Artisi Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 A friend, Thai female married in Thailand to an Aussie guy: He has run her into an impossible debt (hospital bills) which she in good faith signed for to get him out of hospital - he immediately left for Aust. without any intention of returning and is now asking for a divorce and refusing to assist with the debt. Any suggestions as to how best she should approach this problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Been there done that Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Pattaya perhaps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted October 16, 2017 Author Share Posted October 16, 2017 18 minutes ago, Been there done that said: Pattaya perhaps A voice of experience? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Been there done that Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 3 minutes ago, Artisi said: A voice of experience? I have never worked in Pattaya as i am an ugly person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted October 16, 2017 Author Share Posted October 16, 2017 2 hours ago, Been there done that said: I have never worked in Pattaya as i am an ugly person. ? bear in mind that self praise is no recommendation ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happylarry Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 There’s no real way to recover the debt if he is in OZ. The only thing she can do is refuse to divorce him thereby forcing him to pay or no divorce. It all depends on how desperate he is to get married again I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VocalNeal Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Also depends on whether she is legally married or village married. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happylarry Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 I think we can safely assume that it is a registered marriage, after all why else would the man be asking for a divorce.....lol HL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 While I feel sorry for your friend, she is only suffering what thousands of her countrywomen have done to thousands of western men, including myself. I can't see any way out of her predicament other than bankruptcy, but she will be feeling just like I do now, I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirmud63 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 how best to approach the problem? the same way that alot of us have had to , suck it up . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussieinphuket Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 hahahaha finally the reverse .... i could go on and on but bought a smile to my face this morning.. man - 1 up.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 she could open a massage shop in Bangkok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joecoolfrog Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Well I for one wish her the best of luck , some men are also scumbags and I dont mean just Thais. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidst01 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 speak to a solicitor in oz. If the marriage is registered in thailand then maybe she has a case to persue the divorce according the the family law act. Or approach a television station (A current affair) in the state that he comes from. Tell them what happened and provide the evidence from the hospital. Name and shame him. The tabloid tv stations love this sort of story. This is the ultimate solution to the problem... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingfox1 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 this con works both ways (99% thai against westerners) by greedy selfish careless individuals who have in a premeditated way chosen their victim for “hit n run” with total disregard to the emotional wreck they leave behind... what makes this different is the fact this lady obviously loved this guy enough to actually care about his well-being and thus pay for his Hospital treatment. There’s just something not right about that at all! How much was the Hospital bill that was worth running away from?? Advise To the Thai Girl who paid.... Sell him a divorce for x2 of Hospital bill lolSent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 (edited) What assets are available in Thailand? Particularly land assets. Were the debts secured against any assets? Any cash in the bank? What income does the Thai female have? Is she in regular employment paying income tax with payslips/documentation etc.? What assets does the Australian male have in Australia? Particularly land assets to sequester. Any Australian income/earnings to attach? Debt collectors will work down the list. Edited October 17, 2017 by Briggsy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Mountain Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Name and Shame will do i guess ... contact OZ newspapers .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docno Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Man, not a whole lot of empathy in the room... in fact, the air seems quite 'bitter'. Other women in LOS may be experts at this scam, but this person seems genuinely good hearted so I don't think we should delight in her problem. Just saying... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted October 17, 2017 Author Share Posted October 17, 2017 35 minutes ago, flyingfox1 said: this con works both ways (99% thai against westerners) by greedy selfish careless individuals who have in a premeditated way chosen their victim for “hit n run” with total disregard to the emotional wreck they leave behind... what makes this different is the fact this lady obviously loved this guy enough to actually care about his well-being and thus pay for his Hospital treatment. There’s just something not right about that at all! How much was the Hospital bill that was worth running away from?? Advise To the Thai Girl who paid.... Sell him a divorce for x2 of Hospital bill lol Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect The outstanding amount she is stuck with is B100 000 plus - he did cough up with an initial payment but leaving her to sign-off for the outstanding balance. Have already advised her, he pays the balance plus some extra or no divorce or see her in court in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted October 17, 2017 Author Share Posted October 17, 2017 48 minutes ago, Briggsy said: What assets are available in Thailand? Particularly land assets. Were the debts secured against any assets? Any cash in the bank? What income does the Thai female have? Is she in regular employment paying income tax with payslips/documentation etc.? What assets does the Australian male have in Australia? Particularly land assets to sequester. Any Australian income/earnings to attach? Debt collectors will work down the list. She has limited assets, 2 children from an earlier marriage and runs a small shop that barely supports her and the kids on a daily basis. She is unaware of what he has in Aust. it was never divulged (I would think purposely) other than a pension. My suggestion at this stage is to seek legal advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted October 17, 2017 Author Share Posted October 17, 2017 1 hour ago, steven100 said: she could open a massage shop in Bangkok. With you as first customer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnmcc6 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 1 hour ago, davidst01 said: speak to a solicitor in oz. If the marriage is registered in thailand then maybe she has a case to persue the divorce according the the family law act. Or approach a television station (A current affair) in the state that he comes from. Tell them what happened and provide the evidence from the hospital. Name and shame him. The tabloid tv stations love this sort of story. This is the ultimate solution to the problem... Great advice. Get on the net and send pictures of the guy, address if known and anything you can think of to the programing department. Pictures of the poor girl in tears. They really do love stories like this. If the money owed is serious enough, set up a go fund me. If the story gets on the box the go fund me could well be successful. Show no mercy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyJo Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Name and number for the aussie guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smotherb Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 13 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: While I feel sorry for your friend, she is only suffering what thousands of her countrywomen have done to thousands of western men, including myself. I can't see any way out of her predicament other than bankruptcy, but she will be feeling just like I do now, I suppose. Really? She deserves it because some woman took you, eh? Most of the Western men taken by Thai women were in a buyer-supplier financial relationship with the women. Being taken financially in a financial relationship, should not be a great surprise. Similarly, if that man was being paid for his services by the woman, then there may be some credible argument to her paying for his hospitalization and him refusing to repay her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaeJoMTB Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 I find it best to mind my own business in disputes between a husband and wife. When a guy helps another man's wife, it always looks like he's after a 'helping' himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Muton Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 On 10/16/2017 at 8:06 AM, Been there done that said: I have never worked in Pattaya as i am an ugly person. You protesteth too much, especially as your claim is to have "been there done that". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgarbo Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 On 10/16/2017 at 7:43 AM, Been there done that said: Pattaya perhaps More to the story. Legally married? Nature of sickness? Why did she sign? (She won't have to pay). Where is he? Why did he run? Tiring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farcanell Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 If she is out of pocket by 4000AUD, then trying to engage a lawyer in Australia to recover this, would most likely be a case of throwing good money after bad ... beside which, you (artisi) have already said she is in an impossible debt situation. if the guy is already on a means tested pension, I can’t see her having much luck. An Australian court, if it ever got that far, might find for her, but impose restitution at 25AUD a fortnight (or similar) but then, if she paid willingly, he could argue that he didn’t know that this payment was anything other than a gift, or Good Samaritan donation, as he was unable to pay himself. and as a pensioner, he may never wish to remarry, so the threat of not granting a divorce may not actually mean much, at days end... in need, he can just live in sin... and sin, after all, is a big attraction for a lot of folk coming to Thailand. as is often advised on these pages, never accumulate more than you can carry outta here in haste... this guy seems to have followed that advise, when things went pear shaped for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farcanell Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 2 hours ago, Jack Mountain said: Name and Shame will do i guess ... contact OZ newspapers .... Excellent idea.... then he can perhaps counter sue for defamation, as is the way of things in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellohello123 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 15 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: While I feel sorry for your friend, she is only suffering what thousands of her countrywomen have done to thousands of western men, including myself. I can't see any way out of her predicament other than bankruptcy, but she will be feeling just like I do now, I suppose. Couldn't have said it any better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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