18 hours ago, hashmodha said:

God the Holiday hasn't even begun...when will this lot learn?What about the unreported?

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I fear they will never learn.

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18 hours ago, webfact said:

Road deaths down on day one of holidays as enforcement steps up

By The Nation

 

Chiang Mai reported the most accidents at 23 cases and the most casualties at 25 injuries while Si Sa Ket suffered the most fatalities with six deaths.

 

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/breakingnews/30335046

 

-- © Copyright The Nation 2017-12-29

 

It's as I suspected -- the dangerous parts are the rural areas, and Bangkok is pretty low.  Where is the source of the graphs?  

 

Interesting to see how they will arrest a driver dozing off.............just a mute point I am sure .

so this is just about half of the normal daily death toll?

17 minutes ago, wealthychef said:

 

It's as I suspected -- the dangerous parts are the rural areas, and Bangkok is pretty low.  Where is the source of the graphs?  

 

The "rural" areas are where everybody travels to at this time of year - it is a mass exodus from the industrial Centre to the rural families of Issan and the North.

Talk about drink driving what about drug driving or doesn't that happen here?

19 hours ago, Jip99 said:

Less than the daily average of 65.

 

 

24,000/365.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-38660283

 

 

YES, but add at least 10% to that, because, if they put you in the ambulance and you die on the way to the hospital, you are NOT counted and if you die, after you get to the hospital, you are also NOT counted.

Wow 42.77% Drink driving did they book them and then send them on there way.

So they could hurt kill others 

Should take the keys lock them up 

20 hours ago, Jip99 said:

Less than the daily average of 65.

 

 

24,000/365.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-38660283

 

 

A riveting article to read ( amongst many such articles ). A couple of poignant phrases which summon up the national attitude " Unless it is happening to them " and " people get excited for awhile but when all the fuss dies down . . . . . " > Thailand is not unique in this regard but top of the list bar one for fatalities. Given to believe that people who expire after being removed from the accident scene are not included in total numbers.

Hmmm.... everyday is a dangerous day on Thai roads. The Thai authorities seem unable to work this out...hmmm

3 minutes ago, Capt Rob said:

A riveting article to read ( amongst many such articles ). A couple of poignant phrases which summon up the national attitude " Unless it is happening to them " and " people get excited for awhile but when all the fuss dies down . . . . . " > Thailand is not unique in this regard but top of the list bar one for fatalities. Given to believe that people who expire after being removed from the accident scene are not included in total numbers.

No place is unique it's a tradgedy that any life is lost 

It ain't gonna change anytime soon ...... people just do not seem to care. Typical attitude of most here ..... they know it's wrong, but do it anyway.

 

7 days, what a joke. The road leading into Mancha Kiri , route 202 (?)  has been chock-a-block with traffic for 3 DAYS. 202 feeds  2062:  north-ward  . And, EVERY IDIOT,  is trying to get their destination  first! Some are obeying the road rules..............the IDIOTS exceed the SOME!

Usual watered down stats.

70 daily deaths is the average, yet 41 deaths quoted here. 

Always adjusted stats.

3 hours ago, Airbagwill said:

so this is just about half of the normal daily death toll?

This number is spot on the target of zero change.... or was that zero tolerance? yes yes.... everything change so fast! No tolerate!

 

2015/16.... day 1.... 39 lambs

2016/17... day 1..... 42 lambs

2016/17... day 1.... 41 lambs

 

same same... and the red rage continues

3 minutes ago, farcanell said:

This number is spot on the target of zero change.... or was that zero tolerance? yes yes.... everything change so fast! No tolerate!

 

2015/16.... day 1.... 39 lambs

2016/17... day 1..... 42 lambs

2016/17... day 1.... 41 lambs

 

same same... and the red rage continues

zero change for the holiday, but half of the normal daily death toll - give or take a few points.

According to the daily deaths, Thailand being now number 1,  the other 358 days are far more dangerous than these so called 7 days.......can anyone else agree ??

2 minutes ago, ginjag said:

According to the daily deaths, Thailand being now number 1,  the other 358 days are far more dangerous than these so called 7 days.......can anyone else agree ??

this has been pointed out many times. However in most countries these days the holiday seasons see a drop in death toll and other figures.

Of course when it comes to Thailand collating statistics, they just can't do it....they don't even provide for the full number of categories.

what happens later is that orgs with the know-how to monitor these stats will come up with more realistic figures

18 minutes ago, Airbagwill said:

zero change for the holiday, but half of the normal daily death toll - give or take a few points.

These are unadjusted numbers.... not dealing with “post accident” deaths..... so the 41 reported may yet rise to the average

 

the closest we will come to the truth (or benchmark) will be when the international road safety stats are presented to confirm Thailand as worlds leader, come next December. (Same report that gave us the good news re ranking a few weeks ago)

 

in 2016, police reported less that 10,000 road deaths.... an average of 27/ 28 per day.

international agencies ramped that up by 2.4:1..... if we apply that same fudge factor to this years police reporting, the number jumps from 41 to 98

 

 

 

Edited December 30, 20178 yr by farcanell

On 12/29/2017 at 3:36 PM, observer90210 said:

What to say on such tragic news ? Perhaps some may claim it is a progress as it was "only" 41 dead, thanks to the campaign and not 60 or 70 victims ?

 

RIP to the victims and their families.

Wonder who paid what to get that total ???????? Just asking

My bet is still at 500!

I don't wish to appear callous to the deaths but those that are dead don't need care (my condolences none the less). Other posters here have already commented on the carnage.The 500 injuries have to be treated in hospitals that are probably ill equipped to deal with the extra load. Emergency wards are probably already full with natural illnesses and old people suffering from the recent cold spell etc. I suppose the authorities should be thankful that Thailand does not have freezing conditions and ice on the roads to make things worse...I can't imagine what the score would be then.

19 minutes ago, TKDfella said:

I don't wish to appear callous to the deaths but those that are dead don't need care (my condolences none the less). Other posters here have already commented on the carnage.The 500 injuries have to be treated in hospitals that are probably ill equipped to deal with the extra load. Emergency wards are probably already full with natural illnesses and old people suffering from the recent cold spell etc. I suppose the authorities should be thankful that Thailand does not have freezing conditions and ice on the roads to make things worse...I can't imagine what the score would be then.

You have used the right word in your post

This is all a game with the government.

"SCORE"

1 minute ago, Russell17au said:

You have used the right word in your post

This is all a game with the government.

"SCORE"

Yep, I didn't put there by accident (pun intended, Ha!)

The new regulations, aimed at reducing the accidents on Thai roads, during the holiday seasons, highlight the fact that there is no real understanding of the overwhelming cause.
It is simply that: very few motor-cyclists know or care how to behave on roads!
For instance, it is a rule all over the world, not to overtake a vehicle on the side nearest the pavement; in Thailand this is on the vehicles left. In Thailand, overtaking on the left is “normal”, even when the vehicle is indicating to turn left.
Age limitations have no meaning in Thailand, 10 year old, seems to be the age when parents buy their young motorbikes and let them venture onto the highways.
Laws, demanding head protection are laughed at. As are the police that turn “blind eyes” to kids on bikes with no helmets.
Only when the Thai authorities take responsibility, to ensure that ALL motor-cyclists are competent, and protected will the road deaths be reduced.
I know this has all been said before, but if it is said often enough, someone in authority may spot it and act on it. 

 

Yesterday it was reported here on this forum that 41 died and 500 were injured on the roads this year compared to 42 deaths last year and our dear friendly minister was rapped with the number being lower than last year.

The figures have just come in for day 2 and guess what, day 1 figures have been reviewed and there are now 43 deaths on day 1 with over 500 injured so Mr minister how happy are you now?

Day 1 = 43 dead, over 500 injured, 477 accidents

Day 2 = 49 dead, 609 injured, 576 accidents

Total = 92 dead, 1,107 injured, 1,053 accidents

Keep up the good work minister and you will surely receive an award for keeping Thailand as number 1 killing roads in the world

Old news, how about the second day? The reports should be in by now

 

EDIT. Thanx Russell, didn't see your post prior posting

Edited December 30, 20178 yr by Hupaponics

3 minutes ago, Hupaponics said:

Old news, how about the second day? The reports should be in by now

read my post above yours and it gives day 2 figures

1 minute ago, Russell17au said:

read my post above yours and it gives day 2 figures

I did mate;) But just too late