Koh Samui Court Revokes Brit’s Bail Over Fatal Crash

6 hours ago, MikeandDow said:

Yes he is a prime example of getting away with murder in Thailand

6 hours ago, MikeandDow said:

Yes he is a prime example of getting away with murder in Thailand

6 hours ago, MikeandDow said:

Yes he is a prime example of getting away with murder in Thailand

Perhaps manslaughter. I don’t believe a charge of murder was ever brought.

5 hours ago, nauseus said:

If you area good bike rider, then I appreciate your point. However, if the initial charges of: "reckless driving causing serious injury, driving after consuming alcohol or narcotics, driving without a license or insurance and failing to stop after the collision" (quoted from George's other post on this sad story) are valid, then, in this case, your argument is lost.

Holy cow, Nauseus. This is not rocket science. The doctor was exercising in the roadway at 9:30 at night, and it's dark. The guy just had no business whatsoever out in the road.It is immaterial that the bike driver was drunk, on drugs, had no license, or was speeding; it just makes no difference. The doctor should have known that there are people like this all over the roads in Thailand, and he should have expected that something might happen to him if he is out in the roadway at night.

Why is this so difficult to understand, and why do you have to take up for the guy?Accidents happen. The guy was a victim of wrong place, wrong time, and he should have known better.

18 minutes ago, fittobethaied said:

Holy cow, Nauseus. This is not rocket science. The doctor was exercising in the roadway at 9:30 at night, and it's dark. The guy just had no business whatsoever out in the road.It is immaterial that the bike driver was drunk, on drugs, had no license, or was speeding; it just makes no difference. The doctor should have known that there are people like this all over the roads in Thailand, and he should have expected that something might happen to him if he is out in the roadway at night.

Why is this so difficult to understand, and why do you have to take up for the guy?Accidents happen. The guy was a victim of wrong place, wrong time, and he should have known better.

Are you saying that people are not allowed to use the road there for walking or running, by law?

In any case, reckless driving always makes a difference. Or is that too difficult to understand?

Wow....

He is very lucky.

Look at those PALM TREES......!!!

Some people must pay good money to stay on Samui.

Seems he worked here, lived here and wanted to spend the rest of his life here......well, wish granted!!

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Why, after he received bail, did he not attempt to leave Thailand, immediately?

What was preventing him from just boarding a plane to any given destination?

This seems strange.

This is what I would have expected most people in his sistuation to do.

Illogical, to say the least.

Amazing.

Is this what the guy actually looks like?

He looks like one of the actors from the film Mutiny on the Bounty.

What a bum.

No doubt, his trajectory throughout life was a bit different than that of the deceased doctor.

What a shame.

I bet he will get 10 to 20 in one of the better Bangkok prisons.

21 hours ago, newbee2022 said:

Thanks, to live in stinking cells with 20 other Thai convicts for more than 20 years might be even more appropriate

In Samui prison, falang share separate cell,so 20 other falang in foot chains.

I meet a Swedish guy that spent 1 year 8 months in that cell.

13 hours ago, nauseus said:

Are you saying that people are not allowed to use the road there for walking or running, by law?

In any case, reckless driving always makes a difference. Or is that too difficult to understand?

Yes, the law of common sense!

22 hours ago, wensiensheng said:

if driving slowly enough and paying attention to the road ahead with its various obstacles including pedestrians, you could draw your vehicle to a halt and wait until the road is clear enough for you to pull out and pass a pedestrian safely.

If I understand you correctly, if you are driving your car and oncoming traffic forces you to the near side hard shoulder, then any pedestrian that does not exercise commonsense and is walking away from you, will get mown down. And that’s ok because they didn’t use commonsense.

But, in the same scenario, if the pedestrian is walking toward you and can see your car coming, they can leap to one side and save themselves…and you.

I really don’t follow your logic.

Rules of the road are there to protect people who don’t use their commonsense. They should use it, but just because they don’t, doesn’t make them fair game.

Wen, either you didn't understand my last sentence above, or you took it out of context in order to make me sound like a nutjob who is ready to kill pedestrians for simply walking in the roadway. Accidents happen, and in the event of an oncoming car coming at me and forcing me to the left shoulder, regarding of what direction the pedestrian is walking, chances are I may only have a split second to make a decision, and I may not have enough time to avoid hitting that pedestrian through no fault of my own. Why would I purposely want to kill a pedestrian just because I don't think it's smart to walk in a roadway. Also, even if the pedestrian is walking towards me, he may not have enough time to get out of the way if he sees me coming into the shoulder. These types of accidents may not be frequent, but they are certainly a possibility. I have lived in Thailand for 16 years, and I have never been dumb enough to walk on the shoulder of a roadway. Even if it was unavoidable and I needed to get from point A to point B, I would find another alternative or just stay put and suck it up. I value my life too much to let my freedom of choice put me in an early grave by making stupid decisions.

3 -4 m baht paid to right people will get him out of it ,, worth it even if the idiot is then broke and deported to broken Britain

2 hours ago, fittobethaied said:

Yes, the law of common sense!

I was wrong. You must be a lousy rider.

2 hours ago, fittobethaied said:

Wen, either you didn't understand my last sentence above, or you took it out of context in order to make me sound like a nutjob who is ready to kill pedestrians for simply walking in the roadway. Accidents happen, and in the event of an oncoming car coming at me and forcing me to the left shoulder, regarding of what direction the pedestrian is walking, chances are I may only have a split second to make a decision, and I may not have enough time to avoid hitting that pedestrian through no fault of my own. Why would I purposely want to kill a pedestrian just because I don't think it's smart to walk in a roadway. Also, even if the pedestrian is walking towards me, he may not have enough time to get out of the way if he sees me coming into the shoulder. These types of accidents may not be frequent, but they are certainly a possibility. I have lived in Thailand for 16 years, and I have never been dumb enough to walk on the shoulder of a roadway. Even if it was unavoidable and I needed to get from point A to point B, I would find another alternative or just stay put and suck it up. I value my life too much to let my freedom of choice put me in an early grave by making stupid decisions.

Probably what you meant to say wasn’t quite construed in your words then. This is what you said and it seems quite clear. You don’t mention the option of simply stopping your vehicle, although that seems the obvious split second choice to me.

“I can't count the number of times in 16 years that I have been forced to the shoulder of the road by oncoming traffic. Had there been a jogger or a streetwalker on my side of the street on the shoulder, I would have killed them.”

So far as this particular case in question, I didn’t see any oncoming traffic at all in the video, so that doesn’t seem to have been a factor.

Whether people choose to take the risk of walking on the side of the road or not, and whether facing traffic or not, is their decision. It doesn’t absolve drivers/riders from taking due care and paying attention.

On 6/9/2026 at 12:38 PM, atpeace said:

That is why runners should always run into traffic which greatly reduces the odds of being killed or injured. The roads here are excessively cambered which causes right hip issues given a year or two but better than the alternative risks. My right hip became an issue so now do much of my running on the treadmill.

right, me too. I always wonder why people are jogging on the road, because first of all there are no dedicated lanes for joggers or bicycles where you can safely do that and secondly the humidity is much too high and the air quality much too low.

5 hours ago, Ray60 said:

right, me too. I always wonder why people are jogging on the road, because first of all there are no dedicated lanes for joggers or bicycles where you can safely do that and secondly the humidity is much too high and the air quality much too low.

I do both but only into traffic. I live in a beautiful area so I like to get outside and not much traffic anyhow. I see runners all the time running roads with the traffic ( coming from behind ) in stead of against traffic and I just don't get it. I wouldn't do that in America and surely not here.