Medical bills spiral for burn victims in Phi Phi tour boat fireball

[Just Weird]

10 minutes ago, Thian said:

Actually i'm surprised that the total medical bill so far is only 1 million baht....

 

You make it sound as though you're disappointed.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

22 minutes ago, Just Weird said:

No, that's a particularly bad start. 

 

They're all in the Bangkok Hospital Phuket which is not a "small town hospital" by any stretch of the imagination, neither is it in an "out of the way place", neither is it in a 3rd world country but even if your last two assertions were correct, it wouldn't matter because of the international quality of treatment that they will be getting at an internationally recognized hospital.

 

Why would it have been reported that some are in local government hospitals when they are all in the same place as the article you're commenting on confirms?

 

Let's hear the other "reasons" that you could go on about, then.

 

I stand corrected on the private vs public hospital issue. The injured crewman is at a public hospital.

 

But yes, Phuket is an out of the way place relatively speaking and Thailand operates as a third world country, despite some 2nd world veneer. But I'll go back to my original question, now more fine tuned, does Bangkok Hospital Phuket have a burn ward? Specialists in burn-induced skin grafts?  I seriously doubt it.

 

 

Edited January 28, 2018 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[quadperfect]

On 1/27/2018 at 9:56 PM, Thian said:

They already have issues by paying only 1 million baht for the victims medical bills???

 

How do they dare to ask for quality tourists from Europe? if that boat had been full of Europeans the costs would have 10-foulded already and most would have flown home already to get the best treatment overthere.

 

What a complete (bad) joke it is...why the government doesn't jump in and say that ALL medical bills will be paid by them and ALL can get the best treatment available? Plus a refund of their WHOLE holiday to Thailand which is totally ruined by this dumb accident.

 

 

I believe the travel insurance rule will now be put back in the fore front. Do you actually belive any government pays for tourists medical. 

[Thian]

5 minutes ago, quadperfect said:

I believe the travel insurance rule will now be put back in the fore front. Do you actually belive any government pays for tourists medical. 

They also did that for the victims of the bomb at the Erawan shrine...so why not this time?

[Just Weird]

11 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

I stand corrected on the private vs public hospital issue. The injured crewman is at a public hospital.

 

But yes, Phuket is an out of the way place relatively speaking and Thailand operates as a third world country, despite some 2nd world veneer. But I'll go back to my original question, now more fine tuned, does Bangkok Hospital Phuket have a burn ward? Specialists in burn-induced skin grafts?  I seriously doubt it.

As far as the reputation and qualifications of this hospital, it's medical staff and the massive medical group that it is part of is concerned, they are not in an 'out of the way place', they are in a first class hospital, the geographic location of which, as far as they are concerned, is irrelevant because they are being treated for what they need to be treated for within the bounds of the facility.  Your specific question is only relevant if the patients there need skin grafts; if there is no one there qualified to treat them they wouldn't still be there, would they?

 

Judging by the fact that the patients are in that hospital, being treated for their injuries, with no complaints that they are not being treated because there is no one qualified to do that, for you to suggest that there may be no specialists there able to treat them for those same injuries is beyond ridiculous.   Are you really suggesting, rationally, that they are not being treated as necessary?

 

There is no suggestion from anyone qualified to make that suggestion (your overtly biased opinion doesn't count) that there is any difference between the treatment BHP is giving them and any other international standard hospital in any other country.

 

 

Edited January 29, 2018 by Just Weird

[Old Croc]

10 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

I stand corrected on the private vs public hospital issue. The injured crewman is at a public hospital.

 

But yes, Phuket is an out of the way place relatively speaking and Thailand operates as a third world country, despite some 2nd world veneer. But I'll go back to my original question, now more fine tuned, does Bangkok Hospital Phuket have a burn ward? Specialists in burn-induced skin grafts?  I seriously doubt it.

 

 

Out of the way!!

Phuket is currently ranked 11th in the most visited places in the world. It is ahead of such cities as LA, Rome, Madrid, Tokyo, and Mecca. 

 

This is BHP which you have described as a small town hospital:

 

Burns victims are treated in the ICU by specialist surgeons In the same way as in the Bangkok located hospital. To give you some insight into the services this Internationally renowned hospital provides you can find a list of their clinics here:

http://www.phukethospital.com/Medical-Services.php

 

I don't know why so many ill informed posters have a need to constantly try to talk down what Phuket has and is, but it really only reflects back on yourselves.

 

[Just Weird]

3 minutes ago, Old Croc said:

Out of the way!!

Phuket is currently ranked 11th in the most visited places in the world. It is ahead of such cities as LA, Rome, Madrid, Tokyo, and Mecca. 

 

This is BHP which you have described as a small town hospital:

 

Burns victims are treated in the ICU by specialist surgeons In the same way as in the Bangkok located hospital. To give you some insight into the services this Internationally renowned hospital provides you can find a list of their clinics here:

http://www.phukethospital.com/Medical-Services.php

 

I don't know why so many ill informed posters have a need to constantly try to talk down what Phuket has and is, but it really only reflects back on yourselves.

 

Well said. 

 

What you diplomatically refer to as talking down is just Thaivisa member's Thai-bashing which some people, such as the one here enjoying trying (and failing) to knock BHP, have a propensity to do for no justifiable reason at all.

[stevenl]

22 minutes ago, quadperfect said:

I believe the travel insurance rule will now be put back in the fore front. Do you actually belive any government pays for tourists medical. 

I presume you're talking about the compulsory travel insurance for Thailand?

 

There is insurance in this case, so I fail to see why this doomed idea would be put back in the fore front due to this accident.

[toughlove]

They already have issues by paying only 1 million baht for the victims medical bills???
 
How do they dare to ask for quality tourists from Europe? if that boat had been full of Europeans the costs would have 10-foulded already and most would have flown home already to get the best treatment overthere.
 
What a complete (bad) joke it is...why the government doesn't jump in and say that ALL medical bills will be paid by them and ALL can get the best treatment available? Plus a refund of their WHOLE holiday to Thailand which is totally ruined by this dumb accident.
 
 

You do realize your in a developing country. No chance of what you suggest happening even in 1st world

[Thian]

4 minutes ago, toughlove said:

On 1/27/2018 at 9:56 PM, Thian said:

They already have issues by paying only 1 million baht for the victims medical bills???
 
How do they dare to ask for quality tourists from Europe? if that boat had been full of Europeans the costs would have 10-foulded already and most would have flown home already to get the best treatment overthere.
 
What a complete (bad) joke it is...why the government doesn't jump in and say that ALL medical bills will be paid by them and ALL can get the best treatment available? Plus a refund of their WHOLE holiday to Thailand which is totally ruined by this dumb accident.
 
 

You do realize your in a developing country. No chance of what you suggest happening even in 1st world

When my wife comes to europe she needs to show her travelinsurance to get a visa....

 

And our hospitals always help victims first before asking anything, in case they are not insured i guess the country pays the bill....This is for ANY victim arriving at any hospital, even wounded terrorists without passport get treatment in the hospital.

 

 

[toughlove]

When my wife comes to europe she needs to show her travelinsurance to get a visa....
 
And our hospitals always help victims first before asking anything, in case they are not insured i guess the country pays the bill....This is for ANY victim arriving at any hospital, even wounded terrorists without passport get treatment in the hospital.
 
 

Thailand does the same and like the West they expect payment after surgery. Nothing is free if you are out of your home country and uninsured

[Thian]

10 minutes ago, toughlove said:

15 minutes ago, Thian said:

When my wife comes to europe she needs to show her travelinsurance to get a visa....
 
And our hospitals always help victims first before asking anything, in case they are not insured i guess the country pays the bill....This is for ANY victim arriving at any hospital, even wounded terrorists without passport get treatment in the hospital.
 
 

Thailand does the same and like the West they expect payment after surgery. Nothing is free if you are out of your home country and uninsured

Thailand has never seen my travelinsurance papers....i and i have gotten loads of visa's already.

 

As i wrote, in my homecountry you will get medical  help in the hospital without any papers....we think it's our duty to help ANY person arriving at a hospital. So maybe we are above the 1st world with that? 

 

I have never ever heard of people getting refused medicare at our hospital....even refugee's get all the medicare they need....for free that is...we are not the USA but W-Europe.

[Just Weird]

33 minutes ago, Thian said:

And our hospitals always help victims first before asking anything, in case they are not insured i guess the country pays the bill....This is for ANY victim arriving at any hospital, even wounded terrorists without passport get treatment in the hospital.

Any victim taken in an emergency situation to hospital in Thailand will also get emergency treatment exactly as in your wonderful country.

[Just Weird]

17 minutes ago, Thian said:

As i wrote, in my homecountry you will get medical  help in the hospital without any papers....we think it's our duty to help ANY person arriving at a hospital. So maybe we are above the 1st world with that? 

"As i wrote, in my homecountry you will get medical  help in the hospital without any papers...."

As you would in Thailand.

 

"So maybe we are above the 1st world with that?"

Above 1st world?  You wish!  You're not American, or living in America, by any chance are you?

[Just Weird]

51 minutes ago, toughlove said:

On ‎1‎/‎27‎/‎2018 at 9:56 PM, Thian said:

They already have issues by paying only 1 million baht for the victims medical bills???
 
How do they dare to ask for quality tourists from Europe? if that boat had been full of Europeans the costs would have 10-foulded already and most would have flown home already to get the best treatment overthere.
 
What a complete (bad) joke it is...why the government doesn't jump in and say that ALL medical bills will be paid by them and ALL can get the best treatment available? Plus a refund of their WHOLE holiday to Thailand which is totally ruined by this dumb accident.
 
 

You do realize your in a developing country. No chance of what you suggest happening even in 1st world

I don't think he is actually in Thailand, he's one of those who like to bash Thailand from offshore!

[Thian]

10 minutes ago, Just Weird said:

You're not American, or living in America, by any chance are you?

I just wrote that i'm from W-Europe....do you know where that is or do i have to show it on the map? And i'm in BKK FYI.

[Just Weird]

10 minutes ago, Thian said:

I just wrote that i'm from W-Europe....do you know where that is or do i have to show it on the map? And i'm in BKK FYI.

"When my wife comes to Europe..."

That suggests very strongly that you are in Europe.

 

"i have gotten.."

That suggests very strongly that you are a Yank.

Edited January 29, 2018 by Just Weird

[Thian]

Just now, Just Weird said:

"When my wife comes to Europe..."

That suggests very strongly that you are in Europe.

Your nickname suggests........exactly...

[Just Weird]

2 minutes ago, Thian said:

Your nickname suggests........exactly...

Is that the best you could do?  Geez...

[Old Croc]

Hope this helps to alleviate the squabbling and allow the thread to get back on topic.

 

https://transferwise.com/us/blog/healthcare-system-in-the-netherlands

[NamKangMan]

On 1/29/2018 at 2:13 PM, toughlove said:

On 1/29/2018 at 2:09 PM, Thian said:

When my wife comes to europe she needs to show her travelinsurance to get a visa....
 
And our hospitals always help victims first before asking anything, in case they are not insured i guess the country pays the bill....This is for ANY victim arriving at any hospital, even wounded terrorists without passport get treatment in the hospital.
 
 

Thailand does the same and like the West they expect payment after surgery. Nothing is free if you are out of your home country and uninsured

What if you are unconscious, but insured?  How can you arrange payment?  You can't, so you are dead. 

 

 

[stevenl]

6 minutes ago, NamKangMan said:

What if you are unconscious, but insured?  How can you arrange payment?  You can't, so you are dead. 

 

 

The post you're responding to says 'payment expected after surgery'.

[Thian]

41 minutes ago, NamKangMan said:

What if you are unconscious, but insured?  How can you arrange payment?  You can't, so you are dead. 

 

 

I asked my extended travelinsurance many times for a card that i can put in my wallet which shows their number and my detais. But they won't give me that....i will ask them again since i think that's important to have, i drive motobike in BKK daily.