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Britain, EU schedule week of Brexit talks, eye future

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Britain, EU schedule week of Brexit talks, eye future

By Jan Strupczewski and Alastair Macdonald

 

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Britain's Secretary of State for Exiting the European Union David Davis (L) and European Union's chief Brexit negotiator Michel Barnier wait in a press room at the EC headquarters in Brussels, Belgium December 8, 2017. REUTERS/Yves Herman

 

BRUSSELS (Reuters) - British and European Union negotiators will spend all next week in talks on Brexit, culminating in their first formal discussion of what their future relationship will look like after Britain has left the EU.

 

A schedule posted by EU chief negotiator Michel Barnier on Twitter on Friday confirmed he will meet his opposite number, Brexit Secretary David Davis, in London on Monday for the first time since EU leaders gave him instructions to agree a post-Brexit transition to ease Britain's departure.

 

After interim accords in December on key parts of the divorce terms, EU leaders agreed to launch talks on the transition and the future relationship.

 

EU officials expect a faster pace to negotiations compared to the roughly monthly rounds of talks lasting 2-3 days each time that was the norm last year. Both sides hope to conclude a deal on a transition in time for EU leaders to endorse it at a Brussels summit on March 22-23.

 

Though not legally binding unless and until it forms part of an overall withdrawal treaty, leaders hope a transition deal can calm nerves among investors.

 

Negotiating teams will hold the first technical talks in Brussels from Tuesday to Thursday on what a transition may look like, notably which courts might enforce the treaty and further discussions on avoiding a disruptive "hard" border with Ireland.

 

On Friday, Barnier and Davis's top officials, Sabine Weyand and Oliver Robbins, will meet in Brussels to wrap up progress made during the week.

 

The British side will also offer an "update on the future relationship", according to Barnier.

 

A British official said they would not reveal details of trade proposals; Prime Minister Theresa May has caused some frustration in Brussels by failing to do that so far, although she is expected to lay out her trade ideas in the coming weeks.

 

Rather, the British official said, Friday's session would focus on areas where London has already declared its preferred outcomes, such as a close relationship in security matters and a "customs partnership".

 

TRANSITION DEAL

 

Declared positions on both sides suggest little room for dispute, although May has rejected an EU demand that EU citizens who take up residence in Britain even after Brexit, but before the end of the transition, should enjoy the same lifetime rights which London agreed to grant to those who arrive before Brexit.

 

That has raised the prospect of delay, but May insisted on Friday that the transition deal would be done within seven weeks -- in time for the March EU summit.

 

The EU has offered Britain a status quo transition until the end of 2020 after Brexit. But there is disagreement inside May's Conservative Party over the citizens' rights issue and the scope of European Court of Justice jurisdiction during the transition.

 

Of more concern to some in Brussels is the continued lack of clarity on how Britain sees a free trade deal working.

 

EU leaders want to be able to agree instructions for their negotiators when they meet on March 22-23 so that trade talks can start in the weeks after that. But once May has revealed her demands it will take the EU some weeks to prepare those plans.

 

If they cannot meet the deadline of the March summit, the start of trade talks could be pushed back, possibly even beyond the next formal EU summit in late June, jeopardising hopes of having an outline trade accord ready by the end of the year.

 

"We still expect to be able to have the trade guidelines for the March summit," one senior EU official said. "But Theresa May is being so discreet. If she doesn't say what she wants, we may not be able to prepare our position in time."

 

An EU diplomat involved in Brexit talks said: "It’s for them to tell us what they want. If they don't do it in a timely manner, they would be shooting themselves in the foot again."

 

 
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Angela Merkel mocks Theresa May's Brexit negotiations during behind-the-scenes meeting with journalists

"Angela Merkel has mocked Theresa May’s Brexit negotiating tactics, saying the two leaders end up going round in circles because Mrs May never says what she wants.

The German Chancellor said that whenever she asks the Prime Minister what she wants from the EU, she always replies: “Make me an offer.”

Mrs Merkel is said to have left journalists laughing “uproariously” when she gave them a behind-the-scenes insight into Brexit talks during her visit to Davos last week."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/01/29/angela-merkel-theresa-may-never-tells-wants-brexit/

 

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2 hours ago, ilostmypassword said:

Angela Merkel mocks Theresa May's Brexit negotiations during behind-the-scenes meeting with journalists

"Angela Merkel has mocked Theresa May’s Brexit negotiating tactics, saying the two leaders end up going round in circles because Mrs May never says what she wants.

The German Chancellor said that whenever she asks the Prime Minister what she wants from the EU, she always replies: “Make me an offer.”

Mrs Merkel is said to have left journalists laughing “uproariously” when she gave them a behind-the-scenes insight into Brexit talks during her visit to Davos last week."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/01/29/angela-merkel-theresa-may-never-tells-wants-brexit/

 

 

That's the problem with German humour: It doesn't translate into English. At least, I'm sure that must be the reason.....

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That's the problem with German humour: It doesn't translate into English. At least, I'm sure that must be the reason.....

 

I think most intelligent people understand that Brexit is a joke, regardless of their nationality.

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2 hours ago, gamini said:

even a soft Brexit will probably create an 8% drop in the UK economy, so why do you want a hard one?. No sensible Brit wants that! 

 

Try to keep up. The worst-case scenario forecast is 8% slower growth spread over fifteen years.

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I think most intelligent people understand that Brexit is a joke, regardless of their nationality.

 

The joke (and it's a very sour one) Is that we have allowed a completely unnecessary and authoritarian extra tier of government get such a hold over us.

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The joke (and it's a very sour one) Is that we have allowed a completely unnecessary and authoritarian extra tier of government get such a hold over us.

 

Surely the biggest laugh will be when the UK has to sign back up to the EU rules( "a completely unnecessary and authoritarian extra tier of government." ), albeit with worse conditions than before ...because 'no deal' is unthinkable and would be a disaster for the UK economy.

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What is the best case scenario forecast you can find for growth over the same period?


Reputable source only please.

 

There are no reputable sources for such a prediction. None of them can even get the six months ones right at the moment.

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4 minutes ago, Air Smiles said:

What is the best case scenario forecast you can find for growth over the same period?

 

There are no reputable sources for such a prediction. None of them can even get the six months ones right at the moment.

 

Why do you think there are only negative forecasts for growth post Brexit?

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Why do you think there are only negative forecasts for growth post Brexit?

 

There aren't.

 

But the ones that are base their model on the UK continuing to do the same amount of business with the EU, but in more trying circumstances.

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But the ones that are base their model on the UK continuing to do the same amount of business with the EU, but in more trying circumstances.

So despite more trying circumstance these models show that the UK will do the same amount of business with the EU? Unless "more trying circumstances" means conditions will be the same as before Brexit, this makes no sense. Otherwise, why would the circumstances be more trying?

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So despite more trying circumstance these models show that the UK will do the same amount of business with the EU? Unless "more trying circumstances" means conditions will be the same as before Brexit, this makes no sense. Otherwise, why would the circumstances be more trying?

 

Sorry, your post makes no sense. Try re-wording it.

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The reason British people voted to leave the corrupt fraudulent eu was immigration
...particularly muslims and eastern europeans.
Also factor in the fact that they did not want to be part of a european federation.
Google the infamous words of Jean Monnet..one of the eu founders.
The British people have wakened up..no more kalergi plan

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Just now, Grouse said:

We need a thread for serious Brexit discussion. Somebody wake me when one is started ?

All the brexit threads have 'serious discussion' inter-mingled with repetition/'crystal ball' predictions etc.

 

Depending on our POV, some are interesting - others rubbish/propaganda etc. etc. :laugh:

 

 Not to mention I think only a few sources are allowed to start threads on this sub-forum - and the 'main', on-going thread has been 'locked'.

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