rooster59 Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 U.S. has begun fully implementing Trump travel ban - State Department FILE PHOTO - International travelers (reflected in a closed door) arrive on the day that U.S. President Donald Trump's limited travel ban, approved by the U.S. Supreme Court, goes into effect, at Logan Airport in Boston, Massachusetts, U.S., June 29, 2017. REUTERS/Brian Snyder/File Photo WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. State Department said it began fully implementing President Donald Trump's travel ban targeting six Muslim-majority countries on Friday, four days after the Supreme Court ruled the order could be enforced while legal appeals continue. Trump's order, which calls for "enhancing vetting capabilities" at U.S. embassies and consulates overseas, directs the departments of State and Homeland Security to restrict the entry of people from six Muslim-majority countries - Chad, Iran, Libya, Syria, Somalia and Yemen - as well as from Venezuela and North Korea. The State Department said in a statement on Friday that no visas would be revoked under the new vetting procedures. It said the restrictions were not intended to be permanent and could be lifted as "countries work with the U.S. government to ensure the safety of Americans." Trump promised as a candidate to impose "a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States" and his effort to implement a travel ban has run into repeated legal challenges since he first announced it a week after taking office. The current ban is the third version from the administration. Lower courts allowed the provisions covering North Korea and Venezuela to go into effect. Challenges continue for the six predominantly Muslim countries, charging that the ban discriminates on the basis of religion in violation of the U.S. Constitution and is not permissible under immigration laws. The Supreme Court on Monday granted the administration's request to lift two injunctions that partially blocked the ban. The decision allows the restrictions to go into force, even as legal challenges continue in lower courts. Two liberal justices dissented. -- © Copyright Reuters 2017-12-09 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Srikcir Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 7 hours ago, rooster59 said: Trump's order, which calls for "enhancing vetting capabilities" at U.S. embassies and consulates overseas, directs the departments of State and Homeland Security to restrict the entry of people from six Muslim-majority countries How is a ban part of "enhancing vetting capabilities?" If one bans people from even traveling to the US regardless of the type of Visa, it would seem NO enhancing vetting capabilities are required. Just say NO. Closing the embassies in those countries would make more sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregorio1 Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Prohibiting the 'Donald' from traveling seems like a great start to me. Containment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Coconutman Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Good.. if the ban is so bad how come most muslims have gew if any non Muslim friends. Because we are infidels. The ban does not stop any other country from taking them in.. enjoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 2 hours ago, Coconutman said: Good.. if the ban is so bad how come most muslims have gew if any non Muslim friends. Because we are infidels. The ban does not stop any other country from taking them in.. enjoy. The ban doesn't only stop refugees. The US has always been able to pick and chose who is admitted as a refugee. It also excludes all tourists, all family visits, business visas, education visas as well as those in need of medical attention. I suspect that most people from those countries wouldn't get a visa under the best of circumstances, but banning everyone is generally counterproductive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrwebb8825 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 On 12/9/2017 at 11:27 PM, Scott said: The ban doesn't only stop refugees. The US has always been able to pick and chose who is admitted as a refugee. It also excludes all tourists, all family visits, business visas, education visas as well as those in need of medical attention. I suspect that most people from those countries wouldn't get a visa under the best of circumstances, but banning everyone is generally counterproductive. Why would anybody want to go to a country that clearly doesn't want them? The US isn't the only country in the world to provide education, medical treatment, business opportunity and tourist attractions. We certainly don't need more people on welfare. As for the 'ability' to pick and choose, that's 100% subjective to the opinions of 1,000s of people who get complacent at their jobs sometimes. Unless some kind of alert pops up then many under scrutiny but not on the no-fly list (but even some of those get through) will get stamped through. The ban allows the US the time to upgrade the security checks unencumbered to better protect the country. Given the region mainly covered under the ban and the current events unfolding in that same region, I'd say this was well thought out ahead of time but got hindered by some dem judges who thought they should run the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jsinbkk Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 (edited) On 12/9/2017 at 11:27 PM, Scott said: The ban doesn't only stop refugees. The US has always been able to pick and chose who is admitted as a refugee. It also excludes all tourists, all family visits, business visas, education visas as well as those in need of medical attention. I suspect that most people from those countries wouldn't get a visa under the best of circumstances, but banning everyone is generally counterproductive. The 9/11 attack was committed by Islamic fanatics on tourist and student visas. It's impossible to know who will be the next. Best to be safe than sorry. We lose very little keeping all Arabs out Edited December 11, 2017 by Jsinbkk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 8 minutes ago, Jsinbkk said: Best to be safe than sorry. Then the US is not safe. The 9/11 attack was committed by 19 men who were citizens of Saudi Arabia, UAE, Egypt and Lebanon - countries not on the Muslim ban. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jsinbkk Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 20 minutes ago, Srikcir said: Then the US is not safe. The 9/11 attack was committed by 19 men who were citizens of Saudi Arabia, UAE, Egypt and Lebanon - countries not on the Muslim ban. Well I agree banning all would be best. Trump has decided these countries have sufficient intelligence services that they can vouch for thier visiting citizens. To be seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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