5 hours ago, keskeseksa said:

Meanwhile drones drop bombs over civilians and thousands of children are maimed and dead and nobody bats an eye

And what article where you reading when you wrote that?

 

This is about the FBI giving the local bib information on peds, who probably did a runner and ended up here playing with the local kids as back home they would be banged up. But local bib are to lazy or corrupt to do anything until the FBI showed them what was going on.

 

As for the drones, I expect as you do get to hear of the rapes and murders the likes of IS do to their own people due to censorship of the TV and web you no noting about the outside world. If you had seen the footage most in the world have seen this last month or so you would not write crape like that.

 

The fact is is the rubbish like that (IS) kill 10 x more of their own and then migrate to other countries to murder a few, there is a good reason you are not allowed to see whats going on.

 

Edited November 8, 20178 yr by wakeupplease

What RTP mean and what the headline should have been: The RTP finally listened to the fact that hundreds if not thousands of criminals are hiding in Thailand by paying through envelopes to officials and police officers to not only stay in Thailand but to continue their crimes, There is a very clear trend in all countries: If you did a crime, not least including something with small children, Thailand is a safe haven. Why is that if not for corrupt officials in immigration and in police letting this happen?

It`s good and not so good.

 

Good that western pedos are being hunted down and caught. But not so good for western expats who live in Thailand, that with so much publicity about western pedophiles we all fall under suspicion by the Thai authorities and the Thais in general as being potential pedophiles. It`s like the bad guys give us all a reputation.    

 

 

12 hours ago, isaanbanhou said:

 

 If you are serious, it would depend on where the alleged offence took place.

If you are in jest, it is in poor taste

contact department of homeland security.  They are in charge of this area as abusers are labeled now as terrorists.  Seriously.

15 hours ago, Orton Rd said:

who do you report suspected offenders to? I'd like to report my brother in law.

If you make an official report as a Farlang to the police or the authorities, they probably won`t be interest. If they do decide to investigate you will have to make a witness statement and if your allegations are considered unfounded, you could find yourself in deep trouble, especially if it`s a Thai involved.

 

Your best option is to get your Thai wife to file a report with the police and persuade any of the alleged victims to also go to the police. As a Farlang acting alone and no Thais to back up your accusations, I doubt you have any success in bringing the creep to justice. 

Australia kicked off foreigners involvement in sex crime offenses twenty odd years ago... prosecuting citizens committing offenses overseas, as well as cooperating with foreign governments...

 

stats show a huge upswing in Aussie pedos getting caught... which looks bad for Australia, but in reality, it was the beginning of the house of cards falling

 

other governments started following this lead... including America, albeit many years later... we are now starting to see the effect ( regards US numbers)

 

its not so much about the Thai government doing anything, as it is about the home countries ( first world) doing something.

 

as each country intensifies its efforts to stop these crimes, it’s own stats will go up ( abuser numbers), until most pedos are rounded up... or otherwise curtailed... then it will be another’s countries turn to appear to be the devil incarnate.

 

good news... something proactive is being done

 

bad news... third world countries still actively participate in commercial exploitation of minors ( 40% of prostitution in Thailand is underaged... or more) ... but... good news... reduce the end user population (demand) and this has to be reduced (supply and demand... jail the demanders, supply has to drop)

 

oh.... I can’t see any negative impact for non pedos... or non Thai residents... unless your a known pedo back home, so I wouldn’t get all bent out of shape about being tarnished with the same brush etc etc

7 hours ago, Orton Rd said:

20 years ago the weight of evidence needed to be higher, since then more evidence has come to light and one of his victims killed themselves, blaming the abuse. He fled the UK and moved abroad, he currently is in Thailand and we are certain his interest in (very) young children has not diminished.

Well if he is 'active' you need to act and act fast.

Actually if he is not, action to prevent anything happening is necessary. You said yourself, you were certain!

3 hours ago, farcanell said:

Australia kicked off foreigners involvement in sex crime offenses twenty odd years ago... prosecuting citizens committing offenses overseas, as well as cooperating with foreign governments...

 

stats show a huge upswing in Aussie pedos getting caught... which looks bad for Australia, but in reality, it was the beginning of the house of cards falling

 

other governments started following this lead... including America, albeit many years later... we are now starting to see the effect ( regards US numbers)

 

its not so much about the Thai government doing anything, as it is about the home countries ( first world) doing something.

 

as each country intensifies its efforts to stop these crimes, it’s own stats will go up ( abuser numbers), until most pedos are rounded up... or otherwise curtailed... then it will be another’s countries turn to appear to be the devil incarnate.

 

good news... something proactive is being done

 

bad news... third world countries still actively participate in commercial exploitation of minors ( 40% of prostitution in Thailand is underaged... or more) ... but... good news... reduce the end user population (demand) and this has to be reduced (supply and demand... jail the demanders, supply has to drop)

 

oh.... I can’t see any negative impact for non pedos... or non Thai residents... unless your a known pedo back home, so I wouldn’t get all bent out of shape about being tarnished with the same brush etc etc

That's just heresy, reduce the demand and the supply will naturally drop. 

The suppliers will just sell their wares to the locals at a lower price and less worry about police as Asian countries refuse to acknowledge child sex is rampant amongst their own. As a comparison, The demanders are responsible for a few victims. The suppliers are responsible for grooming hundreds of victims. 

 

If you really/seriously want to know the extent of pedophilia in the USA read ex-senator John DeCamp's book The Franklin Cover-UP Child Abuse, Satanism, and Murder in Nebraska. The people involved go all the way up to the White House.

 

The top people are untouchable as usual as they are protected by the FBI which is also involved.

 

Too much truth for you?     Never mind go back sleep.

15 hours ago, nausea said:

Pretty common in the UK by private individuals posing as children on the Net. It's controversial and the police aren't happy about it, but it results in convictions.  

Private individuals is a different thing, also putting a the name of a child in a chatroom and then chatting and waiting for a response is different from actively offering it. The difference from pretending to be a dealer and waiting for a buyer or approaching someone to ask if they want to buy. Its minor but changes a lot legal wise. In Holland we have bikes with trackers in it deployed by the police. But they have to lock them, they are not allowed to make it too inviting.

6 hours ago, farcanell said:

Australia kicked off foreigners involvement in sex crime offenses twenty odd years ago... prosecuting citizens committing offenses overseas, as well as cooperating with foreign governments...

 

stats show a huge upswing in Aussie pedos getting caught... which looks bad for Australia, but in reality, it was the beginning of the house of cards falling

 

other governments started following this lead... including America, albeit many years later... we are now starting to see the effect ( regards US numbers)

 

its not so much about the Thai government doing anything, as it is about the home countries ( first world) doing something.

 

as each country intensifies its efforts to stop these crimes, it’s own stats will go up ( abuser numbers), until most pedos are rounded up... or otherwise curtailed... then it will be another’s countries turn to appear to be the devil incarnate.

 

good news... something proactive is being done

 

bad news... third world countries still actively participate in commercial exploitation of minors ( 40% of prostitution in Thailand is underaged... or more) ... but... good news... reduce the end user population (demand) and this has to be reduced (supply and demand... jail the demanders, supply has to drop)

 

oh.... I can’t see any negative impact for non pedos... or non Thai residents... unless your a known pedo back home, so I wouldn’t get all bent out of shape about being tarnished with the same brush etc etc

I find 40% hard to believe especially if you talk about tourist destinations and such. I have NEVER seen it in BKK or even Pattaya. If it was 40% i would think it would be more obvious. 

On 11/8/2017 at 8:54 AM, webfact said:

 

FBI operative in Thailand John Shekowski (name transliterated from Thai)

 

If Manager Online wants to know how to spell his name they only need to look at the photo accompanying their story. Pathetic.

2 hours ago, robblok said:

I find 40% hard to believe especially if you talk about tourist destinations and such. I have NEVER seen it in BKK or even Pattaya. If it was 40% i would think it would be more obvious. 

Yer... I know, right? Big numbers.... very big numbers

 

but I don’t make up the numbers, someone else does.... that one came from Thailand’s Health System Research Institute.

 

disturbingly, even if you halve it.... it’s still a very big number.

5 hours ago, greenchair said:

That's just heresy, reduce the demand and the supply will naturally drop. 

The suppliers will just sell their wares to the locals at a lower price and less worry about police as Asian countries refuse to acknowledge child sex is rampant amongst their own. As a comparison, The demanders are responsible for a few victims. The suppliers are responsible for grooming hundreds of victims. 

Heresay? Or hope? Perhaps naivety.

 

but then.... the article does state that 13 cases were cleared up between September 7 and October 14.... four of theses were due to US warrants... that leaves nine.... these nine were Thais.

 

i don’t know... monkey see monkey do.... coincidence... dog and pony show for the press?

 

as time goes by, more countries are choosing to acknowledge the problem ( its always been there, just not acknowledged)... some countries are being forced to acknowledge the problem ( via UN intervention, WHO reports.... whatever).....  

 

this surely has to have an impact on the situation, even only just by getting our own houses in order.... this then will result in an inability to blame the dirty rotten farangs, making authorities turn inward perhaps.

 

what I do know for sure, is I can’t impact on Thai progress against this atrocity.... but I can influence Australia’s response (have voted to influence Australia’s response)... a whale is eaten mouthful by mouthful, until there is no whale remaining

45 minutes ago, farcanell said:

Yer... I know, right? Big numbers.... very big numbers

 

but I don’t make up the numbers, someone else does.... that one came from Thailand’s Health System Research Institute.

 

disturbingly, even if you halve it.... it’s still a very big number.

Now.. tell me you live in Phuket.. there is a sex trade there.. have you ever seen underage.. trust yourself don't always trust numbers because some organisations need numbers to be high for their funding.

21 hours ago, keskeseksa said:

Meanwhile drones drop bombs over civilians and thousands of children are maimed and dead and nobody bats an eye

In Thailand????

12 minutes ago, robblok said:

Now.. tell me you live in Phuket.. there is a sex trade there.. have you ever seen underage.. trust yourself don't always trust numbers because some organisations need numbers to be high for their funding.

Your right... I have had no experience with underaged sex trade in Phuket.... and very little with the sex trade in general

 

but when I do talk to the girls, I always tell them they are too young, and this has always seen a production of ID cards to convince me otherwise.

 

again your right... statistics... bloody statistics... and you may be right as to the why of it.

2 minutes ago, farcanell said:

Your right... I have had no experience with underaged sex trade in Phuket.... and very little with the sex trade in general

 

but when I do talk to the girls, I always tell them they are too young, and this has always seen a production of ID cards to convince me otherwise.

 

again your right... statistics... bloody statistics... and you may be right as to the why of it.

I don't have that much experience either but when I was in Pattaya in the past I never seen it in BKK nana area i never seen it either. If its such a high percentage it should be out more in the open hard to hide such a large percentage. If it was smaller i would believe it as there is probably an underground (not out in the open) organisation of it. But it can't be that big otherwise it would be noticed by those of us that live here. 

Yes

arrested

court

bail

appeal

appeal

 

so the perp is still on the streets on bail (in most cases involving foreigners) after 2 years

not deported

not blacklisted

 

 

2 hours ago, farcanell said:

Heresay? Or hope? Perhaps naivety.

 

but then.... the article does state that 13 cases were cleared up between September 7 and October 14.... four of theses were due to US warrants... that leaves nine.... these nine were Thais.

 

i don’t know... monkey see monkey do.... coincidence... dog and pony show for the press?

 

as time goes by, more countries are choosing to acknowledge the problem ( its always been there, just not acknowledged)... some countries are being forced to acknowledge the problem ( via UN intervention, WHO reports.... whatever).....  

 

this surely has to have an impact on the situation, even only just by getting our own houses in order.... this then will result in an inability to blame the dirty rotten farangs, making authorities turn inward perhaps.

 

what I do know for sure, is I can’t impact on Thai progress against this atrocity.... but I can influence Australia’s response (have voted to influence Australia’s response)... a whale is eaten mouthful by mouthful, until there is no whale remaining

The problem is they name and shame the foreigner s .

This is proving to be a very effective deterrent in other countries . 

In Asia or thailand "as I am familiar " there is no name and shame . 

It is kept out of the news , out of the courts , and dealt with !? Quietly ! As was the case for us in the past . The 4 foreigner will now have their name on a sex register . Their passports will have a notation that they are child sex offenders . They will be given opportunity for rehabilitation . There will heavy restrictions on contact with child children. 

What will become of the 9 thai ? 

A heavy fine perhaps ? 

2 hours ago, greenchair said:

The problem is they name and shame the foreigner s .

This is proving to be a very effective deterrent in other countries . 

In Asia or thailand "as I am familiar " there is no name and shame . 

It is kept out of the news , out of the courts , and dealt with !? Quietly ! As was the case for us in the past . The 4 foreigner will now have their name on a sex register . Their passports will have a notation that they are child sex offenders . They will be given opportunity for rehabilitation . There will heavy restrictions on contact with child children. 

What will become of the 9 thai ? 

A heavy fine perhaps ? 

Perhaps

very good point

and then there’s the issue of how they view the “shame” of it

 

but yesterday you also said, in the topic about the guy pleading ignorance re the 13 year old, that you were glad to see the Thai police doing something

 

something is better than nothing... from small things, big things will grow. 

 

For us perhaps, not enough, fast enough... all we can do is hope to see progress.

While I am glad the FBI were able to assist the Thai's arrest these men as an American I am outraged at the money that is being spent to keep these agents overseas. We simply cannot and should not be the world's policemen .

2 minutes ago, easton said:

While I am glad the FBI were able to assist the Thai's arrest these men as an American I am outraged at the money that is being spent to keep these agents overseas. We simply cannot and should not be the world's policemen .

 

As an american you should be proud your government spends money to protect children from american pedophiles.  I am sure the money that was spent is a drop in the bucket compared to what america spend on drones, missiles and bombs that kill innocent children.

1 minute ago, isaanbanhou said:

 

As an american you should be proud your government spends money to protect children from american pedophiles.  I am sure the money that was spent is a drop in the bucket compared to what america spend on drones, missiles and bombs that kill innocent children.

Look at the numbers of Americans caught, it's not worth the time or effort. 

 

I also do not support our endless wars that impinge upon other nations sovereignty.

2 minutes ago, easton said:

Look at the numbers of Americans caught, it's not worth the time or effort. 

 

Unless of course the child being molested is yours

On 08/11/2017 at 10:19 AM, Get Real said:

Good Work so far!

The Police need to be  more vigilent in Pattaya. Bar Managers hide the 15 year old girls when the Police arrive.

Bar Owners keep a stock of underage girls for the Paedophile deginerates who crawl through Soi Bua Khao and surrounding Soi. 

2 minutes ago, simtemple said:

The Police need to be  more vigilent in Pattaya. Bar Managers hide the 15 year old girls when the Police arrive.

Bar Owners keep a stock of underage girls for the Paedophile deginerates who crawl through Soi Bua Khao and surrounding Soi. 

That is terrible , name the bars and report them 

Name the bars on here , if you are so sure .

Also, what time do they open ?

9 hours ago, easton said:

Look at the numbers of Americans caught, it's not worth the time or effort. 

 American "tourists"  prefer the Philippines don't they? I think you will find a significantly higher number of US Paedophile arrests in the Philippines. The FBI are there too

The only good Paedophile is a dead Paedophile.

 

On 08/11/2017 at 3:46 PM, Krungbin said:

Good work. But I thought that the FBI 's juridiction was limited to the USA only....

They go anywhere they're invited. They went to New Zealand to apprehend Kim Dotcom.

The Thai have invited a number of International  Police forces to assist them here. 

33 minutes ago, sanemax said:

That is terrible , name the bars and report them 

Name the bars on here , if you are so sure .

Also, what time do they open ?

Thanks for the invitation but I think I'd rather photograph the offenders and refer the matter to the Police.