental clinic properly registered / certified?

Are the dental staff all correctly qualified?

Just now, BusyB said:

Like most drugs weed can lead to psychosis/psychotic episodes. Most people can use it safely a few can't. Those who can't should leave it alone.

I've said this countless times, but am met with the whole 'it relaxes you' brigrade.

Just like any other drug, when it's abused, smoked massively, it can cause some massive psychosis effects. My mate was smoking it everyday for a week, really hitting it hard - it was causing some massive bizarre behaviour (including violence) - then when we left for Singapore to continue our holiday and he came off it, he was totally messed up - AGGRESSIVE beyond belief where i actually thought he could do some serious damage.

If you have a little joint before bed, relax and go to sleep then sure no issue at all. But alot will smoke it copious amounts, mix it with alcohol too.

20 minutes ago, J Branche said:

What's going to happen is that if this becomes common the clinics, dentists, shops, etc will require payment before services are rendered

Hotels has been doing that, in form of a guarantee, for as long as I remember. Cant see it make any difference if other business asked the same, either by CC or cash

12 hours ago, Olmate said:

That's a cheap xray and treatment, 400bht,and my guess Russian not tin tank!

There is no treatment that would cost only 400 baht. They probably charged him a consultation fee without treating anything. Sounds like the clinic manager has a chip on her shoulder and hates foreigners and it's that attitude that made him upset enough to flip her the bird and skip a 400 baht bill. It's amazing how Pattaya - where the economy is 90% reliant on foreigner money - is full of Thais who have a seething resentment against foreigners. (it's understandable to be frustrated with a**hole tourists, but you gotta at least like or be interested in foreigners to work in a 90% tourist spot.

the man, who stated to staff he was an American aged 27

Americans are really hitting the headlines now!

Just now, PingRoundTheWorld said:

There is no treatment that would cost only 400 baht. They probably charged him a consultation fee without treating anything. Sounds like the clinic manager has a chip on her shoulder and hates foreigners and it's that attitude that made him upset enough to flip her the bird and skip a 400 baht bill. It's amazing how Pattaya - where the economy is 90% reliant on foreigner money - is full of Thais who have a seething resentment against foreigners. (it's understandable to be frustrated with a**hole tourists, but you gotta at least like or be interested in foreigners to work in a 90% tourist spot.

Another brilliant assumption!

Just lace illegal Drugs with Rat Poison and the problems will go away eventually!

It sounds so simple, but effective yes?

Imagine a world where there is less violence and no Junkies laying abot on the streets infecting te neighbourhood.🤔

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Savvy guy, but didn't factor in the facial recognition technology from the picture Thai Customs took off him at the airport. He'll be identified and blacklisted swiftly back to FLA or wherever in....5, 4, 3, 2...

I wonder if he got any relief from his toothache? Did they do anything or just take Xrays and then tell him extraction will be 5,000 baht? Something about this article is fishy. First how they know he is 27 and a yank. Second no mention of fixing the toothache. If he was stoned he might have thought 400 fixed the problem and they thought 400 would find the problem.

Not totally exonerating him no matter what you don't flee a bill.

Just now, SamSF said:

Savvy guy, but didn't factor in the facial recognition technology from the picture Thai Customs took off him at the airport. He'll be identified and blacklisted swiftly back to FLA or wherever in....5, 4, 3, 2...

He'll pay a 500 baht fine, say sorry, and be on his way as long as he pinky promises never to do it again.

Question - would he have done this in Singapore? There in you ask - why does he comfortable doing this in Thailand? That's the answer to the issue rite there.

15 hours ago, ChaiyaTH said:

That would the cheapest local dentist for a simplistic tooth extraction, or a paid consult at a dentist where it should be free (virtually anywhere).

Can't trust dentists in Thailand, I had several times that they told me i needed work done while it turned out to be false.

You probably have your reasons for disliking Thai dentists but despite most I know offer a free consult, why SHOULD it be free?

The guy worked hard all his life, had to be better than the others at school and college to get to dental school, spent another 5 or 6 years plus those he has by now adding to his job experience. Why should he do anything for free?

The dentist has been cheated by some drugged moron, who left the place insulting him and showing him the finger and your reaction is to comment about Thai dentists not being trustworthy.

7 hours ago, ChaiyaTH said:

The clinic should be inspected on not follow regulations and procedures, one would be to do a intake on new patients which includes a passport copy, filling out any medical details as well checking your blood pressure optionally. Fine her 10,000 for that.

There is no regulation saying clinics must keep a copy from the passport of it´s patients.

All they need to ask are name, family name, date of birth and any medical conditions or medication which could be important for the clinic to know, like allergies to antibiotics.

And a signature of course.

If the patient fails to inform the clinic correctly, gets the wrong medication and dies from an anaphylactic shock, the clinic will face no charges.

Just now, PingRoundTheWorld said:

There is no treatment that would cost only 400 baht. They probably charged him a consultation fee without treating anything. Sounds like the clinic manager has a chip on her shoulder and hates foreigners and it's that attitude that made him upset enough to flip her the bird and skip a 400 baht bill. It's amazing how Pattaya - where the economy is 90% reliant on foreigner money - is full of Thais who have a seething resentment against foreigners. (it's understandable to be frustrated with a**hole tourists, but you gotta at least like or be interested in foreigners to work in a 90% tourist spot.

I have met quite a few guys who somehow feel all this negativity, maybe even hate, from Thais towards foreigners or as you put it "Pattaya is full of Thais who have a seething resentment against foreigners."

I have always asked them the same question - and never got an answer.

Maybe you can help me out. This was my question:

Why are you still here?

16 hours ago, ChaiyaTH said:

That would the cheapest local dentist for a simplistic tooth extraction, or a paid consult at a dentist where it should be free (virtually anywhere). Can't trust dentists in Thailand, I had several times that they told me i needed work done while it turned out to be false.

Vietnam now offers free flights + luxury hotel while getting treatments, implants cost just 20K baht too over 60K for the same in Thailand. Just a few days ago Vietnam did 6 organ transplants from 1 brain dead patient to 6 other patients, with 200 people, with success.

It's just funny at this point, they really stand no chance against these Vietnamese, all economy and business will slowly bleed to them. It even shook things up in China, they are impressed by Vnam, that says plenty. China gov also capped implants to 600 USD each.

Remember this dentist in Chiang Mai wanting to take me for half a million, saying my lower teeth would be done within 2 years max, meanwhile we are now 12 years later, not a single issue.

Ahh so it's not just the joooos who are out to get you. It's dentists, especially Thai dentists. All dentists charge a fee for an exam. A consult is not an exam. A consult is where the dentist provides an estimate of the cost of treatment. exams are charged for. Dentists have to cover their expenses and are not charities.

You do not appear to understand what a dental implant is or what an appropriate dental treatment is. The cheap low cost "implants" are not standard dental implants. They are instead the equivalent of permanently affixing a denture plate in the mouth. This type of device is associated with complications and dental hygiene issues as food and tissue debris becomes trapped under the dental plate. The higher priced dental implants are in respect to the standardized course of treatment for a dental implant. A titanium anchor is put into the jaw bone, and a healing period must occur. Sometimes a bone graft is required. Then, the crown (false tooth) is attached. Materials sourced from Europe or the USA cost more than the lower quality local region sourced screws and crowns.

Wonderful that Vietnam was able to do 200 organ transplants from 1 donor. Did you pick that up from the Mirror or the Sun?Good for you that you have no "issues" with your teeth. On the other hand the people who are exposed to the bad breath and and who see the brown rotting teeth,may say otherwise.

Some of the blame in on the weed brigade don't seem to realize that it is indeed possible to drink a fifth of rot gut take a few pills and then take a few hits or smoke a joint....while i do not know i would guess that the weed was the least of the causes of his bat <deleted> crazy behavior. If all he did was smoke a joint I seriously doubt he would have gone into a rage.

As for those who seem to want to blame this incident on the dental clinic? You would prefer that they turn him away at the door and not even attempt to help him? What a sad response.

Thai people are generally some of the kindest most helpful people in the world. Anyone who lives in Thailand and somehow seems to hate and want to blame the Thais in most every confrontational situation might want to reconsider why they are in Thailand.

4 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Wow. What a lowlife creep. America has a bad enough name already, around the world, due to the toxic clown and his policies. Now this? Two peas in a pod. Maybe he can get a job within the Trump administration, he seems well qualified.

I’m not sure how this connects to Trump or any administration, this situation is about an individual’s behavior not politics.

I get it that sometimes it feels like we’re so used to viewing everything through a political lens that we end up forcing connections that aren’t really there.

However, not every bad action reflects a broader political issue or a specific leader—it can just be one person making a poor decision.

We’d probably have a more productive discussions if we focused on the actual topics instead of pulling in unrelated political angles all the time!

You are wanted here for murder, assault, robbery, any kind of violence charge etc. and "Be on the lookout for this pixelled face".

And finally a non-pixellated mug for people to look out for..... and all over 400b!

🤣🤣🤣🤣

21 hours ago, ArchieBunker said:

And here I thought that dope smokers were supposed to be mellow and easy going. I guess this shows otherwise.

Archive that was 1960's happy hippy times and over 60 years ago.

Things have changed since then .

11 hours ago, damo1967 said:

I reckon within 24-48 hours we will be hearing more about this idiot. Gonna cost him a hell of lot more than 400thb haha. Can face-recognition be successful from a 'picture'? Seems like a few clear shots of the idiot.

Hopefully the BIB will grab him and force him to return the profuct in liu of payment

10 hours ago, Hawaiian said:

Are you saying she should have lacked compassion. Supposedly he in was in pain and possibly suffering from sepsis which can be fatal if not attended to. Not sure where you are from, but I don't think she was motivated by money.

Mate , you've obviously never run a business because your comment shows that you haven't. Any business that provides goods or services has to get paid for such. Tne very nieve manager of that dental clinic obviously has no business acumen. If she doesn't collect the fees from her customers then how can she pay her overheads.. rent power bill etc. and what about staff. So at the end of the month she has to tell her staff sorry everybody but you get no pay because none of our customers paid. Also , there are numerous dentists in Pattaya and I wonder how many others he tried out before he went to Miss Dumbs***s free clinic.

Just now, wavodavo said:

Mate , you've obviously never run a business because your comment shows that you haven't. Any business that provides goods or services has to get paid for such. Tne very nieve manager of that dental clinic obviously has no business acumen. If she doesn't collect the fees from her customers then how can she pay her overheads.. rent power bill etc. and what about staff. So at the end of the month she has to tell her staff sorry everybody but you get no pay because none of our customers paid. Also , there are numerous dentists in Pattaya and I wonder how many others he tried out before he went to Miss Dumbs***s free clinic.

I was a building contractor for nearly 40 years. During that time there were trouble calls that I did not charge for because it was a simple fix. Guess what? I got tons of referrals from these acts of kindness.

My mechanic has done the same for me.

22 hours ago, boloaf said:

I have tattoos on my arms and chest. I'm 82 and have never dodged a dental, or any other sort of bill in my life.

Heck, WW2 Naval tatts are not part of the criminal element!

7 hours ago, Reddavy said:

You are going to the wrong dentist buddy. 🤷🏼

Well it usually includes a clean.. but she is not the cheapest. Hardly surprising as usually several trainees crowd me too.

15 hours ago, Kandinski said:

Guessing huh? If the guy had snort 10 lines and taken one puff would you still blame it one what you could smell?

Too right, bloody pot head!

Just now, Hawaiian said:

I was a building contractor for nearly 40 years. During that time there were trouble calls that I did not charge for because it was a simple fix. Guess what? I got tons of referrals from these acts of kindness.

My mechanic has done the same for me.

I forgot to mention that there have been times when my dentist would not charge me because he fixed the problem in a few minutes.

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On 5/1/2026 at 7:45 AM, mfd101 said:

Yes, what can you get done for 400฿ in a dental clinic? A couple of coffees?

I guess it was one x-ray and a consultation fee, maybe plus sterilization fee.

Does anyone know how to contact the correct people in Vietnam for dental work? I'd like to replace a molar.

On 5/1/2026 at 8:08 AM, jacko45k said:

Good point... a filling usually costs me near 2000 baht.

My kid had some work done. Around 700 to 1000 baht each. Just posting my experience.

18 hours ago, unblocktheplanet said:

Does one say Mom and the other an anchor? (hehe, just kidding!)

I have an anchor tatt. What?