Fiber speed/throttling issue WITH VPN

[glockdoc]

Howdy,

 

I have 200mps fiber to the house, 3bbs crappy modem set to bridge mode, and use my Asus 52c so  I can utilize the ddrwt software to connect the router to my vpn.

 

When I turn off the vpn I get around 200mps with my wired connection and around 150-165 with wifi. So far, so good.

 

When I connect my vpn to LA I drop to 4-6 mps.  I assumed  the distance was the issue but the speed still worked for me.  Yesterday, it didn't.  I connected to Perth....same speed. Hmmmm, I thought. I connected to the Thailand server.....same speed.

 

This leads me to believe either 3bb is throttling my VPN connection or I have a router setting that is limiting my bandwith when connected. I have the qos setting turned of.  I tried both off and on, with 200 as my up and down speed, and did not notice a difference in speed.

 

My vpn has a chameleon setting on their mobile app that disguises the traffic and I do not see a huge speed drop.  However, the software on my modem does not support that and I have to use the open vpn configuration.

 

Any suggestions?

 

Thanks in advance,  JC

[muratremix]

which vpn are you using?

use singapore node for best performance.

 

if chamelon vypervpn works good, just use it on pc instead of router.

 

or

 

https://www.goldenfrog.com/vyprvpn/vpn-router

[glockdoc]

Thanks for the reply.

 

Yep, Vypr has been great.

 

When connecting the modem to the vpn so my entire network runs through the vpn it doesn't matter what node I connect to, as mentioned above.  I need to be connected to LA for work.

 

The whole point of buying the Asus was to use it to connect to the vpn instead of connecting each device. Also went with the Asus so I did not have to flash my modem. The Vypr app does not work w ddwrt. Good suggestion though.

 

So we are back to my original dilemma.  Is 3bb throttling the connection when connected to the vpn or do I have a router setting limiting my bandwith while connected.

[muratremix]

keeping LA vpn connected is very bad idea for all devices.

You should keep VPN at your computer connected to LA when you need it and leave router alone.

 

overall browsing speed will be faster if you keep no-vpn or just use singapore for ping/latency and bandwidth issues.

 

using LA vpn will add 200 ms ping whatever you do. Most big websites has singapore node so 40 ms vs 200ms is big difference.

[glockdoc]

Good info, but still doesn't address  my 2 questions.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Funny you should mention....

 

I have 3BB fiber 200/100 Mbps in BKK, and just tonight was running a series of speed tests comparing my direct ethernet 3BB connection with several desktop VPN connections, all testing via TestMy.net to their Los Angeles server, 100 MB download tests.

 

The results were: I got vastly slower speeds to TestMy.Net's Los Angeles server using my direct 3BB connection, like 10-20 Mbps down; much faster speeds using desktop apps from my VPN provider using either PPTP or Open VPN with their L.A. server in the range of 70 Mbps down; and medium slower speeds than that using a more highly encrypted Stealth Open VPN mode desktop app set to the L.A. server at about 40 Mbps down.

 

I have firmware VPN setting, but not DD-WRT, on my main ASUS router as well, and typically run PPTP VPN off my ASUS router. I didn't test that tonight, but AFAIK, my router PPTP speeds are about the same as my desktop app PPTP speeds. With Open VPN on my ASUS router, however, I'm not sure if it's as fast as on my PC. I didn't get around to re-testing Open VPN on my router tonight, since I don't usually run Open VPN via my router.

 

 

Edited November 13, 2017 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[muratremix]

All ISPs do throttle several kinds of connections. You won't get full speed of 200 mbps internationally. Not even in the United States you are guaranteed of provided speed.

[glockdoc]

I thought I would post a follow up. The problem is in the router. I have not isolated whether it is a ddrt software issue or a setting issue.

 

Connecting to LA direct using the command line ( I am a Linux user ) I get 30-50mps.  Connecting through the router maxed at 10mps.

 

The problem is semi solved.  I have speed on the desktop now, but netflix and my chromecast have some issues.

 

I will post a follow up if I get it figured out.

[MAZ3]

Any update?, I'm running 3BB and have their D-link router and I think something is throttling my international connections. Cheers

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[TallGuyJohninBKK]

I have a dual band AC ASUS wifi router that I run full-time with VPN at home that I run off a 3BB 200 Mbps fiber connection in Bangkok, and had a similar discussion here once before.

 

Basically, I found I was getting much faster speeds to the U.S. using a PPTP connection on my VPN router vs. connecting to the same city servers with an Open VPN connection, which I thought would be related to PPTP having less or potentially no encryption overhead on its data streams.

 

But one of the other tech folks here advised that the differential and slower speeds with Open VPN vs. PPTP might also be due to the clock speed on the quad-core chipset used on my ASUS router, which I believe is about 500-600 Mhz. The tech guy here advised that's kind of slow for Open VPN and that Open VPN tends to require a higher speed processor in order to fully utilize the available speeds on my connection.

 

Dunno if that's true or not, but perhaps it would be worth trying a comparison of your router VPN connections with everything else the same but one round running PPTP and the other round running Open VPN to the same city servers, and see how the results compare. And also check the clock speed of the chipset on the router you're using.

 

[speedtripler]

On 13/11/2017 at 10:20 PM, glockdoc said:

Good info, but still doesn't address  my 2 questions.

I have 140/40 normally and it is often throttled during peak hours for certain activities 

 

Sometimes until  Around midnight I think they throttle stuff like torrents

 

Ftp or vpn is much faster in the  peak hours they're throttling but in the middle of the night its faster to not use the vpn at all... (True Internet) 

[glockdoc]

TallGuy...thank you for the info!!

 

That may be just what I needed to know. I have always used open vpn. I am currently stateside, but will give it a try  on PPTP when I get back home in March. I will try to remember to post a follow up.