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[Jonathan Fairfield]

SICK AND TIRED OF BEING SICK AND TIRED?!  Find out what our U.S. doctors can do to help you NOW!   

 

THE NATURAL HEALING CENTERS, BANGKOK

 

Fully licensed. Prompt, Comfortable and Affordable. 

 

Tel: 094 949 9614 (Eng); 02 729 3699 (Thai).  Internet: www.thaichiro.com

 

 

 

[OmarZaid]

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[Dan5]

What is this? An advertising post?

[Krataiboy]

Fully licensed

 

Nah, they can't mean that. . . 

 

 

[dotpoom]

2 minutes ago, Krataiboy said:

Fully licensed

 

Nah, they can't mean that. . . 

 

 

I had a better solution....I just gave up the booze.

[wanderluster]

58 minutes ago, dotpoom said:

I had a better solution....I just gave up the booze.

thats scary?  that is what usually leads to the jumpers. they figure out what their/my life has become.

[atyclb]

OP should clarify that it is "chiropractic doctor" as opposed to allopathic physician. chiropractic has its uses and can indeed result in improvement but is less encompassing than allopathic.  the thai chiropractic exam is/was given in the english language and there are some non thais that passed

[thaichiro]

There should be no "quotation marks" around chiropractic doctor as we have a rigorous 6-8 year regime of studies to become a DC, or doctor of chiropractic. Then we must pass difficult U.S national exams and individual state/country exams to become licensed. In the case of Thailand there is indeed a licensure exam which is comprised of written and practical portions. The written portion is made up of 50% questions from the medical examiners, who have no motivation to make the exam easy for applicants. That is why there are only 28 licensed Doctors of Chiropractic in the whole country, and our clinic, The Natural Healing Center, has 2 of them. 

[thaichiro]

And to answer the question of being fully licensed, yes we are licensed to perform chiropractic services AND physio care as we have licensed physios on staff. The issue is that there are those in this country who are not licensed, or even properly trained, who are performing possibly dangerous back manipulations, using hammers, knees or other unsafe methods just to elicit a "crack". We wish to distance ourselves from those charlatans. 

[atyclb]

7 hours ago, thaichiro said:

There should be no "quotation marks" around chiropractic doctor as we have a rigorous 6-8 year regime of studies to become a DC, or doctor of chiropractic. Then we must pass difficult U.S national exams and individual state/country exams to become licensed. In the case of Thailand there is indeed a licensure exam which is comprised of written and practical portions. The written portion is made up of 50% questions from the medical examiners, who have no motivation to make the exam easy for applicants. That is why there are only 28 licensed Doctors of Chiropractic in the whole country, and our clinic, The Natural Healing Center, has 2 of them. 

 

it could have been quotation marks around allopathic physician as well if i were making a similar point to distinguish different branches of a field.

 

are there only 28 licensed chiros in thailand because tons of applicants take the exam but very few pass? can you link to a site that shows # that sit for exam and % that pass ?? does 6-8 years of study not include the undergraduate degree or credits?

 

an old friend said he passed the thai chiro exam but then moved to the phillipines. apparently masses (at least then) were not flocking to thailand to get chiro license.

 

theres no doubt chiropractic has helped many people that can benefit from external manipulation so i'm not knocking it.

 

the term rigorous is relative.  osteopathic and allopathic physicians also complete many years of "lots to study" plus almost always do an additional 3-5 or more years of hospital residency training. this usually includes invasive procedures, surgical procedures, and even external manipulations as in closed reductions of dislocations and fractures. it is/was normal to not sleep for 36 or more hours while training. in icu's you need to continually monitor a magnitude of test results and internal pressure measurements and adjust treatment accordingly while knowing what additional studies to order or repeat, all this while admitting new patients and continually doing procedures such as arterial lines, central venous lines, intracardiac catheters, lumbar puncture, endotracheal tubes, order and follow up on ventilator settings, follow abg's, etc etc in a daunting process that can be both fascinating and nerve wracking. Thus i would again say rigorous is a relative term, and i have not even elaborated on what surgeons must go through during their training. yes i am aware of diagnostic radiology chiro residency and a rehab residency but because laws do not allow chiros to do invasive/surgical procedures apparently they just observe (correct me if i am wrong)

 

Edited September 11, 2017 by atyclb

[atyclb]

interesting the term "SICK AND TIRED OF BEING SICK AND TIRED?  according to a now sober friend is a common term some sober former drinkers use to say what motivated them to stop.

[bkk6060]

From my experience US Doctors are the biggest rip offs.

If this is Chiropractic, they charge for everything from stem, heat, massage chair, ice, adjustment, evaluation, etc. etc.

A simple 30 minute visit can run $1000.  Such a sad scam rip off ........

[atyclb]

17 hours ago, bkk6060 said:

From my experience US Doctors are the biggest rip offs.

If this is Chiropractic, they charge for everything from stem, heat, massage chair, ice, adjustment, evaluation, etc. etc.

A simple 30 minute visit can run $1000.  Such a sad scam rip off ........

 

i think not limited to us docs. all those things you mentioned are services and associated with costs. in thai hospitals without us docs if you get physical therapy, hot pack, us massage, traction, etc etc each has a charge and why would they not because they require manpower-womanpower and equipment cost as well as overhead,  a/c

[thaichiro]

On ‎9‎/‎11‎/‎2017 at 4:33 PM, atyclb said:

 

it could have been quotation marks around allopathic physician as well if i were making a similar point to distinguish different branches of a field.

 

are there only 28 licensed chiros in thailand because tons of applicants take the exam but very few pass? can you link to a site that shows # that sit for exam and % that pass ?? does 6-8 years of study not include the undergraduate degree or credits?

 

an old friend said he passed the thai chiro exam but then moved to the phillipines. apparently masses (at least then) were not flocking to thailand to get chiro license.

 

theres no doubt chiropractic has helped many people that can benefit from external manipulation so i'm not knocking it.

 

the term rigorous is relative.  osteopathic and allopathic physicians also complete many years of "lots to study" plus almost always do an additional 3-5 or more years of hospital residency training. this usually includes invasive procedures, surgical procedures, and even external manipulations as in closed reductions of dislocations and fractures. it is/was normal to not sleep for 36 or more hours while training. in icu's you need to continually monitor a magnitude of test results and internal pressure measurements and adjust treatment accordingly while knowing what additional studies to order or repeat, all this while admitting new patients and continually doing procedures such as arterial lines, central venous lines, intracardiac catheters, lumbar puncture, endotracheal tubes, order and follow up on ventilator settings, follow abg's, etc etc in a daunting process that can be both fascinating and nerve wracking. Thus i would again say rigorous is a relative term, and i have not even elaborated on what surgeons must go through during their training. yes i am aware of diagnostic radiology chiro residency and a rehab residency but because laws do not allow chiros to do invasive/surgical procedures apparently they just observe (correct me if i am wrong)

 

Yes, thank you for the questions. First, There are not many people taking the exam, perhaps 8-12 each year. It is a very difficult exam to pass as 1/2 of the questions are submitted by the Thai medical profession, who frankly have no love of Chiropractic.

The doctor of chiropractic degree in the U.S requires 4 years undergrad and 4 year of chiropractic study. The masters degree from Australia requires only 6 total years. 

No doubt the pathway for a medical degree is demanding. My point was that the human science credit requirements (anatomy, physiology, diagnosis, etc...) were comparable between the medical and chiropractic curriculum. Some readers may not be aware of this fact. 

[thaichiro]

On ‎9‎/‎11‎/‎2017 at 7:43 PM, bkk6060 said:

From my experience US Doctors are the biggest rip offs.

If this is Chiropractic, they charge for everything from stem, heat, massage chair, ice, adjustment, evaluation, etc. etc.

A simple 30 minute visit can run $1000.  Such a sad scam rip off ........

Sorry you have that opinion. While it is true that there are some in EVERY profession who take liberties, the VAST majority of practitioners are honest, caring, and very dedicated.

[atyclb]

24 minutes ago, thaichiro said:

Yes, thank you for the questions. First, There are not many people taking the exam, perhaps 8-12 each year. It is a very difficult exam to pass as 1/2 of the questions are submitted by the Thai medical profession, who frankly have no love of Chiropractic.

The doctor of chiropractic degree in the U.S requires 4 years undergrad and 4 year of chiropractic study. The masters degree from Australia requires only 6 total years. 

No doubt the pathway for a medical degree is demanding. My point was that the human science credit requirements (anatomy, physiology, diagnosis, etc...) were comparable between the medical and chiropractic curriculum. Some readers may not be aware of this fact. 

 

 

which osteopathic medicine and allopathic medical schools in usa and or australia will grant advanced standing for basic sciences to chiropractic graduates that enter their programs?

 

injecting esoteric basic science questions does in no way raise the standard or quality of those who pass. it seems to simply serve as a roadblock. there are likely question banks examples from the past to help understand the logic behind the correct answer.

 

the allopathic doctors can also argue "if the dc education is comparable then why can't they answer the same questions"

Edited October 2, 2017 by atyclb

[atyclb]

6 hours ago, thaichiro said:

Sorry you have that opinion. While it is true that there are some in EVERY profession who take liberties, the VAST majority of practitioners are honest, caring, and very dedicated.

 

is it possible to get a 1000 usd dc bill from1 visit??

[thaichiro]

It may be possible if x-rays, other diagnostics like surface EMG and thermography, and many therapies are done. But this is far in excess of the typical chiropractic office visit charge. And you don't have to look too far to see similar billing and more in other professions. 

I can assure you that you will never get such a charge for an office visit in our clinic!

[siam2007]

On 10/4/2017 at 11:33 AM, thaichiro said:

It may be possible if x-rays, other diagnostics like surface EMG and thermography, and many therapies are done. But this is far in excess of the typical chiropractic office visit charge. And you don't have to look too far to see similar billing and more in other professions. 

I can assure you that you will never get such a charge for an office visit in our clinic!

 so how much is a regular thermography of the upper body?

Sadly, no email on the website only phone, but I definitely want something "written" when making an inquiry