Wanna Make Some $$$ ? Easiest Way - My Treat Only For Tv

[Oleg_Rus]

For all of unfortunate yet nice and honest ppl of Bkk.

Briefly, since last Nov 2006 on screen doors of Bangkok subway, almost every 2 minutes, there's broadcasting of advertising "Lets Go" AIS .

Which, in fact is original add for Christian Dior Limited Edition parfume (2006-7), you can check it at Dept Stores around country, C.D. website, or anywhere else.

Smartass video production team of AIS just copied almost 95% of original footage, placed own narrative and, at the end, stick LETS GO, where supposed to be the name of parfume.

The irony is - the bottle, the theme, the concept - is completely intact - fellas were so lazy, they didn't even alter a thing.

Now, 3 months non-stop running in public place (such as Bangkok subway) of one of the biggest International cosmetic manufacturer in the world add. tape being re-targeted to local company will cost lots and lots of penalties and fines.

All you have to do is just call to C.D. HQ and ask them % to assist them to represent their case in court...

And if you don't like the owner ( why not, can be, right ? ) - than you just call them free...

Happy New year!

[steveromagnino]

Given that Christian Dior is here and staff from there frequently ride the BTS/uinderground (I am told) I doubt this is news to them.

Copying ads is a common practice; not sure there would be any money to be made from doing it; for all you know the AIS agency did the CD ad in the first place, or licensed it.

GOod thinking though.

[bendix]

Ummm . .right

If it was a serious enough breach of copyright, Christian Dior would have already acted. If they havent acted two possibilities spring to mind. Firstly they don't care and secondly the footage in question is generic stock footage which can be bought from creative houses and used by different ad campaigns.

[Phil Conners]

Big deal.

[Oleg_Rus]

Given that Christian Dior is here and staff from there frequently ride the BTS/uinderground (I am told) I doubt this is news to them.

Copying ads is a common practice; not sure there would be any money to be made from doing it; for all you know the AIS agency did the CD ad in the first place, or licensed it.

GOod thinking though.

For NZ - I give you a credit....

No, CD staff here is not what I ment. CD Head Quarteres ( another place, not Bkk)

Copying of add is very UNcommon - and leads to nice and hefty bonuses to law firms and boo-boo in some other butt

It's impossible to license whole fottage for own add. No, sir, cannot be done.

Imagine Rolex add bought for napkin add and Mercedes for ya-dom ?

Thanks for reply, though...

[Oleg_Rus]

Ummm . .right

If it was a serious enough breach of copyright, Christian Dior would have already acted. If they havent acted two possibilities spring to mind. Firstly they don't care and secondly the footage in question is generic stock footage which can be bought from creative houses and used by different ad campaigns.

Привет!

Well, it's not generic - there are images of very own original CD product. Since it's not generic - it cannot be transfered to 3rd party. No.

And for the 1st and 2nd possibilities - let me add the 3rd:

The breach is SO UNBELEIVABLE, so nobody could even COMPREHEND it !

This why I called it "IN THE FACE !" or how much they owner of add doesn't give a говна to copyright laws.

[bendix]

Oleg . . as someone who has worked in both advertising and the legal industry, i can categorically state that there is a whole subindustry involved in producing both generic stock video footage and stock still photographs which can be used by agencies and/or their clients directly and thus avoid very high creative / production costs.

It isn't copying ads . it's simply paying for and using the same materials. In such instances there is no copyright theft because a license fee is paid

I can't comment on the particulars of the case you mention because I don't know the facts, but I suspect this might have happened in this case.

[andy1308]

On the same subject has anyone noticed Tesco Lotus' new campaign to 'roll back' prices - exactly the same concept as Asda - one of their biggest rivals in the UK?

Edited January 18, 2007 by andy1308

[Oleg_Rus]

I can't comment on the particulars of the case you mention because I don't know the facts, but I suspect this might have happened in this case.

You see, this why it sucks - we talked about subject you haven't even see, but already have an opinion.

It's good that your obsession on being wise is overwhelming, but it changes subject.

What I point is - there IS a breach. There IS money to be paid as high ass penalties. There IS opportunity who know how to deal, to make some hefty $$$ and drink for my health.

btw, I also worked in video and legal industries - copied German porn and sold it Moscow back in 80s. Why legal ? I paid 20% to local police.

[Oleg_Rus]

On the same subject has anyone noticed Tesco Lotus' new campaign to 'roll back' prices - exactly the same concept as Asda - one of their biggest rivals in the UK?

Hey, Andy!

How about open special topic dedicated copyright infrigements ?

I mean - since Hitler in Thai add - they are going too far, too mo***F***n' far!

[bendix]

I can't comment on the particulars of the case you mention because I don't know the facts, but I suspect this might have happened in this case.

You see, this why it sucks - we talked about subject you haven't even see, but already have an opinion.

It's good that your obsession on being wise is overwhelming, but it changes subject.

What I point is - there IS a breach. There IS money to be paid as high ass penalties. There IS opportunity who know how to deal, to make some hefty $$$ and drink for my health.

btw, I also worked in video and legal industries - copied German porn and sold it Moscow back in 80s. Why legal ? I paid 20% to local police.

To paraphrase Rev Sydney Smith, why let good opinions be compromised by silly things such as facts?

Look Oleg, if it's so important to you, why don't you talk to Christian Dior? Im not sure of your point in posting in on ThaiVisa.

[jbowman1993]

Nobody gives a Sh#t

Jing Jing

[elkangorito]

I heard that Thailand is not a signatory of the international copyright thingy (whatever it's called). This is why you can get copies of almost anything here...& nobody does anything about it.

Then again, maybe I'm wrong.

[Oleg_Rus]

To paraphrase Rev Sydney Smith, why let good opinions be compromised by silly things such as facts?

Look Oleg, if it's so important to you, why don't you talk to Christian Dior? Im not sure of your point in posting in on ThaiVisa.

I was waiting for this question, though not from you. bendix. 20 points down on my charts, man.

who gives a s**t what some smith said ? My tuk-tuk always says "eat banana" and even him I don't care.

[bendix]

This is why you can get copies of almost anything here...& nobody does anything about it.

Not strictly true.

There are many people and companies trying to do a lot about it. International brand owning companies like the movie companies (Fox, Warner Bros, Sony, Walt Disney etc), pharmaceutical companies such as Eli Lilley and Pfizer, fashion houses such as LVMH, Levis, Diesel, <deleted>, sports manufacturers like Puma and Adidas and watch companies like Tag, Rolex, Patek Philippe etc are spending fortunes each year with law firms fighting counterfeiters - manufacturers, distributors and retailers.

It's so significant that competing companies often join together with their rivals to fight it - eg the Business Software Alliance which comprises the major software houses like Microsoft and Adobe, regularly investigate, catch and seek compensation for major licence violations.

For many of the bigger law firms in Thailand, IP enforcement is the cornerstone area on which they built more varied practices. And they're collectively making tens of millions of dollars in the process.

[bendix]

I was waiting for this question, though not from you. bendix. 20 points down on my charts, man.

who gives a s**t what some smith said ? My tuk-tuk always says "eat banana" and even him I don't care.

Ummmmm . . . right. ...ok Oleg.

[Briggsy]

What company? AIS. Yes, do them. Schadenfreude. I like!

[markuk]

i think you need to remember this is Thailand, no one cares if they wanted to go throught the long drawn out process of court cases it wouldnt be worth it, the advertisements will have moved on and it will do no one any good to get the negative publicity.

[JimsKnight]

For all of unfortunate yet nice and honest ppl of Bkk.

Briefly, since last Nov 2006 on screen doors of Bangkok subway, almost every 2 minutes, there's broadcasting of advertising "Lets Go" AIS .

Which, in fact is original add for Christian Dior Limited Edition parfume (2006-7), you can check it at Dept Stores around country, C.D. website, or anywhere else.

Smartass video production team of AIS just copied almost 95% of original footage, placed own narrative and, at the end, stick LETS GO, where supposed to be the name of parfume.

The irony is - the bottle, the theme, the concept - is completely intact - fellas were so lazy, they didn't even alter a thing.

Now, 3 months non-stop running in public place (such as Bangkok subway) of one of the biggest International cosmetic manufacturer in the world add. tape being re-targeted to local company will cost lots and lots of penalties and fines.

All you have to do is just call to C.D. HQ and ask them % to assist them to represent their case in court...

And if you don't like the owner ( why not, can be, right ? ) - than you just call them free...

Happy New year!

You don't know obviously that Thailands many companys don't give a monkeys about international companies / copyright is. To the thais if they aint a thai company then there fair game to have there product canned and stuck onto their advert and thus exploited.

This is a civil matter and if its a company in a foreign country such as SE Asia especially Thailand then theres no way that CD HQ as you put it would have the clout to drag the thais to the US courts (or wherever they are based) to prosecute. It would cause too much political fall-out and with a Military Junta overseeing the country its a definate no no.

Remember the Tsunami? A lot of the music that was being played on Thai TV at the time was off the soundtrack from the film Gladiator!

If you listen to a lot of radio adverts they cheekily use music from films and albums. But cause that TIT and Thais love Thai theres little that outside of Thailand can do about it.

A closing fact is that as long as a thai company does not copyright another thai company then its alls fair in love and war.

In fact if you want pirated films its no problem, but you try and get pirated THAI films then your sailing in dangerous waters.