brewsterbudgen Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 Worked in London all my working life, only knew one Muslim and he was a total fanatic, he didn't last long. Very aggressive despite being supposedly educated. I would suggest Muslims being friends with infidels would be not only unlikely but against their own religious rules. Which would probably mean your friends were only pretend Muslims, in the same way we're pretend Christians.Guess we just mixed in different circles back then (unlike now!). A shared love of cricket back then was an excellent bridgebuilder with the many Indian and Pakistani colleagues who I worked with. Sent from my SM-G930F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amvet Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 (edited) You have to love CNN. Watching right now and instead of covering the story of a Muslim Terrorist killing people they have spent 30 minutes criticizing Trumps reaction to the terror event never mentioning terror or Muslim. And they expect people not to notice. Edited November 2, 2017 by amvet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewsterbudgen Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 You have to love CNN. Watching right now and instead of covering the story of a Muslim Terrorist killing people they have spent 30 minutes criticizing Trumps reaction to the terror event never mentioning terror or Muslim. And they expect people not to notice. You don't think Trump's reaction is worth covering? You can always switch to Fox News if you want Trump-friendly coverage. Sent from my SM-G930F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amvet Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 4 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said: You don't think Trump's reaction is worth covering? You can always switch to Fox News if you want Trump-friendly coverage. Sent from my SM-G930F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app No I can't. I would if I could. I get TrueVisions and CNN and BBC are the only real choices. Trumps reaction is worth covering but not to the exclusion of the real story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewsterbudgen Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 No I can't. I would if I could. I get TrueVisions and CNN and BBC are the only real choices. Trumps reaction is worth covering but not to the exclusion of the real story. Yes, CNN and BBC World tend to cover the same angles. I dumped Truevisions in January and switched to PulseTV where I get CNN, Fox News, BBC World and BBC News24, RT (for the Russian perspective), Al Jazeera and Sky News. Sent from my SM-G930F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amvet Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 2 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said: Yes, CNN and BBC World tend to cover the same angles. I dumped Truevisions in January and switched to PulseTV where I get CNN, Fox News, BBC World and BBC News24, RT (for the Russian perspective), Al Jazeera and Sky News. Sent from my SM-G930F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Thanks I'll check PulseTV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaeJoMTB Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 56 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said: A shared love of cricket back then was an excellent bridgebuilder with the many Indian and Pakistani colleagues who I worked with. Indians are Hindu, totally different game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewsterbudgen Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 Indians are Hindu, totally different game.Most are, but around 15% of Indians are Muslim, and many of my Indian Muslim mates are 3rd generation.Sent from my SM-G930F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vogie Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 22 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said: Yes, CNN and BBC World tend to cover the same angles. I dumped Truevisions in January and switched to PulseTV where I get CNN, Fox News, BBC World and BBC News24, RT (for the Russian perspective), Al Jazeera and Sky News. Sent from my SM-G930F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app You've got pulse tv, well you have kept that a secret. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilostmypassword Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 (edited) 22 minutes ago, MaeJoMTB said: Indians are Hindu, totally different game. In fact, in terms of Muslim population, India is the third largest muslim nation in the world. Edited November 2, 2017 by ilostmypassword corrected from second to third Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewsterbudgen Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 You've got pulse tv, well you have kept that a secret. [emoji2]Shhh. Maybe I'm on commission...Sent from my SM-G930F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEFLKrabi Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 Have you been to Penang or KL ?Sent from my iPad using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile appMany times. Why?Sent from my iPad using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawker9000 Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 12 hours ago, ilostmypassword said: Wrong. The plan allows up to 50,000 per year, At the beginning it was 55,000 per year. And since the plan began in 1995 and it's been fully subscribed to ever since, we're talking over a million immigrants, 12 hours ago, Kevbo said: Great idea by the American cops to shoot the <deleted> in the abdomen, keep him alive but in pain. They get to interrogate him and no martyrdom. Take note UK plod .... You are correct about the Diversity Immigration Visa Program numbers. Serves me right for listening to major media broadcast news (ABC). So far it doesn't sound like he was part of a cell or other "group" of conspirators, but acting entirely alone (although I think there is a second somebody the cops or the FBI is interrogating). It's being reported that he took all his cues from ISIS material online via social media (I think it was the NYC Police Commissioner who stated for the cameras that he was following an ISIS online "how-to" almost to the letter in carrying out his planning and attack, with over a thousand ISIS videos found on his phone as well). Assuming that's true, the world would've been better off if the cops had just killed him, though the thought of his being left in great pain IS gratifying (unfortunately, the hospital is probably pumping him up with painkillers). Heaven forbid he should be sent to GITMO, but if he has to stay on U.S. soil, I think he'd make a great dummy for use in bayonet practice (do they still do that?). Maybe the nation's leading knife-makers could test out their edges on his throat. Or we could lend him to Thailand for some soi dog untreated rabies research. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 I note that some people are complaining about the media, which is completely off-topic. The same people seem to wish to post about the media not covering the story, but those posters also aren't commenting on the story. One post removed. Continue at your own peril. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katana Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 (edited) On 01/11/2017 at 11:41 PM, katana said: On 01/11/2017 at 1:21 PM, Skeptic7 said: Don't stereotype! Sayfullo (Saifullah) Saipov Apparently in standard Arabic, “Sword of Allah,” comes out as “Saifullah,” and Sayfullo is a transliterated form of that word in English. I guess on reflection when US Immigration allowed him in in 2010, there were clues as to what might happen. The New Jersey mosque Saipov went to has been under investigation since 2005. The name of the mosque is Omar mosque. You can see this on the sign of the mosque, written in English letters. However, under the English name is its name in Arabic letters: Omar Ibn Kattab Mosque. Omar Ibn Khattab was a 7th Century Jihadi warlord and contemporary of Muhammed. Edited November 3, 2017 by katana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katana Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 Australian Imam wrote to New York mayor after witnessing 'alarming rise in Islamic extremism' in the city before latest attack - but claims he was ignored Continued: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5041479/Imam-Tawhidi-warned-New-York-Mayor-Blasio-terror-attack.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilostmypassword Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 8 minutes ago, katana said: Australian Imam wrote to New York mayor after witnessing 'alarming rise in Islamic extremism' in the city before latest attack - but claims he was ignored Continued: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5041479/Imam-Tawhidi-warned-New-York-Mayor-Blasio-terror-attack.html Umar (/ˈuːmɑːr/), also spelled Omar (/ˈoʊmɑːr/; Arabic: عمر بن الخطاب , translit. ʿUmar ibn Al-Khaṭṭāb, lit. 'Umar, Son of Al-Khattab'; c. 584 CE – 3 November 644 CE), was one of the most powerful and influential Muslim caliphs in history.[6]...He was an expert Muslim jurist known for his pious and just nature, which earned him the epithet Al-Farooq ("the one who distinguishes (between right and wrong)")...According to Jewish tradition, Umar set aside the Christian ban on Jews and allowed them into Jerusalem and to worship.[9 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katana Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 Looks like you quoted the wrong post, regarding the Australian Imam. See here for Umar's war exploits in the Levant. He was in fact assassinated by a Persian slave in revenge for his war on Persia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_conquest_of_the_Levant#Conquest_under_Caliph_Umar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rvaviator Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 Many times. Why?Sent from my iPad using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile appJust that I am reflecting on your comment earlier about go and live in a Muslim country ... Well I have worked and lived in Malaysia and never had any problems with any Muslims. Sure the country have had issues between the Chines ( minority) and Muslims ... But considering the large mix of religions that you find in that country. They get on rather well as far as I can make out. Or maybe your experience in that Muslim country is different?Sent from my iPad using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEFLKrabi Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 Just that I am reflecting on your comment earlier about go and live in a Muslim country ... Well I have worked and lived in Malaysia and never had any problems with any Muslims. Sure the country have had issues between the Chines ( minority) and Muslims ... But considering the large mix of religions that you find in that country. They get on rather well as far as I can make out. Or maybe your experience in that Muslim country is different?Sent from my iPad using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile appI agree with you. I was saying that not every Muslim is a crazy terrorist, which is what many people believe. Sent from my iPad using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 5 hours ago, katana said: Australian Imam wrote to New York mayor after witnessing 'alarming rise in Islamic extremism' in the city before latest attack - but claims he was ignored Continued: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5041479/Imam-Tawhidi-warned-New-York-Mayor-Blasio-terror-attack.html Kind of irrelevant. The terrorist had been living mostly in Tampa Florida and got radicalized on the internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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