Senior Player Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 16 minutes ago, janclaes47 said: Where does it say he used viagra? Where does it say there were unreasonable sexual demands? Where does it say there was violence? Oh, I get it it, you are just a troll. It’s been reported elsewhere in other news outlets that have given more information on her death. Though the brand of Viagra is perhaps incorrect, it was Kamagra, it’s the same aphrodisiac under a different name. it doesn’t state that the suspect made unreasonable sexual demands, but as a girl lies dead after being pushed from a balcony, it’s not too far a leap of logic how this unfortunate series of events unfolded. I’m not sure what constitutes being a troll, as there’s nothing apart from fact and supposition in Jenny’s remarks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 3 minutes ago, Chivas said: In that case guilty and bang to rights...if he wasn't in the country she wouldnt have died. Case closed I do realise that you are just being ironic/sarcastic and trying to be clever . But I do feel that this isnt the place for those kind of remarks , as it gets confusing trying to work out whether posts are genuine or sarcastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGareth2 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 the question is what the judge believes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janclaes47 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Just now, Senior Player said: It’s been reported elsewhere in other news outlets that have given more information on her death. Though the brand of Viagra is perhaps incorrect, it was Kamagra, it’s the same aphrodisiac under a different name. it doesn’t state that the suspect made unreasonable sexual demands, but as a girl lies dead after being pushed from a balcony, it’s not too far a leap of logic how this unfortunate series of events unfolded. I’m not sure what constitutes being a troll, as there’s nothing apart from fact and supposition in Jenny’s remarks. First of all, what is reported in other news outlets has nothing to do with the article discussed here. Where was it reported that she was pushed from the balcony? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4MyEgo Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 18 minutes ago, smotherb said: 4MyEgo, it was meant facetiously. It is obvious you have not followed a series of posts between me and several Brits who defended Drunken Brits getting into fights calling it young lads having a simple row or some such light banter. However, as you note, there was at least one more poster who made light of this situation; that attitude apparently exists. Lets just say, it went straight over the top and call it British banter, shall we... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam6 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Oh! Yes. He got a resettlement. The love of sex have made many falangs go back home in coffins. Travel from far away to look for sex, and jailed for life? Stupid man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4MyEgo Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 19 minutes ago, Benroon said: 'THREW' Yes, yes number 2, rush rush, mistakes happen as does shit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chivas Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 8 minutes ago, sanemax said: I do realise that you are just being ironic/sarcastic and trying to be clever . But I do feel that this isnt the place for those kind of remarks , as it gets confusing trying to work out whether posts are genuine or sarcastic Nope I was being serious......only matter of time before it comes into play nailed on with industrial rivets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Just now, Chivas said: Nope I was being serious......only matter of time before it comes into play nailed on with industrial rivets Ah OK, so you feel that if he wasnt in Thailand , then she wouldnt have died , so he deserves to get jailed for murder ? I do feel that he should be found guilty of murder, before being jailed for it , simply just being in Thailand isnt sufficient to find him guilty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornishcarlos Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 6 hours ago, shaul19 said: Only that he rented that room was there when she fall and didnt call the police is a reason to arreset him Thanks but when I posted, that part of the story hadn't come out yet :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Player Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 24 minutes ago, janclaes47 said: First of all, what is reported in other news outlets has nothing to do with the article discussed here. Where was it reported that she was pushed from the balcony? I think you need to chill out, mate. Of course it has everything to do with this discussion. If a British news outlet has decided to delve further into the circumstances of this girl’s death and one it’s own country’s citizens, then it’s obvious to the most blinkered of individuals that the British journalists have uncovered more details. There’s no need to be so obtuse. As for where was it reported that she was pushed? The suspect claims it was due to vigorous sex. You want me to draw you a picture of how thrusting from behind doesn’t involve being pushed from behind? The question isn’t so much whether she was pushed, it was whether it was intentional to cause this girl’s death and whether he gave her a helping hand to get over the modern, not low, balcony railing. Also, who are you to decide whether new information is admissible to these comments? Are you part of the newly formed wing of the Stasi police? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brling Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 9 hours ago, balo said: Why will anyone defend a coward who runs away from the scene ? If he was innocent and it was an accident he would have called for help. But no he ran away, guilty in my book. It is you that usually defends Thai cowards. You would not have chimed in if it was a Thai arrested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chivas Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Its hit the Daily Mail online with messages of revulsion coming in every few seconds (over the sex trade) Two (British) people have highlighted what I said earlier in that if he abided by his visa he wouldnt have been in the country so if they can see it so clearly thai prosecutors will have no problem likewise The boy is toast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, Chivas said: Its hit the Daily Mail online with messages of revulsion coming in every few seconds (over the sex trade) Two (British) people have highlighted what I said early in that if he abided by his visa he wouldnt have been in the country so if they can see it so clearly thai prosecutors will have no problem likewise The boy is toast The Thai authorities do not take guidance from Daily mail readers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chivas Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 4 minutes ago, sanemax said: The Thai authorities do not take guidance from Daily mail readers lol whatever buddy.....you're quoting me endlessly for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hangdonger Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Unless he or his family have deep pockets then i think he screwed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4MyEgo Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Benroon said: Guilty of ? I have no idea if the guy is guilty or not as I wasn't there but panicking or cowardice are not crimes As I said before, guilty for not calling it in, i.e. he witnessed a girl fall from his balcony to her death, except he decided to go and have a few drink to release his stress, and stay away from the place he was staying at, not report the fact that someone fell to their death off of his balcony, obviously no guilt on his part you say, but under law, he is guilty of a what looks to be a crime based on his cowardice actions, as he says, he was bonking her on the balcony and she fell, well he is going to have to prove that now isn't he, or was she pushed/thrown ? Perhaps you could read up on some Thai law, in particular the Good Samaritan Law. Besides that, I believe most good citizens around the world would have called it in, no need to go downstairs if in fear of being beaten, or whatever pee weak excuse others have tried to deliver, things happen, and if the rail gave way and she fell, well that can be assessed, but as far as bonking on a balcony rail, don't believe you will find any Thai women getting up on one, as I would assume they would be afraid of heights, as most people are, especially with a stranger who wants to full-fill his fantasy, i.e. to bonk her on the balcony or maybe take it to the next level and throw her off the balcony while he is bonking her, and just walk away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrick1968 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 sex on the balcony !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumbastheycome Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 The very fact he quietly excused himself from the scenario even in the knowledge a fall from the 5th floor would likely have serious if not fatal outcome qualifies him for arrest! If whatever happened that eventuated in her fall was truely accidental then he has lesser excuse for doing a runner. The fact that he callously exited without any demonstrated concern for the woman indicates a more sinister event. Obviously she cannot provide information as to what occurred so a grand story of denial of responsibility will emerge. Denial is a universal trait, not a Thai trait. Truely accidental or not he deserves an outcome appropriate to his callous inhumane actions in the culminating event if not in the cause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyberfarang Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 7 hours ago, Gruff said: You may be completely over reacting if there is no evidence that the profession is as dangerous as you suggest. Another load of baloney. If a young women is walking alone in a street, could be day or night, in a quite lane or a busy road and a strange guy pulls over next to her in a car and offers her a lift, would you consider the woman accepting a lift from a strange guy is not as dangerous as many believe because there is little evidence to prove that this could be dangerous? So what`s the difference between a woman getting into a vehicle with a strange male and going off to a room somewhere with an unknown male? There is no need to give sources or statistics regarding the dangers involved here, as common sense explains it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Benroon said: Guilty of ? I have no idea if the guy is guilty or not as I wasn't there but panicking or cowardice are not crimes Guilty of causing death by negligence , maximum ten years jail Indecency in public Theft of phone and motorbike Visa overstay I do believe that the RTP will solve this case and find out the truth . They will give him an ultimatum , tell the truth , plead guilty (to what he did) and then get a lenient sentence or lie and go not guilty and risk getting the maximum sentence , 50 odd years in jail. Admit what he did , pay some compensation and be out in five years , lie and dont admit it and risk getting a life sentence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The manic Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 16 minutes ago, cyberfarang said: Another load of baloney. If a young women is walking alone in a street, could be day or night, in a quite lane or a busy road and a strange guy pulls over next to her in a car and offers her a lift, would you consider the woman accepting a lift from a strange guy is not as dangerous as many believe because there is little evidence to prove that this could be dangerous? So what`s the difference between a woman getting into a vehicle with a strange male and going off to a room somewhere with an unknown male? There is no need to give sources or statistics regarding the dangers involved here, as common sense explains it all. Have you ever been to Thailand? There is no comparison to the two scenarios you are describing. In Thailand the girl and the guy will have been socialising in public. She will have plenty of time to judge him. They leave publicly and then arrive at a hotel linked to his name. You have no idea what you are talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyberfarang Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 4 minutes ago, The manic said: Have you ever been to Thailand? There is no comparison to the two scenarios you are describing. In Thailand the girl and the guy will have been socialising in public. She will have plenty of time to judge him. They leave publicly and then arrive at a hotel linked to his name. You have no idea what you are talking about. As far as the judging of characters are concerned, a few prostitutes didn`t think they would come to any harm when they encountered Jack the Ripper, and the rest is history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The manic Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Chivas said: Its hit the Daily Mail online with messages of revulsion coming in every few seconds (over the sex trade) Two (British) people have highlighted what I said earlier in that if he abided by his visa he wouldnt have been in the country so if they can see it so clearly thai prosecutors will have no problem likewise The boy is toast Are the Thai newspapers full of stories about acid attacks in London, mass child abuse and grooming gangs in the UK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatwhitenorth Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 1 minute ago, The manic said: Are the Thai newspapers full of stories about acid attacks in London, mass child abuse and grooming gangs in the UK? They should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The manic Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 11 minutes ago, cyberfarang said: As far as the judging of characters as concerned, a few prostitutes didn`t think they would come to any harm when they encountered Jack the Ripper, and the rest is history. Have you ever been to Thailand except in your lurid fantasies? Jack the Ripper! Is that the extent of your knowledge of Asian Nightlife and the P2P scene? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chivas Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, The manic said: Are the Thai newspapers full of stories about acid attacks in London, mass child abuse and grooming gangs in the UK? no idea nor the point you're attempting to make.....the fella is a brit and its across all the rags now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 3 minutes ago, cyberfarang said: As far as the judging of characters are concerned, a few prostitutes didn`t think they would come to any harm when they encountered Jack the Ripper, and the rest is history. We are talking about this case in Pattaya from a few days ago, not about prostitution in London 150 years ago and not about the safety of working as a prostitute in general Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyberfarang Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 39 minutes ago, Dumbastheycome said: The very fact he quietly excused himself from the scenario even in the knowledge a fall from the 5th floor would likely have serious if not fatal outcome qualifies him for arrest! If whatever happened that eventuated in her fall was truely accidental then he has lesser excuse for doing a runner. The fact that he callously exited without any demonstrated concern for the woman indicates a more sinister event. Obviously she cannot provide information as to what occurred so a grand story of denial of responsibility will emerge. Denial is a universal trait, not a Thai trait. Truely accidental or not he deserves an outcome appropriate to his callous inhumane actions in the culminating event if not in the cause. This could be equated to drivers that are involved in hit and run incidents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 1 minute ago, cyberfarang said: This could be equated to drivers that are involved in hit and run incidents. Whether it can or can not be equated to car drivers is beside the point of the OP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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