webfact Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Political ban ‘here to stay’ By THE NATION File photo: Deputy Prime Minister and Defence Minister General Prawit Wongsuwan WISSANU URGES PATIENCE AHEAD OF ROYAL |CREMATION AS POLITICIANS EXPRESS WORRY THE BAN on political activities will continue despite the promulgation of the political party organic law, the government and the National Council for Peace and Order (NCPO) have insisted. “The ban will not be lifted unless the organic laws are finished. And we don’t know when they will be or when the election will be held. There is still time,” Deputy Prime Minister and Defence Minister General Prawit Wongsuwan said yesterday. Four organic laws regarding the Election Commission, political parties, MPs and the Senate need to be completed to pave the way for the next election. The first two laws are already in effect but the other two are still being drafted. Deputy Prime Minister Wissanu Krea-ngam asked political parties to be “patient” and wait until the Royal Cremation Ceremony ends before the NCPO can consider removing the ban. The Royal Cremation for His Majesty the late King Bhumibol Adulyadej is scheduled for October 25 to 29. Wissanu said the junta understood that there were deadlines that political parties had to meet before the next election and was attempting to expedite the enactment of the relevant law to allow parties time to prepare. But he said the Election Commission might not be ready to deal with parties following the new law, which could cause a delay in lifting the ban in addition to that related to the Royal Cremation. He added that political parties had to wait a little longer, although that should not cause problems and they should be able to meet deadlines without difficulty. The NCPO and the Cabinet will meet separately today at Government House, but Wissanu said he was not sure whether the NCPO would discuss lifting the ban as it was not on the agenda. Surachai Liengboonlertchai, vice president of the National Legislative Assembly (NLA), said yesterday that the lifting of the ban could be expected soon. A ban on political activities of more than five people has been imposed since 2014 when the NCPO took power. Politicians are calling on the NCPO to loosen its grip on political activities after the Royal funeral. New requirements Samart Kaewmeechai, former Chiang Rai MP for Pheu Thai Party, said there were many things parties had to do to follow the new law, including reporting changes in their membership to the registrar within 90 days, setting up branches in provinces and recruiting new members within 180 days. But because of the existing ban on political gatherings, it was impossible for parties to carry out any activities, Samart said. He also asked whether the organic law or NCPO order was more important. The head of the Democrat Party’s legal team, Wirat Kalayasiri, said due to mechanisms introduced in the new law, including the primary voting system, political parties needed to begin election preparations as soon as possible to keep up with innovations. Parties should be allowed to perform activities as long as they did not incite people, Wirat said. Chart Thai Pattana Party director Nikorn Chamnong agreed that parties had a lot of preparations to meet the requirements of the new law and be ready for the future election. He added that the NCPO should revise its ban after the Royal Cremation ceremonies. Supachai Chaisamut, deputy secretary-general of the Bhum Jai Thai Party, said the ban needed to be lifted to avoid a negative impact on political parties that would not be able to convene and resume activities. He said the NCPO should gradually relax its grip on some issues if it was still concerned about specific problems. However, political parties should have enough freedom to work on issues addressed in the law, Supachai said. Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/politics/30328892 -- © Copyright The Nation 2017-10-10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjaak327 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 (edited) Well, in defense of the Junta, as they now supposedly postponed elections until 2019, there should be ample time for parties to meet the new requirements. Of course the ban on politics serves another purpose, and will be dragged out as long as possible. Such is the reality of the term we cannot use... Edited October 9, 2017 by sjaak327 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samui Bodoh Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 37 minutes ago, webfact said: Political ban ‘here to stay’ Why would anyone be surprised? What actions did people think have occurred which would lead to the lifting? Who out there trusts the Junta? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatOngo Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 30 minutes ago, Samui Bodoh said: Why would anyone be surprised? What actions did people think have occurred which would lead to the lifting? Who out there trusts the Junta? Rich people trust the J....reconciliation is alive and well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thechook Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 So the ban is here to stay. Well that will stop other parties running in an election. Guess the election results are in. In the one party election the junta wins a landslide with a total of 15 votes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinsdale Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 2 hours ago, webfact said: “The ban will not be lifted unless the organic laws are finished. And we don’t know when they will be or when the election will be held. Says it all really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddsaed Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 but Prayhoot told Trump next year, what it is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgdanson Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 (edited) What is an ORGANIC LAW, one which doesn't need pesticides? Edited October 10, 2017 by wgdanson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SABloke Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 2 hours ago, sjaak327 said: Well, in defense of the Junta, as they now supposedly postponed elections until 2019, there should be ample time for parties to meet the new requirements. Of course the ban on politics serves another purpose, and will be dragged out as long as possible. Such is the reality of the term we cannot use... There should be, but what about this part: "Must set up branches in regions fielding candidates and have at least 500+ members in those regions" What is a 'region'? Bangkok is one region, but there are 50 Khets in Bangkok and each Khet selects a representative in local elections, so does a party need 2,500 members in Bangkok? If you take all the sub-districts in all the provinces yuo're suddenly looking at 350+ Branches across the country with 500 members each. Maybe not that easy to set up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smutcakes Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 So essentially now the law has been promulgated the parties have strict timelines to adhere to in order to follow that law. However they will all break that law as they are not allowed to follow it. What an odd situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AhFarangJa Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 2 minutes ago, wgdanson said: What is an ORGANIC LAW, one which doesn't need pesticides? No .....it just uses Bulls**t....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AhFarangJa Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 On a serious note to answer your question wgdanson........... Organic Law The fundamental law or constitution of a particular state or nation, either written or unwritten, that defines and establishes the manner in which its government will be organized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thechook Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 1 hour ago, Samui Bodoh said: Why would anyone be surprised? What actions did people think have occurred which would lead to the lifting? Who out there trusts the Junta? There are the odd one or two on here that do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thechook Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 16 minutes ago, SABloke said: There should be, but what about this part: "Must set up branches in regions fielding candidates and have at least 500+ members in those regions" What is a 'region'? Bangkok is one region, but there are 50 Khets in Bangkok and each Khet selects a representative in local elections, so does a party need 2,500 members in Bangkok? If you take all the sub-districts in all the provinces yuo're suddenly looking at 350+ Branches across the country with 500 members each. Maybe not that easy to set up? There is a ban on a gathering of 5 or more, so if any of these parties tried to gather at least 500 members they can be arrested. It makes it totally impossible for political parties to form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowboat Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 3 hours ago, webfact said: The NCPO and the Cabinet will meet separately today at Government House, but Wissanu said he was not sure whether the NCPO would discuss lifting the ban as it was not on the agenda. All they do is talk. With all that hot air being exchanged, somebody might want to bring up the one thing that was promised to the Thai people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangkokNicky Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Thailand's goal is to become a 'developed' country within 20 years no rush then .. ROFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deez Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 5 hours ago, webfact said: attempting to expedite the enactment of the relevant law to allow parties time to prepare. 4 years to "expedite" ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupatria Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 I have no problem with a political ban, as long as it includes an unelected 'government' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 4 hours ago, smutcakes said: However they will all break that law as they are not allowed to follow it. What an odd situation. Even more odd in that the NCPO has not issued an Order or invoke Article 44 to void the timeline specified by the new law. All we have is Deputy PM Prawit's statement that the ban will not be lifted. As Chief of NCPO only Prayut can ("I can do whatever") invoke Article 44 - and he has not done so. So it would seem that even under Prayut's "rule of law" the ban would be illegal. I hope some Thai citizen at least asks NACC to review Prawit's possible abuse of power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnarth Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 11 hours ago, AhFarangJa said: On a serious note to answer your question wgdanson........... Organic Law The fundamental law or constitution of a particular state or nation, either written or unwritten, that defines and establishes the manner in which its government will be organized. ah plain English, thank you. sort of like the 10 commandments. lol so now the general is a god. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakeupplease Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 11 hours ago, wgdanson said: What is an ORGANIC LAW, one which doesn't need pesticides? One that is grown with human bullS>>> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tryasimight Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Sounds good to me...game over chaps....stop all the whining and bitching on the forum...hahahaha. Let's get back to the real issues..the price of booze , smokes and pussy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davehowden Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Looks like "Piglet" has been upstaged !! https://www.cnbc.com/2017/10/10/thailand-to-hold-election-in-november-2018-prime-minister.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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