Israeli embassy urges tourists to respect Thai laws & culture

To be clear I would be perfectly fine with and in fact be in favor of for all people entering Thailand to be given a document available in many languages of advice and suggestions above acceptable behavior in Thailand and also warnings about the current (arguably extreme) Thai laws now in effect to combat unwanted behavior.

Is that OK with you or do you think that only Israeis and Jews should receive such information?

Edited Saturday at 05:42 AM3 days by Jingthing

The Israeli embassy is being diplomatic.

That's the job of diplomats.

But I'm sure they can clearly see what's really going on now in Thailand

A season of hyper nationalism (by some but certainly not all Thais) for now specifically scapegoating Israelis and recently bleeding into explicit racist Jew hatred evidenced by the vile signs at the emabassy protests and also the clearly Islamist wave against Jews in Southern Thailand.

It doesn't do anything good for the long standing and important relationship between Israel and Thailand and also for their nationals living and visiting Thailand to be honest about what they know to be true.

Edited Saturday at 05:55 AM3 days by Jingthing

Troll post removed @Jingthing the news team does post topics to be trolled with you attack of “no Jews no news”. You were warned yesterday about comments aimed at the news team, so keep your comments to the topic or expect further action.

44 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

You proved my point dude.

Of course I'm aware of the incident with Italians.

Yet, let me check.

No hyper nationalist xenophobic protests at the Italian embassy.

(No ROMAN CATHOLICS OUT signs either.)

No demand that the Italian government try to educate all their nationals entering Thailand,

No angry mob successfully shutting down an important religious event for Italians.

Italy isn't the home land of the Catholics and Vatican city isn't Italian.

Edited Saturday at 06:22 AM3 days by stevenl

5 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Italy isn't the home land of the Catholics and Vatican city isn't Italian.

I never said it was. You're dodging the main point with terminally literal tactics.

Israel does NOT deserve to be only nation scapegoated by this ugly wave of hyper nationalism here.

1 hour ago, Flying Saucage said:

Everyone should understand that antisemitism is literally the fuel of Zionism, and that's why Zionists create antisemitism globally right now. Also in Thailand. That's why everyone critical of Israel is blamed to be antisemitic nowadays, but that's also why so many Israeli behave so badly. It follows a Zionist agenda, but it also follows the cabbalists prophecy in their predicted end-times.

I do not expect that many understand what I wrote, though.

I admit I didn't understand so I asked Gemini -

I concede the commenter's point that I don't understand his comment. Explain it to me like I'm 5.

Here is what that commenter is trying to say, broken down as simply as possible:

• The Big Claim: The commenter believes that people who support Israel (Zionists) actually want people to hate Jewish people (antisemitism) because it helps them achieve their goals.

• The Global Plot: They claim that these supporters are secretly causing hatred against Jewish people all over the world—even in places like Thailand—on purpose.

• The Blame Game: They argue that whenever someone criticizes the country of Israel today, they get unfairly called antisemitic, and that this is part of the secret plan.

• The Bad Behavior: They think that when some Israeli people act badly, it isn't an accident; it is part of this master plan to push a specific political agenda and fulfill an ancient religious end-of-the-world prophecy.

In short, the comment is pushing a classic conspiracy theory. It claims that a group of people are secretly controlling global events and manufacturing hatred against themselves on purpose to make their prophecies come true.

Edited Saturday at 06:52 AM3 days by Oliver Holzerfilled

3 hours ago, harvardgrad said:

Buddhist countries are supposed to be for the Muslims to conquer.

It was the Buddhist Kingdom of Siam that invaded and annexed the sovereign Malay Muslim Kingdom located in the so-called Southern Thailand provinces.

Thailand's history not much different than Israel's invasion and genocide of Palestinian Lebanon/Gaza.

Edited Saturday at 06:59 AM3 days by Srikcir

10 hours ago, Georgealbert said:

released a Thai-language video

Not direct enough to make any difference.

I suggest a video be played during the incoming flight to Thailand and/or in brochure form to each non-Thai citizen on board the incoming aircraft. Make it personal.

Edited Saturday at 07:03 AM3 days by Srikcir
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Really, the reaction should be toward Israelis behaving badly, not Jews in general as many Jews are not from Israel.... as that's like sanctioning all Catholics just because Spanish citizens are doing something wrong.

Also, there are many errant nationalities like Russians/Chinese etc. too, but they are not pointed out much as it's not useful to certain narratives... so it seems to be other dark motives and agendas smelling blood and trying to max it out to oppress as much as possible.

All crimes/misdeeds should be evaluated on a case-by-case basis and any outcomes directed toward individual perps... not resulting in generalised oppression or sanctions of an entire section of the population.

Edited Saturday at 07:09 AM3 days by Sir Dude

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

You proved my point dude.

Of course I'm aware of the incident with Italians.

Yet, let me check.

No hyper nationalist xenophobic protests at the Italian embassy.

(No ROMAN CATHOLICS OUT signs either.)

No demand that the Italian government try to educate all their nationals entering Thailand,

No angry mob successfully shutting down an important religious event for Italians

Quoting has gone mad hence the weird format

My wife, who many years ago ran a souvenir shop in Patong, told me the biggest thieves were the Italians. The shopkeepers had a sort of bush telegraph between them, and if they caught a thief, other shopkeepers would pile in. She'd charge them ten times the already hugely inflated price, or the police would be called. She loved the light-fingered Italians — it was payday.

The most gullible, she said, were the Japanese. She could massively overcharge them — 3,000 baht for a Buddha-head mask that had cost her 100 baht.

28 minutes ago, Srikcir said:

It was the Buddhist Kingdom of Siam that invaded and annexed the sovereign Malay Muslim Kingdom located in the so-called Southern Thailand provinces.

Thailand's history not much different than Israel's invasion and genocide of Palestinian Lebanon/Gaza.

It was the biggest land thieves of all - the British colonial bastards that gifted it to Siam so they got the railway to Burma. The British Empire is probably the single biggest source of conflict in the modern world - divide and rule. When the flag shaggers say they want their country back what they are in fact saying is they want their country to take other people's countries back , and white faces stained with sweat and coal dust drinking pints of mild for 3d whilst knocking one off to commemorative Corontion plates of QE2.

1 hour ago, Oliver Holzerfilled said:

I admit I didn't understand so I asked Gemini -

I concede the commenter's point that I don't understand his comment. Explain it to me like I'm 5.

Here is what that commenter is trying to say, broken down as simply as possible:

• The Big Claim: The commenter believes that people who support Israel (Zionists) actually want people to hate Jewish people (antisemitism) because it helps them achieve their goals.

• The Global Plot: They claim that these supporters are secretly causing hatred against Jewish people all over the world—even in places like Thailand—on purpose.

• The Blame Game: They argue that whenever someone criticizes the country of Israel today, they get unfairly called antisemitic, and that this is part of the secret plan.

• The Bad Behavior: They think that when some Israeli people act badly, it isn't an accident; it is part of this master plan to push a specific political agenda and fulfill an ancient religious end-of-the-world prophecy.

In short, the comment is pushing a classic conspiracy theory. It claims that a group of people are secretly controlling global events and manufacturing hatred against themselves on purpose to make their prophecies come true.

Even some Israeli agree with you.

If the Israeli Embassy in Thailand has to issue a warning specifically to its own citizens about their behaviour, that is certainly noteworthy – and it inevitably raises the question of what some Israeli tourists are apparently getting up to over there. Well, the truth is they act like real as...............s.

What makes it particularly remarkable is that, when it comes to Israel and its citizens, one could almost get the impression that the blame is always someone else’s. Criticism? Antisemitism. Protests? Antisemitism. Consequences for one’s own behaviour? Apparently that can be labelled antisemitism as well.

And, of course, there is the rather substantial political safety net provided by the United States. It seems remarkably resilient, even when Israel faces widespread international criticism over serious human rights violations in their own coountry. The UN bodies have repeatedly condemned or criticised its actions.

But never mind – that’s another story. Or, more precisely, a story one apparently has to discuss very carefully if one does not want to be immediately shoved into a convenient little box.

1 hour ago, stevenl said:

You made a stupid comparison. Israel is not getting what it deserves though, it should be isolated totally.

Coming from an :anti-Zionist" that most likely doesn't think Israel has a right to exist.

At least you're open about your extreme hostility.

Edited Saturday at 08:25 AM3 days by Jingthing

4 minutes ago, Feingeist said:

If the Israeli Embassy in Thailand has to issue a warning specifically to its own citizens about their behaviour, that is certainly noteworthy – and it inevitably raises the question of what some Israeli tourists are apparently getting up to over there. Well, the truth is they act like real as...............s.

What makes it particularly remarkable is that, when it comes to Israel and its citizens, one could almost get the impression that the blame is always someone else’s. Criticism? Antisemitism. Protests? Antisemitism. Consequences for one’s own behaviour? Apparently that can be labelled antisemitism as well.

And, of course, there is the rather substantial political safety net provided by the United States. It seems remarkably resilient, even when Israel faces widespread international criticism over serious human rights violations in their own coountry. The UN bodies have repeatedly condemned or criticised its actions.

But never mind – that’s another story. Or, more precisely, a story one apparently has to discuss very carefully if one does not want to be immediately shoved into a convenient little box.

They didn't have to.

They were pressured as Israeli is being scapegoated.

Thailand should be more clear this is about bad behavior from all foriegners.

27 minutes ago, simon43 said:

"I think you're intentionally spreading racist Jew hatred"

SpiderMike said nothing about Jews - this is about Israelis! Sure, most are probably of the Jewish faith, but that is not where the dislike is directed. It is directed towards some Israelis (of any and no faith) who treat Thais with arrogance (you've seen the bare-arse photos that I took in 7/11 - I have many more not yet posted lol!).

This is nothing about Jews....

He most certainly was talking about Israeli Jews.

Stop gaslighting.

Did you miss his disgusting adoption of the "chosen people" thing to twist that into a classic racist Jew hating trope.

Edited Saturday at 08:29 AM3 days by Jingthing

Thailand should ban all Israelis from entering the country. They cause a lot of problems, not only in Thailand. Indonesia, Malaysia and the Maldives have already banned all Israelis from entering the country.

1 minute ago, AloisAmrein said:

Thailand should ban all Israelis from entering the country. They cause a lot of problems, not only in Thailand. Indonesia, Malaysia and the Maldives have already banned all Israelis from entering the country.

Bans mostly have nothing to do with tourist behavior but rather political non-recognition of state of Israel. Your post is extremely misleading.

I get you want them banned from Thailand.

That is never going to happen.

Thailand and Israel have excellent relations.

41 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Coming from an :anti-Zionist" that most likely doesn't think Israel has a right to exist.

At least you're open about your extreme hostility.

Strange post, since you earlier concluded I'm not an anti Zionist. Extreme hostility? Towards present Israeli actions, yes.

35 minutes ago, AloisAmrein said:

Thailand should ban all Israelis from entering the country. They cause a lot of problems, not only in Thailand. Indonesia, Malaysia and the Maldives have already banned all Israelis from entering the country.

They dont cause any trouble in Malaysia or Indo, where is the link to that?

I guess Sondhi's protests got the attention of the Israeli government. That should be the message all embassy give to their citizens.

59 minutes ago, AloisAmrein said:

Thailand should ban all Israelis from entering the country. They cause a lot of problems, not only in Thailand. Indonesia, Malaysia and the Maldives have already banned all Israelis from entering the country.

The problems involving some Israeli tourists in Thailand are a current issue, and there is evidence for individual cases. But what evidence do you have that Malaysia and Indonesia banned Israelis because they were causing trouble? Malaysia has explicitly said its ban is a decades-old foreign-policy decision because it doesn't recognise Israel. Those are two completely different things.