webfact Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 PM strikes deals on US trip By WASAMON AUDJARINT THE NATION President brings up massive trade imbalance with Thailand. PRIME MINISTER General Prayut Chan-o-cha yesterday visited US President Donald Trump at the White House, marking revitalised relations between Thailand and the US and the announcement of several new deals. While Thailand has focused on a Boeing investment to boost the Eastern Economic Corridor, the US looks forward to Thai investments in the gas and coal sectors, the opening of its domestic pork market and military purchases. Prayut is leading a Thai delegation including Deputy Prime Minister Somkid Jatusripitak and top-level economic officials in a three-day visit to the US to meet with Trump, other senior US officials and the business community. The two leaders and their spouses met at the Oval Office at noon on Monday (1am yesterday Thailand time). While both leaders underlined cooperation in regional security, trade and investment, Trump made clear that the US was looking to improve its trade deficit with Thailand. “It’s [Thailand’s] a great country to trade with. They make products and different things that are really very important to us, and we likewise sell to you,” Trump was quoted as saying. “I think we’re going to try and sell a little bit more to you now, make that a little bit better, if that’s possible,” the president said. Thailand ranks 11th among 16 countries on a watch list held by the Trump administration due to its significant trade surplus relative to the US. In the first half of 2017, the US trade balance with Thailand was negative US$11.45 billion (Bt382.7 billion), according to the US Census Bureau. While trade rebalancing is part of Trump’s much-vaunted America First policy, the Kingdom is certain that its “Thailand 4.0” policy is in line with the US policy. “Both of the policies target people of lower income and aim for the better wellbeing of people,” said Deputy Spokesperson Lt-General Werachon Sukondhapatipak. Prayut encouraged the US to be more open to Thai agricultural goods and facilitate Thai investors, whose $5.6 billion investment should help create more than 8,000 jobs in the US, Werachon said. Prayut and Trump also witnessed the signing of an agreement between Thailand’s PTTGC America LLC and JobsOhio on the development of areas in Belmont County, where Thai-owned petrochemical factories are located. Meanwhile, on regional issues, Prayut assured Trump that Thailand would support efforts for North Korea to engage in dialogue as well as follow UN Security Council resolutions. The US has sought likeminded partners in East and Southeast Asian regions to cope with rising tensions in the Korean peninsula. In July, US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson’s visit to Bangkok was reported by AFP as the US pressuring Thailand to ban state-run North Korean restaurants in the Kingdom as well as lessen diplomatic ties with North Korea. On the escalating crisis in Rakhine state in Myanmar, Prayut said: “Thailand and the US will cooperate for humanitarian assistance.” While giving financial assistance to alleviate the conflict, Thailand, like many Asean countries, regards the Rohingya conflict as Myanmar’s domestic issue. Prayut’s administration also recognises the Muslim minority as “Bengali”, a term used by the Myanmar government that infers that Rohingya are not citizens of that country. In Bangkok, Deputy Prime Minister and Defence Minister General Prawit Wongsuwan said Thailand had plans to purchase helicopters from the US in deals that had been derailed by the 2014 coup. But Prawit added that Prayut had not talked about military hardware purchases. Regarding the development of democracy in Thailand, Prayut assured Trump that the election date would be announced next year, adding that a general election should be held 150 days after the announcement as stipulated by the current charter. Prayut said he raised the issue of the election on his own without prompting by Trump. Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/politics/30328384 -- © Copyright The Nation 2017-10-04 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thechook Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 The Thai pork farmers aren't going to be impressed, they want prayuth to block pork coming from the U.S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tracker1 Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 Regarding the development of democracy in Thailand, Prayut assured Trump that the election date would be announced next year, adding that a general election should be held 150 days after the announcement as stipulated by the current charter. Prayut said he raised the issue of the election on his own without prompting by Trump. How will they get around this ? Change the current charter to suit one self or just another Gunna Do Election ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kotsak Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 I'll believe it when I see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get Real Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 Sounds like Trump was selling and Prayut was bying. How is that going to help Thailand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakeupplease Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 And the spin goes on, next thing we will hear little p is going to NK as a nominee of trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGareth2 Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 20 minutes ago, Get Real said: Sounds like Trump was selling and Prayut was bying. How is that going to help Thailand? just talk no action Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave67 Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 That's not striking a deal, That's a dictator being dictated to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianp0803 Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 Thailand puts huge import taxes on many products coming from the United States.American products should already be expensive and transportation cost. Why does a calculator sell for $100 in America and $300 in Thailand? Tennis shoes are at least twice as expensive in Thailand than America. Same for Guess and Calvin Klein jeans. Aren’t they already expensive? Trump May be saying that Thailand needs to reduce huge import taxes on American products or the United States will implement identical policies on Thai products. it will help Thailand by not putting import taxes on Thai products to correct trade imbalance. I think Trump will try to do same for China. Other countries will complain a lot if we have equal trade policies about import tax with them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 (edited) I'm trying to understand the pork market deal. Thailand has a thriving pork market, and the meat is reasonably priced. Open it up to US producers, they dump cheap pork on the Thai market, drive the Thais out of business, and then raise the prices. They should be concentrating on the tariff and duties imposed on US good coming into the Thai market. When I'm buying consumer products that have a 2 to 3x markup due to tariffs, that's something that needs to be addressed. Brianp0803 post above nails it. The tariffs and duties should be quid pro quo. Either Thai drops tariffs or the US implements identical tariffs. But instead - pork? It's already a saturated market. <head shake> I'm also looking at these deals and I don't see how they benefit that average citizens in either country. Just corporate and government interests, like usual. Edited October 4, 2017 by connda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowboat Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 All the things Thailand are buying and selling are commodities. Buying coal is something they buy anyway, they give more to the Donald to boast about and the Thai government gets to keep their ridiculously high tariffs. Pork may be where Thailand gives up something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardColeman Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 I thought the only deal Trump wanted was that Thailand buy more american goods and reduce the trade gap = PM is coming home with nothing other than a kick up the backside that America will make it harder for Thailand to export to them. Not exactly hero stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomJoad Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 TRUMP : America's great, isn't it? It's Yuge. And how about where you come from? I hear it's only about the size of Texas. But you've got some great golf courses over there, don't you? That's what people are saying. People are always saying that. Maybe you'd like to see ours while you're here? They're bigger. Trust me. They're huge. Believe me. And that Tiger Woods. I hear he's half Thai, isn't he? Maybe you'd like to meet him? I have him on twitter. He's a follower of mine. I'm pretty sure he voted for me, too. That's what people are saying. You should also have a look at our Constitution while you're here. It was rigged it a long time ago so that you don't even need to get the most votes to win. Yeah, it's true. It's great. No more worrying about those red shirts in the north. And it's all legal over here too. Believe me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianp0803 Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 Yes, the goal was to reduce the trade deficit. But I don’t think dumping cheap pork on the Thai market is the answer. Thai sell the cheap rice already to save a few baht. Instead of telling Thailand to buy more of certain products, just reduce excessive import tariffs. People buying American products are less likely to be poor people. Don’t force products on Thailand but also don’t make it excessively expensive either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worgeordie Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 " and military purchases.",OK can do ,but we prefer Chinese crap, do you have any cheap Submarine recovery vessels,as we are awaiting delivery of 3 Yellow Subs,and want to be prepared . regards worgeordie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardinHuaHin Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 1 hour ago, brianp0803 said: Thailand puts huge import taxes on many products coming from the United States.American products should already be expensive and transportation cost. Why does a calculator sell for $100 in America and $300 in Thailand? Tennis shoes are at least twice as expensive in Thailand than America. Same for Guess and Calvin Klein jeans. Aren’t they already expensive? Trump May be saying that Thailand needs to reduce huge import taxes on American products or the United States will implement identical policies on Thai products. it will help Thailand by not putting import taxes on Thai products to correct trade imbalance. I think Trump will try to do same for China. Other countries will complain a lot if we have equal trade policies about import tax with them You forgot to mention the same item for double the price or more with less than half the warranty or no warranty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmitch Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 27 minutes ago, yellowboat said: All the things Thailand are buying and selling are commodities. Buying coal is something they buy anyway, they give more to the Donald to boast about and the Thai government gets to keep their ridiculously high tariffs. Pork may be where Thailand gives up something. Apart from military purchases of course! No surprise there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamNoone88 Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 Good to see equal opportunities are alive and well on both sides of the table ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NextStationBangkok Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 Trump is calculating wrong. Only KFC, STARBUCKS, McDonalds will be open here. About exporting products, even Thailand will export tissues to wipe the tears in America for electing Trump! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvavin Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 A businessman vs a soldier, who wins? LOL......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgenon Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 The Chinese have been buying pork producers in the US, So maybe it is a Chinese deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanrchase Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 Is there any supprise that a relatively rich country of 300+ million people has a trade deficit with a relatively poor country of 70 million people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uffe123 Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 I voted for Trump, but I'am really disappointed that he actually met with this dictator. really loosing confidence in Trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neeray Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 Missed opportunity! I was hoping that the Thai delegation would take a trip to the coast and see what clean beaches look like. And a side trip to a recycling and garbage collection and disposal facility. Thailand could have imported this technology from USA and in the long run, boost their treasured tourism industry (oh, excuse me, according to TAT, it is already bursting at the seams). Dealing with the garbage issue in Thailand using purchased American know how could easily have balanced the trade surplus of 11.5 billion dollars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorristheRunt Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 Two clowns in the same room, the circus is in town! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorristheRunt Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 10 minutes ago, uffe123 said: I voted for Trump, but I'am really disappointed that he actually met with this dictator. really loosing confidence in Trump. I would keep that information to yourself.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulic Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 1 hour ago, connda said: I'm trying to understand the pork market deal. Thailand has a thriving pork market, and the meat is reasonably priced. Open it up to US producers, they dump cheap pork on the Thai market, drive the Thais out of business, and then raise the prices. They should be concentrating on the tariff and duties imposed on US good coming into the Thai market. When I'm buying consumer products that have a 2 to 3x markup due to tariffs, that's something that needs to be addressed. Brianp0803 post above nails it. The tariffs and duties should be quid pro quo. Either Thai drops tariffs or the US implements identical tariffs. But instead - pork? It's already a saturated market. <head shake> I'm also looking at these deals and I don't see how they benefit that average citizens in either country. Just corporate and government interests, like usual. Only parts of the pig that are not consumed in the US will be exported to Thailand. Much ado about nothing as far as I am concerned. That said I agree the Americans should focus on getting Thailand to drop tariffs on American goods to even out the trade imbalance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobobo Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 4 hours ago, tracker1 said: Regarding the development of democracy in Thailand, Prayut assured Trump that the election date would be announced next year, adding that a general election should be held 150 days after the announcement as stipulated by the current charter. Prayut said he raised the issue of the election on his own without prompting by Trump. How will they get around this ? Change the current charter to suit one self or just another Gunna Do Election ! Probably Trump forgot (or never knew???) that Prayut hadn't been democratically elected to his post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
over it Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 30 minutes ago, wvavin said: A businessman vs a soldier, who wins? LOL......... The businessman. Henry Ford sold products to both sides in WW2, and lived to tell about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamahele Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 I hope the PM got everything in writing from the Pres.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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