French tourist injured at Phuket shooting range

A local woman in the North went to a driving range to end her life.

She was successful. It happens.

Gun range suicides became frequent enough in Pattaya during the 'teen years that a lot of new gun range supervision regulations were put into place. For instance, unknown customers could not be left alone to shoot. I'm sure enforcement has faded with time.

5 minutes ago, dddave said:

Gun range suicides became frequent enough in Pattaya during the 'teen years that a lot of new gun range supervision regulations were put into place. For instance, unknown customers could not be left alone to shoot. I'm sure enforcement has faded with time.

No one knows what was going on inside that person's head before they took their own life. Firing 4 shots before the final one might show they were still on the edge, and not sure. People with guns who are out to kill themselves don't need to go to a range. It said he bought the ammo there but nothing about renting a gun so it would be his. If he didn't have any ammo beforehand he might have went there specifically to end his life, but why the 4 prior shots? No telling now.

1 hour ago, fredwiggy said:

No one knows what was going on inside that person's head before they took their own life. Firing 4 shots before the final one might show they were still on the edge, and not sure. People with guns who are out to kill themselves don't need to go to a range. It said he bought the ammo there but nothing about renting a gun so it would be his. If he didn't have any ammo beforehand he might have went there specifically to end his life, but why the 4 prior shots? No telling now.

Agree about suicide but in the article it’s mentioned he was taken by ambulance to a hospital and doesn’t mentioned him passing unless I missed something

It’s tragic though that he did seem to attempt it. Hope he recovers 🙏

7 minutes ago, Bigwave12 said:

Agree about suicide but in the article it’s mentioned he was taken by ambulance to a hospital and doesn’t mentioned him passing unless I missed something

It’s tragic though that he did seem to attempt it. Hope he recovers 🙏

Oops! Yes, that's a good thing, as he now has another chance.

2 hours ago, mberbae said:

A local woman in the North went to a driving range to end her life.

She was successful. It happens.

Good (not clean) way to bite the dust 👍

1 hour ago, fredwiggy said:

No one knows what was going on inside that person's head before they took their own life. Firing 4 shots before the final one might show they were still on the edge, and not sure. People with guns who are out to kill themselves don't need to go to a range. It said he bought the ammo there but nothing about renting a gun so it would be his. If he didn't have any ammo beforehand he might have went there specifically to end his life, but why the 4 prior shots? No telling no

1 hour ago, fredwiggy said:

No one knows what was going on inside that person's head before they took their own life. Firing 4 shots before the final one might show they were still on the edge, and not sure. People with guns who are out to kill themselves don't need to go to a range. It said he bought the ammo there but nothing about renting a gun so it would be his. If he didn't have any ammo beforehand he might have went there specifically to end his life, but why the 4 prior shots? No telling now.

I think it's unimportant whether he rented the gun or it was his own.

He committed suicide. Or tried to. Surviving is not the best option.

Sad to do it in young age

When he wakes up, two possibilities:

1) He sees that he has been given a second chance at life, by god or by fate.

2) He blames himself for screwing up once again, which adds to his distress.

4 hours ago, wensiensheng said:

Surely there must be cc tv inside the range? That would provide conclusive proof of what happened.

That doesn't need videos... it was a suicide attempt...

43 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Surviving is the best option. Then receiving help so it doesn't happen again. Life is the most precious thing we have, and it only happens once on this earth.

I assume you never met people after they survived a shot wound in the head. I did. Can't call it a life. And if someone wants to commit suicide he/she should have the right to do. With the gun if you know how to do (a lot of splattered blood), otherwise by medication, assisted by a friend/partner.

20 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

I assume you never met people after they survived a shot wound in the head. I did. Can't call it a life. And if someone wants to commit suicide he/she should have the right to do. With the gun if you know how to do (a lot of splattered blood), otherwise by medication, assisted by a friend/partner.

I've know a few who hit their heads in motorcycle accidents. My ex's brother here is one. Yes, it can be a hard life is certain areas of the brain are damaged, as he suffered. others are doing fine. Having a second chance, like this one has, can have him getting that help and realizing there is a tomorrow that might be better.

Shooting ranges should refuse solo walk-in customers. An instructor standing nearby usually isn't going to be able to stop someone shooting themself.

Requiring visitors to come with at least one other person would act as a deterrent for a suicidal person.

5 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

No one knows what was going on inside that person's head before they took their own life. Firing 4 shots before the final one might show they were still on the edge, and not sure. People with guns who are out to kill themselves don't need to go to a range. It said he bought the ammo there but nothing about renting a gun so it would be his. If he didn't have any ammo beforehand he might have went there specifically to end his life, but why the 4 prior shots? No telling now.

Hm, Farangs (foreigners) are forbidden to possess fire arms !!

5 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

No one knows what was going on inside that person's head before they took their own life. Firing 4 shots before the final one might show they were still on the edge, and not sure. People with guns who are out to kill themselves don't need to go to a range. It said he bought the ammo there but nothing about renting a gun so it would be his. If he didn't have any ammo beforehand he might have went there specifically to end his life, but why the 4 prior shots? No telling now.

"It said he bought the ammo there but nothing about renting a gun so it would be his"

No, it would not be his gun. The ranges provide the gun and the customer buys a package (at exorbitant prices) of 5-10 rounds of ammunition + a target.

20 minutes ago, off road pat said:

Hm, Farangs (foreigners) are forbidden to possess fire arms !!

Yes, unless he had it illegally. I figured it was rented after posting that, along with the ammo purchase.

6 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Yes, unless he had it illegally. I figured it was rented after posting that, along with the ammo purchase.

I have been to gun ranges a couple of times with friends in Thailand. We could choose a gun from a wide range of choice and had to buy the ammo.

I saw Thais that came regularly with their own gun. But if a farang would come up with his own (illegal) gun !? I think that would ring some bells and the police would be called.

The (military) people running the gun range were very responsible people. To my knowledge.

I just wanted to shoot some legendary guns like a Glock and Colts. I used to shoot several guns when I was in the army.

3 hours ago, 241195_1469957797 said:

That doesn't need videos... it was a suicide attempt...

Assuming that you weren’t there to witness it, you are basing your statement on a single sentence in the article that quoted a staff member. The quote may or may not be true.

I am not suggesting that someone shot this guy (although that is an albeit very faint possibility), but it could have been an accident. And an investigation might reveal any shortcomings in the safety procedures at the range.

So, you may be quite right about a suicide attempt, but you don’t know that. CCTV should confirm the facts and any contributing circumstances.

So imho, cctv videos are indeed required in respect of this case, and if they aren’t already installed, then they should be. That way incidents such as this don’t have to rely on witnesses recounting what they think happened and why.

At the very least they provide range staff with protection from accusations that safety procedures weren’t followed. Get it on tape and nobody can accuse them of anything….so long as they do actually follow the required procedures.

5 minutes ago, off road pat said:

I have been to gun ranges a couple of times with friends in Thailand. We could choose a gun from a wide range of choice and had to buy the ammo.

I saw Thais that came regularly with their own gun. But if a farang would come up with his own (illegal) gun !? I think that would ring some bells and the police would be called.

The (military) people running the gun range were very responsible people. To my knowledge.

I just wanted to shoot some legendary guns like a Glock and Colts. I used to shoot several guns when I was in the army.

Yes, i thought that as soon as I posted, that the ranges would rent just like the ones I went to in Texas. I sold just about every handgun you could imagine before I moved here. A large amount of Glocks. Only owned a Smith & Wesson .357 but will get a Thompson Center for hunting when we return , along with a small .380 to carry, likely a Sig Sauer P238.

Firing range with live bullets and guns they must be video and who was not thinking gun safety

13 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

Surviving is the best option. Then receiving help so it doesn't happen again. Life is the most precious thing we have, and it only happens once on this earth.

If he shot himself in the head, he would likely live with diminished intellectual and physical abilities. If the injury is severe, it would result in a horrible quality of life.

All those who have used firearms either in their jobs and in public accessible hobby shooting ranges, are aware of the many irresponsable weirdos who haunt the shooting ranges with absolutely no humility or respect towards the firearm and elementary firearm safety.

23 hours ago, Georgealbert said:

injured man, identified only as William, was found with a head wound

China has a death penalty for attempted suicides

Should be mandatory in all countries, we need to rid the planet of selfish, losers

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